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MK25toLife

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Aug 7, 2007
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NOT MY OPINION: Don't kill me, I'm just the messenger! Was having an email discussion with my friend who buys everything Mac and he broke down why he wasn't getting one. I felt the response was sincere and too thought out to waste so I've pasted it below. Thoughts?

I wasn't impressed when it was announced and I'm not impressed now. Last week's iPad marketing machine was overwhelming. I got caught up with the media hype and had my eyes set on one until I actually held the device in my hands. It is not magical. It is not revolutionary. It is a giant iPod touch. This thing is not going to change the way I do anything. I don't need it. It has far too many shortcomings to justify the price. There are so many fundamental problems with this device.

1. The LED Screen is not ideal for reading and I don't care what anyone says. The device is unusable under sunlight. I want to be able to toss this device in my bag and use it anywhere, not just indoors. The dot pitch is low. I don't want to notice distracting pixels while I'm reading. LED will never compete with E-ink or any E-ink like technology when it comes to reading. I don't want to be staring into a glowing nightlight when I'm reading in bed. I stare into enough lights in the daytime.

2. The text input is broken. Typing on this thing is awkward, inefficient and counterintuitive. You can type faster on an iPhone. Holding the iPad with two hands in both portrait and landscape mode, you have to constantly readjust and stretch out your thumbs to input each letter. Holding the device with one hand frees up the other but you're basically inputting one letter at a time with your index finger. And finally, if you can find a place to set the device, you can type more like a traditional keyboard but wait. You can't rest your palms or fingers on the virtual keyboard without accidentally registering nonsensical gibberish. Instead, you're sort of forced to awkwardly hover your fingers above the home keys and carefully input one letter at a time. All of these input methods require you to look down while you virtually type. Of course the iPad offers bluetooth and dock keyboard support but that sort of defeats the whole purpose of a monolithic device.

3. The form factor is unwieldy. Apple is stuck in it's "Industrial Period" across their entire product line with it's use of glass and metal. This thing is heavy and delicate to hold especially with one hand. You can't just toss this thing in a bag. It needs to be babied and handled gently. The screen is a smudge-magnet and the back casing is prone to scratches so of course you will add additional heft by purchasing an iCase. You would think by now Apple, with it's illustrious product design history, would have addressed and solved these fundamental issues. But no, they still continue down this path. Holding the iPad reminds me of holding the first generation iPhone which consisted of glass and aluminum. It carried substantial weight and was too heavy for a cellphone. In subsequent iterations (3G & 3GS), Apple used plastic for the back casing instead which made all the difference. It was just the right weight and felt natural in the hand.

4. Non standard 3G/AGPS. 3G/AGPS should be a standard feature across all models. It's 2010 and there is just no excuse for this. By not standardizing and enforcing 3G/AGPS, you will end up with some apps supporting it and some not.

5. No camera. It's a pain getting photos on this thing. So I'm suppose to take a picture with my iPhone or camera and then E-mail or upload it via USB/memory card to my iPad with the adapter?

I think Gizmodo summed up the iPad pretty well in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tACLK0V_VBM&feature=player_embedded

Overall, i feel the iPad is incomplete and has a lot of limitations that future software cannot fix. It's an unwieldy consumption device with a less than ideal reading display and a crippled input method. The world doesn't need another consumption device. The world needs a productive tool. A 21st century Moleskine where we can jot down notes, sketch our ideas, record and document our daily thoughts and experiences. A device you carry around with you everywhere, a LifeBook® if you will. Apple missed this opportunity and supersized last year's iPod Touch instead. While all the blind iSheep fathom over the Emperor's new iPad, iSit and iPatiently wait.
 
Good for you. Why do people really need to announce they aren't buying one? I don't understand that.

It's like when the iPhone came out. And look now. All those nay sayers and they mama own an iPhone.
 
Earth to ignorant people:

If you don't like the iPad, don't buy an iPad! :rolleyes:

Ta da! Your life just got simpler! And now that that's solved, you can go spend more time on your Pokemon and Beanie Baby forums! :D

Mark
 
You're entitled to your opinion, but just realize, given the technology available today, the ipad is not going to be perfect and live up to your vision of what it should be.

Apple is always at the forefront of technology, and I'm sure if there were better and cost efficient ways to make it better, they would do it.
 
