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chfilm You are correct and here is my excuse : ( I didn't have the option to register in Greek Apple Store )
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Damn. So It Sadly means nothing :( Nooooooooooo not America first in this case, please!
 
It’s really strange. Maybe they want to avoid a sh*tstorm about the BTO prices before the actual orders come online 🤓
Yeah exactly. It is a bad sign for prices of Vega II or Vega II Duo or Afterburner if they don’t want to say before ordering begins?

I was maybe thinking with the high cost of the base model maybe they would slightly lower the cost of the upgrades comparatively. But this is Apple so probs silly thinking.

How much is a vega II worth compared to a Radeon VII? That’s what I’m wondering.
 
Yeah exactly. It is a bad sign for prices of Vega II or Vega II Duo or Afterburner if they don’t want to say before ordering begins?

I was maybe thinking with the high cost of the base model maybe they would slightly lower the cost of the upgrades comparatively. But this is Apple so probs silly thinking.

How much is a vega II worth compared to a Radeon VII? That’s what I’m wondering.
What really got me scared is the prices north of 5000$ for comparable workstation 32gb Nvidia cards...
 
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I was at the local Apple store today and they didn't know the Mac Pro will be available to order on Tuesday. I showed them the email. They said they don't know when it'll be in stock at the store, maybe Thursday. They have 3 configurations of the 16" MacBook Pro they keep in stock so they said there will probably be two or three standard configurations for the Mac Pro they will stock at the stores.
 
I received my email notification at about 8:30 pm in the UK yesterday. Save the date creates a time of 5pm GMT, with the links to the UK Apple site.
 
I was just on the phone with a nice lady from apple business sales in Germany and she had no idea that it would be available tomorrow, even though she was excited about the machine and called it „the monster“ :D She said she assumes the lines will be running hot tomorrow... Odd that she didn't know about the imminent release though.
 
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Fwiw, I registered two different emails for "Notify Me" and haven't received an email on either. USA-based.
 
I was at the local Apple store today and they didn't know the Mac Pro will be available to order on Tuesday. I showed them the email. They said they don't know when it'll be in stock at the store, maybe Thursday. They have 3 configurations of the 16" MacBook Pro they keep in stock so they said there will probably be two or three standard configurations for the Mac Pro they will stock at the stores.

The Mac Pro costs about 3x as much as a MBP 16". Except for stores where Apple expects there to be some unusual density of Mac Pro sales, I doubt they are gong to locally stock more than one configuration. It is way too expensive of product to sit around doing nothing. [ and no, the gold Apple watch aren't really precedent setting. Apple burned up gobs of money shoveling those to places where no one was going to buy them. ]

That why they should have a pre-order window. If folks want to pick up at the local store than pre-order and pick up later for the vast majority of store locations. Those smaller Mall stores may not even get a display model. ( there are some current ones with zero Mac Pro 2013 on display. That probably won't change for the Mac Pro 2019. )
 
The Mac Pro costs about 3x as much as a MBP 16". Except for stores where Apple expects there to be some unusual density of Mac Pro sales, I doubt they are gong to locally stock more than one configuration. It is way too expensive of product to sit around doing nothing. [ and no, the gold Apple watch aren't really precedent setting. Apple burned up gobs of money shoveling those to places where no one was going to buy them. ]

That why they should have a pre-order window. If folks want to pick up at the local store than pre-order and pick up later for the vast majority of store locations. Those smaller Mall stores may not even get a display model. ( there are some current ones with zero Mac Pro 2013 on display. That probably won't change for the Mac Pro 2019. )


Correct, the closest location to my home here won't have a demo model according to my Apple Business rep. It's not a small store but it's not a flagship either. I'm expecting flagships and "only retail location in the area" stores will be the only ones that get a demo unit, if that.
 
16" MBP has been fast. I ordered my high-end CTO on Wednesday the 27th of November, and it was in my hands Monday the 2nd of December. Stock models were even faster for many people. Will Apple be that fast with the Mac Pros?

I suspect the average Apple store will have exactly one display model, and may or may not stock one in the back... Pretty much every Apple store got a display iMac Pro, which wasn't hugely less expensive than a base Mac Pro. They also tended to have trashcan Mac Pros, back when those were new (they got rid of them when they were embarrassingly old and nobody was buying them). The display model will probably be running its own configurator, and, if you walk into an Apple store to buy one, you can use the store demo to order what you want. Of course you can order whatever you want (and can afford) online as well, and that will be the common way - but Apple will have it available for in-store ordering (that's what they did with the iMac Pro - the Apple Store demos had the configuration page as their wake-up screen).

They generally did stock base iMac Pros in Apple Stores, but I suspect the base model was a higher percentage of those sales than it will be for the Mac Pro. I wonder if some large Apple Stores will be able to do some level of in-store customization? It wouldn't be too hard to do - a Genius could pop anything, even including a CPU, into the machine. One approach would be to stock a few barebones Mac Pros with no options at all, and then have a (small) supply of popular parts on hand at big stores. Is it worth it to Apple? Since they can build any configuration from a barebones model in an hour in Texas, they could also centralize that operation there and say "you can pick it up here tomorrow - or we'll send it to your doorstep".
 
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