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Mr.Fox

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The worst. Really? Isn’t it one of AMD’s best?

How do you know?
Technical shortcomings, high temperature, minimal changes during undervolting, high voracity for electricity. Continue?
Read the official sources.
 

Neon_M

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Technical shortcomings, high temperature, minimal changes during undervolting, high voracity for electricity. Continue?
Read the official sources.
So you’re saying it’s the worst? Literally the worst? Bearing in mind we are talking about performance, not reliability. It’s your belief that the M3 Max is bad because it beats the 7900xt?

I just want to be clear what your position is.
 

theorist9

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Custom air and water cooling solves all high temp problems.
1) Not for mobile devices, and all of these just-released M3 chips work well in laptops. That's certainly not the case for the i9-13900KS.

2) You're being inconsistent. In the above, when responding to a post about the i9-13900KS, you dismiss the downside of high power consumption (which is what causes high temperatures).

Yet, when talking about an AMD 7900 GPU, suddenly high temperature and power consumption become significant negatives:
Technical shortcomings, high temperature, minimal changes during undervolting, high voracity for electricity. Continue?
Read the official sources.
To all appearances, this is just one-sided Intel fanboism, not a serious attempt to critcially compare these devices.
 
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Mr.Fox

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So you’re saying it’s the worst? Literally the worst? Bearing in mind we are talking about performance, not reliability. It’s your belief that the M3 Max is bad because it beats the 7900xt?

I just want to be clear what your position is.

We're talking about everything. Yes, it's the worst (M3 chip, if you don't know what we're talking about). Yes, this video card is the worst.

And you yourself do an experiment, take your friends or work computer on intel and load it, for example, rendering, complex or calculation. And calculate the time. You'll be surprised. The gap between intel and amd will be phenomenal.

And if you compare not with M1 on all charts, but with a chip 10 years ago, the chart would be even more beautiful.
 

Apple_Robert

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There is a lot more to a computer than speed. What about integration with other products? What about security and privacy of the OS as well as the apps offering? What about customer service after the sale? What about warranty? There is a reason so many people are willing to pay extra for a Mac.
 

Mr.Fox

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1) Not for mobile devices, and all of these just-released M3 chips work well in laptops. That's certainly not the case for the i9-13900KS.

2) You're being inconsistent. In the above, when responding to a post about the i9-13900KS, you dismiss the downside of high power consumption (which is what causes high temperatures).

Yet, when talking about an AMD 7900 GPU, suddenly high temperature and power consumption become significant negatives:

To all appearances, this is just one-sided Intel fanboism, not a serious attempt to critcially compare these devices.
Name the grid of dependence of processor performance on factors excluding manual overclocking.
 

Neon_M

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We're talking about everything. Yes, it's the worst (M3 chip, if you don't know what we're talking about). Yes, this video card is the worst.

And you yourself do an experiment, take your friends or work computer on intel and load it, for example, rendering, complex or calculation. And calculate the time. You'll be surprised. The gap between intel and amd will be phenomenal.

And if you compare not with M1 on all charts, but with a chip 10 years ago, the chart would be even more beautiful.
We’re talking about performance. You’re now saying its not only the worst now, but worse than gpus from 20 years ago?

im not sure what Intel has to do with this.
 
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theorist9

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Name the grid of dependence of processor performance on factors excluding manual overclocking.
Right. So you have no coherent response to my clear post identifying your obvious inconsistencies, and attempt to deflect attention away from that by responding with this word salad. It sounds like you're just here for trolling.
 
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Mr.Fox

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There is a lot more to a computer than speed. What about integration with other products? What about security and privacy of the OS as well as the apps offering? What about customer service after the sale? What about warranty? There is a reason so many people are willing to pay extra for a Mac.
Integration with products is the programmers' business, as well as how well it is adapted to the new system and how quickly it reacts to market changes in consumer demand. Taking into account that coding comes from the existing baggage, they will pull a lot of joint errors.
What do you mean by privacy and security? Companies don't care about your privacy - they've been using anonymous participation in improvement programs for a long time. Dig into the kernel. Iphones are successfully slowing down with every new firmware.
Install a good antivirus.
Do you think serious professional software is limited to the app store?
They all have warranties and service
 

Mr.Fox

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Right. So you have no coherent response to my clear post identifying your obvious inconsistencies, and attempt to deflect attention away from that by responding with this word salad. It sounds like you're just here for trolling.
I asked you a clear question that has not been answered. Give me a detailed answer. You're slipping, talking and accusing of trolling
 
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