Point dumber 2 I will strongly disagree with. Typing on this thing is super simple and very easy to use. The keyboard in landscape you can easily use two hands to type and it's larger than some net book keyboards. Your thumbs don't have to stretch very far to use the keyboard in portrait and I find myself using my fore finger and middle to type with that. Does your friend even own an iPad because it doesn't really state that he does. If he doesn't then some of those conclusions he has come up with really aren't valid.
 
Good for you. Why do people really need to announce they aren't buying one? I don't understand that.

It's like when the iPhone came out. And look now. All those nay sayers and they mama own an iPhone.

Exactly. They do it to convince themselves. Next thing you know - boom, they bought one.

Hypocrites.
 
there ARE a few issues with the ipad, none of these even make that list.
#2 is stupid, has he used one? hold in one hand, tap with the other.
 
I think it all comes down to having realistic expectations for this device. I expected it to be a device that I could use while laying in bed or sitting on the couch to surf the web and check my emails, and it is just that.

I expected it to be a device that allows me to pick it up and immediately use it without waiting for it to boot up, and it is just that.

I expected it to be a device that could be charged at night, and then used for a major part of the day without having to charge it, and it is just that.

I did not expect that I would be able to throw out my desktop or my laptop after purchasing this device, and I didn't.

I now have a choice to use whichever device suits my needs at any particular time I choose to use it, and for that I feel that my decision to purchase the Ipad was a good one for me.

I guess I could post all the things that my "so-called " friends who buy everything mac have said, but I won't waste your time. What matters to me is what I think, not what my friends think, especially since they are not paying for my Ipad!
 
no one cares like he said january called he wants his complaints back. if u get it and dont like it return it or wait for another to come out and sell ur old one and buy the new one thats what i do with my iphones
 
Can someone point me in the direction of any type of computer that has a screen bright enough to read in the sunlight?
 
The battery life on this thing kills all the noise. I wish flash gordon was on the team, and I could hook other hardware up to it via usb for data transfer, but other than that i'm :D
 
Lol @ the weight comment. Is he just ignorant of the facts?

iPhone original: 135 grams

iPhone 3g: 133 grams

iPhone 3GS: 135 grams

I actually preferred the case of the original iPhone. I bought it June 2007 and my wife uses it today. It's been naked for almost 3 years and the case still looks great. I've dropped it more than any of my last two iPhones and never had to baby it.

I expect Apple to return to a similar style soon, like the iPad. I do agree that the larger screen and added weight make the iPad more fragile. Apple's case should protect it from most falls from holding height, throw it in a cheap netbook bag when on the go. Not a big deal. Electronics are breakable? O RLY?
 
Yeah..but...

5 reasons why the iPad is great for photographers...

http://blog.digitalrev.com/2010/01/28/5-reasons-why-the-ipad-is-great-for-photographers/

5 reasons why the iPad is better than the HP slate...

http://technologizer.com/2010/04/07/five-reasons-why-the-hp-slate-doesnt-beat-the-ipad/

5 reasons iPad will succeed...

http://gopaultech.com/blog/2010/01/5-reasons-ipad-will-succee/

See? All kinds of '..5 reaons..' and a lot of why it will fail. A lot of them have the same feature listed as 'AWESOME' and 'SUCKS'...depends on what you want out of it. ;)

If you had said "my buddy questioned these 5 things...what do you think?" instead you titled your post "5 Reasons not to by the iPad (WOW)" (-5 for spelling 'buy' wrong...hey...you know the iPad has a dictionary app?). If you have caged it in a manner asking opinion we could have had a discussion...instead you trot out features that IN YOUR OPINION don't work. Then you state the iPad is 'incomplete'...why? Because Steve Jobs didn't get your input on what you wanted before he built it? :rolleyes:

Thanks for your statements...wished they had been discussable...head on over to hpshopping.com and pre-order the Slate...you'll get EXACTLY what you deserve. :cool:
 
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Just to give an opinion from someone who has actually used the device, and other "similar" devices (Kindle 2, Acer Netbook)

1. I have a K2 and I hate to break it to you, it sucks for reading at night compared to iPad. iPad's brightness can go super low so that you can barely even notice it, while with kindle you have to have a case in order to attach an unwieldy book light. Plus, the official Kindle case is garbage. It looks nice but the little hooks that hold it in are made of plastic and if they don't snap off they will eventually crack the device's plastic itself. Oh and you can see pixels even more on Kindle's screen. E-Ink does not change that. Outside Kindle wins hands down, but the overall utility of iPad beats it.

