I disliked this because renaming "Master server list" to "main server list" is not fighting systemic racism in any capacity.
I genuinely believe civilisation is in it's death throes.
I disliked this because renaming "Master server list" to "main server list" is not fighting systemic racism in any capacity.
This is the only thing I have to say and will say about this. I am 100% for abandoning the master/slave terminology due to its origins. I'm also disgusted by subreddits being named, say, "ultrawidemasterrace". Come on.I disliked this because renaming "Master server list" to "main server list" is not fighting systemic racism in any capacity.
Just wanted to comment that I don’t think the proposal was actually meant to fight racism but more to stand in solidarity just as the everyday people around the world standing in solidarity with Ukraine don’t actually think it will somehow fight Putin!I disliked this because renaming "Master server list" to "main server list" is not fighting systemic racism in any capacity.
But in solidarity to what? Some vague joining the dots between language and oppression - and a very specific, historical and particular oppression at that.Just wanted to comment that I don’t think the proposal was actually meant to fight racism but more to stand in solidarity just as the everyday people around the world standing in solidarity with Ukraine don’t actually think it will somehow fight Putin!
I think of "master" in "master list" more like "master chef" than "slave master", but otherwise fully agreed (especially since the terms are usually more confusing than useful, e.g. PATA/IDE). I think it's totally fine and well-intentioned to do this, I just think the maintainer's militancy on the issue is misplaced given that it's mostly window dressing.This is the only thing I have to say and will say about this. I am 100% for abandoning the master/slave terminology due to its origins. I'm also disgusted by subreddits being named, say, "ultrawidemasterrace". Come on.
Of course, but it's also easy to trick yourself into thinking that "signalling solidarity" is doing actual politics, thus absolving you of participating in slower, less immediately-rewarding, collective efforts in support of your ideals. You can feel like you're involved, participating, making a difference, without all the risks or possibility of failure of joining with others to try and actually accomplish anything politically. It's a release valve for political energy, one I'm as guilty of as anyone.Just wanted to comment that I don’t think the proposal was actually meant to fight racism but more to stand in solidarity just as the everyday people around the world standing in solidarity with Ukraine don’t actually think it will somehow fight Putin!
More like a guilt bypass switch.It's a release valve for political energy
@z970 What the past two years have shown is that vast swathes of society are either scientifically and morally illiterate or filter their understanding through their political persuasion first, that their memory of recent events doesn’t seem to stretch further back more than a few days and all their critical thinking is outsourced to government mouthpieces, soundbite pundits and social media trending points.
Hence my opinion - we are dying as a culture.
Problem is, most people think the good are evil and vice versa...It's now good vs evil... and people are waking up. I just hope it's not too late.
I totally agree with the reddit name. The thing is, this is not even that. This is the same as mastering a pressed CD-ROM. There is no slave branch or slave server list. That does not exist.This is the only thing I have to say and will say about this. I am 100% for abandoning the master/slave terminology due to its origins. I'm also disgusted by subreddits being named, say, "ultrawidemasterrace". Come on.
But I know better than to allow this to prevent me from enjoying life.
You never were allowed, I didn't technically talk about it. He didn't appreciate the loophole of disliking it.Remove master/slave terminology in code when possible & replace with updated language · Issue #545 · ioquake/ioq3
We started by renaming our code branches, lets keep going and change master/slave in every instance in the code when it is possible to do so and retain compatibility. When it isn't possible, we can...github.com
@alex_free Apparently now you can't talk about the change in that thread
I totally agree with the reddit name. The thing is, this is not even that. This is the same as mastering a pressed CD-ROM. There is no slave branch or slave server list. That does not exist.
I like how we can have a conversation and discuss, the ioquake3 fork dev can not handle this kind of interaction. That is all I really wanted to say withy original post.
It's still available. I just downloaded it and installed it. Sure the github links are dead, but the mac garden link is still up.The PPC Quake is all gone and deleted