i totally forgot to get the model # last night. my apologies. but in terms of the converter. i bought the one from ebay from eforcity and it does not seem to work. the one from monoprice looks similiar. or is it different internally?
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720p or 1080p Apple TV on a 32" 1080i HDTV?
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i totally forgot to get the model # last night. my apologies. but in terms of the converter. i bought the one from ebay from eforcity and it does not seem to work. the one from monoprice looks similiar. or is it different internally?
It doesn't really matter in the context of this thread, but it's one of my pet peeves. Many folks are confused as to the input source resolution and output display resolution.
Your Vizio is not a 1080i display. It is either a 1080p or 720p display. It will accept 720p/1080i/1080p sources through its inputs.
The aTV2 outputs 720p. The aTV3 outputs 1080p (and perhaps 720p as well). I'm pretty certain that only the original aTV had the ability to output 1080i.
The only HDTVs that had interlaced displays were the old CRT based HDTVs (direct view and rear-projection) and a few ALiS plasma panels, which were 1024i. As far as I know, there were no commercially available 1080i display TVs. Even the best CRT HDTVs could only resolve about 900 interlaced lines.
About 5 years ago, plasmas were able to get to 1080p, so that spelled the end of the ALiS 1024i panels.
Anyways, I'm not knocking on you. It's just a pet peeve of mine when I see people mixed up on input res and display res.
Now that I've said that, someone will probably find a mistake in my long post and I'll have to eat crow. Mmmm, delicious crow.
It doesn't really matter in the context of this thread, but it's one of my pet peeves. Many folks are confused as to the input source resolution and output display resolution.
Your Vizio is not a 1080i display. It is either a 1080p or 720p display. It will accept 720p/1080i/1080p sources through its inputs.
The aTV2 outputs 720p. The aTV3 outputs 1080p (and perhaps 720p as well). I'm pretty certain that only the original aTV had the ability to output 1080i.
The only HDTVs that had interlaced displays were the old CRT based HDTVs (direct view and rear-projection) and a few ALiS plasma panels, which were 1024i. As far as I know, there were no commercially available 1080i display TVs. Even the best CRT HDTVs could only resolve about 900 interlaced lines.
About 5 years ago, plasmas were able to get to 1080p, so that spelled the end of the ALiS 1024i panels.
Anyways, I'm not knocking on you. It's just a pet peeve of mine when I see people mixed up on input res and display res.
Now that I've said that, someone will probably find a mistake in my long post and I'll have to eat crow. Mmmm, delicious crow.
I would say you have nailed it except that some of the 9" tube Mitsubishi RPTVs could theoretically hit 1080i - however in practice it was nearly impossible to get the three guns converged across the entire screen that you could see it.
I just checked the specs for the PDP-5080 ... you actually have 4 HDMI ports. You have two options for getting the aTV onto your Pioneer.
1. Attach the aTV to the back of your TV and run a short HDMI cable to it. Make sure you set it up so that the remote will be able to control the aTV.
2. Use one of those monoprice HDMI/component converters and run your aTV to the Onkyo.
Viola.
i tried the eforcity one and got nothing. i didnt think my tv had hdmi because i didnt see any ports on the side, just component. they must be behind the tv.
connecting to the TV directly wont be good, no speakers. do you think the eforcity converter and the monoprice are different?
if only apple could have put hdmi and component on this unit. ive spent hours trying to figure this out with my receiver
Looking at the manual, the HDMI ports are on the back. As for not having speakers ... what happened to yours. Did you remove the speaker and lose them?
In this case, you could always run an optical cable from either your TV or aTV to the Onkyo (if it has an optical audio input). But I think you mentioned that you can't run cables in the wall.
As for the difference between the eForcity and Monoprice converters ... I can't comment. I don't know what the eForcity device is. I have read the Monoprice reviews and it seems like users have had much success using it with the aTV. Alas, dealing with HDMI converters is always a crapshoot since you may have HDCP handshake issues. If you're going all HDMI, it's usually no problem. If you go HDMI>Component>TV ... it could get tricky. You're adding another device in the stream ... could be trouble or it could be fine. Hard to say unless someone has the exact same gear and has tried it out.
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After doing a few HT installs in my day, I have a thought.
The component cable that already exists from your receiver to the TV, does it have 5 connections (3 video/2 audio)? If so, use ftaok's suggestion of the short HDMI cable/mount at the TV, and use those 2 unused audio cables to feed from the TV's audio outputs back to an unused audio input on your Onkyo. You wouldn't get 5.1, but the sound should be clean otherwise.
By the way, those Kuro sets were very highly regarded for their picture quality when they came out, definitely a keeper. It looks like the speakers were detachable so thats probably why they aren't there.
I would think there would have to be a way to get an HDMI cable there, especially since cables already exist that you could use to guide the new cable in place. Maybe return that eforcity thing, buy the proper length HDMI cable from monoprice and call an experienced HT installer for an opinion; it might not be as expensive as it seems.
The component cable that already exists from your receiver to the TV, does it have 5 connections (3 video/2 audio)? If so, use ftaok's suggestion of the short HDMI cable/mount at the TV, and use those 2 unused audio cables to feed from the TV's audio outputs back to an unused audio input on your Onkyo. You wouldn't get 5.1, but the sound should be clean otherwise.
By the way, those Kuro sets were very highly regarded for their picture quality when they came out, definitely a keeper. It looks like the speakers were detachable so thats probably why they aren't there.
I would think there would have to be a way to get an HDMI cable there, especially since cables already exist that you could use to guide the new cable in place. Maybe return that eforcity thing, buy the proper length HDMI cable from monoprice and call an experienced HT installer for an opinion; it might not be as expensive as it seems.
im going to check tonight the connections behind the tv in regards to the component cable and audio cables. im pretty sure their are 5 wires going to the tv. 3 video, 2 audio.