2. I have typed a ton of text on my iPad already. It is essentially like getting a new keyboard. You have to get used to it, and when you do, you can use it. While standing it is slower if you peck with one finger, but I can use my thumbs on the portrait keyboard just fine, at around the same speed as iPhone. If you have smaller hands this could be a problem though.

3. The weight is a bit annoying at first but you get used to it (IE you end up building muscle in your forearms...) The durability may be an issue, but I have been able to move it in and out of my bag (with the Apple case) without very much thought about its safety.

4. This is not even an issue. As a developer I know that supporting Wifi and 3g are the exact same. Both show up as a connection to the internet. You can determine which one you are on and limit it, but this will only be used in cases where AT&T whines about data usage.

5. As for photos, I upload them to my desktop. That way they can be backed up and I can put whatever ones I want on my iPad. A front facing camera would have been nice and useful, but a normal camera phone style one would have been way to unwieldy.
 
Overall, i feel the iPad is incomplete and has a lot of limitations that future software cannot fix. It's an unwieldy consumption device with a less than ideal reading display and a crippled input method. The world doesn't need another consumption device. The world needs a productive tool. A 21st century Moleskine where we can jot down notes, sketch our ideas, record and document our daily thoughts and experiences. A device you carry around with you everywhere, a LifeBook® if you will. Apple missed this opportunity and supersized last year's iPod Touch instead. While all the blind iSheep fathom over the Emperor's new iPad, iSit and iPatiently wait.

Hate to break it to you but I can do all of that on my iPad while you sit and wait for vaporware from Microsoft.
 
Apple missed this opportunity and supersized last year's iPod Touch instead. While all the blind iSheep fathom over the Emperor's new iPad, iSit and iPatiently wait.

I LOL'd at this.

In my head, I had visions of something so much more. Something free flowing, with customisation and individuality about it. With a folder option that fans out when you press it (like the downloads on the doc on my iMac). with easy to drag and drop widgets on the home screen. Just something 'magical'.

I mean lets face it, there's not really a lot more to this than an iPod Touch or what ever it's called. You can now read a book on a bigger screen... There should have been so much more to this.

This is the closest I could find to how I would have liked it to look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJALVQo-HyM&fmt=18 But of course without all the scroll bars and that sort of stuff, but just free flowing, and asthetically pleasing.

:cool:
 
Just to give an opinion from someone who has actually used the device, and other "similar" devices (Kindle 2, Acer Netbook)

1. I have a K2 and I hate to break it to you, it sucks for reading at night compared to iPad. iPad's brightness can go super low so that you can barely even notice it, while with kindle you have to have a case in order to attach an unwieldy book light. Plus, the official Kindle case is garbage. It looks nice but the little hooks that hold it in are made of plastic and if they don't snap off they will eventually crack the device's plastic itself. Oh and you can see pixels even more on Kindle's screen. E-Ink does not change that. Outside Kindle wins hands down, but the overall utility of iPad beats it.

I just wanted to say thanks for pointing this out. I'm amazed at the number of people complaining that you can't read the iPad screen in daylight and how you can with e-Ink yet they don't seem to mind the reverse scenario where the e-Ink display needs an external light source just like, uh, a book actually. There's always a compromise somewhere folks...
 
A ridiculous rant. The iPad, and its progeny, will eventually replace laptops for the vast majority of users. That being said, I will be waiting for the next version or two, one with a webcam and one that does not restrict its 3G usage to AT&T. You can be sure though that in the iPad you're looking at the next generation of mobile computing device. I always thought it self-defeating that the electronics industry was pushing bigger and bigger high-definition television and computer displays at the same time that it was pushing people to do more and more on a 2-inch "smartphone."
 
NOT MY OPINION: Apple missed this opportunity and supersized last year's iPod Touch instead. While all the blind iSheep fathom over the Emperor's new iPad, iSit and iPatiently wait.

I buy this, like I buy the guy who says: I have a "friend" with Erectile Dysfunction...

You own this troll(complete with reference to iSheep), because you posted it.

As trolls go, it has been repeated here endlessly for months. It contains nothing new or original.

It is just insults (iSheep? really?) by people who can't see the value in the product of people who do.

If you can't see the value why can't you just say: "it isn't for me", rather than everyone who buys one are blind sheep? It isn't possible they see something you don't??
 
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