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I couldn’t easily check if this was mentioned earlier in the thread because the search function isn’t working, but it sure would’ve been interesting if Apple have added The charger brick as another opt in/out thing like engraving.
Here’s the thing, Apple revolutionized mailing a product that you could start using instantly after unboxing. No charging required. Well, part of that daily usage includes charging. Now there’s an extra action required for many of us.
The removal of a charging brick is a step in the opposite direction away from that Apple magic that used to know exactly what the customer wanted or would be delighted by. For many adding a new phone to the mix, or replacing a phone with a beaten up or lost charger, not receiving a brick with a new phone is a step away from that “instant go” surprise and delight from Apple. Now, extra actions and purchases have to be enacted for the user to “become whole” again. Yeah we can all go out and buy an apple or aftermarket charger, or keep doing the work around of charging through our computer or other method, but to me it’s that intangible aspect about removing something that we would otherwise use daily that most sours Apple’s supposedly revolutionary idea.
Apple loves to give more under the guise of giving less, whether it’s headphone jacks, headphones themselves, esc keys, ports, etc.
How much more is there to strip away amongst the various devices. What’s the next pinch point of pain we are all going to feel I wonder.
Here’s the thing, Apple revolutionized mailing a product that you could start using instantly after unboxing. No charging required. Well, part of that daily usage includes charging. Now there’s an extra action required for many of us.
The removal of a charging brick is a step in the opposite direction away from that Apple magic that used to know exactly what the customer wanted or would be delighted by. For many adding a new phone to the mix, or replacing a phone with a beaten up or lost charger, not receiving a brick with a new phone is a step away from that “instant go” surprise and delight from Apple. Now, extra actions and purchases have to be enacted for the user to “become whole” again. Yeah we can all go out and buy an apple or aftermarket charger, or keep doing the work around of charging through our computer or other method, but to me it’s that intangible aspect about removing something that we would otherwise use daily that most sours Apple’s supposedly revolutionary idea.
Apple loves to give more under the guise of giving less, whether it’s headphone jacks, headphones themselves, esc keys, ports, etc.
How much more is there to strip away amongst the various devices. What’s the next pinch point of pain we are all going to feel I wonder.
Don't forget about the cable/cellular companies and the health insurance companies.
Cable companies - the only industry that makes evil Cell phone companies look angelic in comparison...
Sure they do.
I’ve Sent feedback dozens of times to them, had responses where they would investigate quality control issues, software development glitches, a hardware defect with an Apple Watch stainless steel link band, the list goes on……
That’s what a reputable company does, they take in account where they can improve and make the situation whole with a consumer who chooses to spend their money on services and products.
Edit: Link seems flaky. Let me know if it works properly.
Most profitable company in the world 2024 | Statista
The Saudi Arabian national oil company Saudi Aramco was the most profitable company worldwide in 2024.
www.statista.com
Not sure how reliable the source is, or why you limit it to five, but here you go…
The healthcare/pharmaceutical companies are the worst of the lot. Despicable. But I don’t need to explain that…
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I've not ready every single post on this thread, I just skimmed a few as they general consensus seems to be the same - Apple is so so greedy etc etc.
Just playing devils advocate here but Apple is a company, with shareholders and a board to report to, the concept of greed doesn't factor in here, they are a business and businesses exist to make money to pay the shareholders.
People are greedy, companies just exist to make money, that's their sole purpose.
Just playing devils advocate here but Apple is a company, with shareholders and a board to report to, the concept of greed doesn't factor in here, they are a business and businesses exist to make money to pay the shareholders.
People are greedy, companies just exist to make money, that's their sole purpose.
I don't disagree with what you say. Companies must create shareholder value, and shareholders/analysts/portfolio managers demand revenue growth generally. The yuckiest sticking point is what those of us long-time or relatively long-tem Apple customers (20 years for me) maybe recognize better than those who "came to" Apple products within the last 10 yeas: There's been a shift from when Apple was "rising up" towards greatness in the 2000's and prior, where Apple products/services felt much more "customer first," to put it very vaguely/generally.
Subjectively, from around 2008-2013, anything from Apple just seemed so special, magical, and "just worked."
After around 2013, I started feeling slighted as a customer by Apple for the first time. It's when I first started noticing how changes in hardware/software design seemed to come with certain trade-offs. I had to work harder for what used to just be there before. Sometimes more confusing/vaguer interfaces. Sometimes thinner/revised hardware that took away something I valued (ports, keyboard travel, upgradeability, etc.) or required me to go buy and tote something that used to just come with the device (headphones, hubs to regain ports, dongles/adapters, and now charging bricks).
Companies exist to make money. Apple worked hard to woo us to get money from us. Apple has since started "innovating" things that reduce the value equation for many of us. Apple has since started introducing non-tech-focused high-dollar optional/discretionary fashion/status items (Mac Pro wheels, monitor stands, wiping cloths) that at worst raise eyebrows for some and at the least, turn off those who really need those items for function but are stuck with the Dior price tag. Apple can control that. It’s not that Apple is being greedy, it’s more that so much of their offerings now seem more about revenue than function and features that most users can benefit from. That's what sucks.
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You're assuming there's a positive outcome. The only positive reports so far are Apple's record breaking revenues and their cost savings. Why didnt Apple report how many less chargers they make? I'm sure they have that information.
Does Apple report on how many of anything it makes? I don't really understand what you're alleging above. You're still pursuing the line that they actually do still manufacture 100 million charging bricks every year but don't sell them, and your evidence for that is that they don't make the number produced publicly available?
What’s next, remove the sim tool? After all it’s a smartphone so we’ve probably all got one in 2022. A new charging brick every now and again is a good thing surely, old ones might break or even become faulty which would be dangerous. Remove the stickers? I bet more people actually use the included accessories than the stickers. I always found Apple earbuds pleasant to use and don’t own a USB-C set even though the 3.5mm jack started disappearing in… 2017?
I’m done with iPhone, while I’m annoyed Samsung have gone the Apple way and removed the headphone jack and omitted the SD card slot, I do want a dual sim model which they produce (not e-sim.)
Sarcasm on the sim tool btw, I’ve had 2 iPhones and 3 cellular iPads and only have 1 pin that I can locate. Lost the Mini 5 pin so had to put my Mini 6 pin in with it when I sold it.
I’m done with iPhone, while I’m annoyed Samsung have gone the Apple way and removed the headphone jack and omitted the SD card slot, I do want a dual sim model which they produce (not e-sim.)
Sarcasm on the sim tool btw, I’ve had 2 iPhones and 3 cellular iPads and only have 1 pin that I can locate. Lost the Mini 5 pin so had to put my Mini 6 pin in with it when I sold it.
It’s just funny that Apple chose to take the charging brick out of the box at the same exact time as they started to push higher watt chargers while going on about how everyone has one. Yea everyone has a 5 watt charger but almost no one had the 18/20 watt charger that they push so hard with MagSafe and MagSafe duo. Having to buy these in separate packaging is much more environmentally unfriendly then including it in the box.
lol this made me laugh, i couldnt post as i have my own personal mod who allows others to speak but not me.