...much lower. Closer to MacMini than to 4.1. And it stays this way, even at max load. With load 4.1 was much noisier, but still ok.
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MP 7,1 8-core or 12-core CPU?
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I'm in the same boat as the OP and chose the W-3223 8 core. The upgrade prices are too high IMHO. If in a couple of years the prices on used CPUs come down, I can update then. As far as GPU, I chose the 580X. I plan on supplementing that with a Gigabyte 5700 XT at some point. For RAM I am looking at those of you who have upgraded your RAM and have discarded your 8GB DIMMs. I'd like to buy them. I hope to populate all my slots with 8GB modules. My 5,1 Mac Pro now has 8 3.46 cores and is now seven years old and doing just fine. The 7,1 should last at least as long.
Lou
Lou
1) Internal storage is not really the way to go anymore. They put 10GB interfaces on there for a reason. Sure you can spend hundreds of dollars to shove storage into the box, but a nice NAS provides you storage that is accessible from ALL your devices. Downloading and streaming stuff from my Synology to my iPad/Apple TV and Mac is worth way more than overpriced, non-redundant internal storage will ever be.
2) Nothing you described requires more than the base number of CPU's, if they had a 4-core model I would have bought it. Memory speed is something that only people chasing seconds or benchmark scores will ever notice. If you have to ask if you need incremental speed, than you probably don't need that speed. A couple of seconds shaved from something you are doing a hundred times a day adds up, but a very very small number of people fit in that category, and they know who they are because they suffer no matter how fast their box is.
3) The machine is beautiful, silent and will likely provide long term value. Trash can Pro's still have value, hard to imagine the new Pro won't hold similar or better value down the road. The biggest question is what happens when Apple pivots to ARM, but it would be hard to believe that the new Pro wasn't designed with that pivot in mind. Even if this is a dead end it will likely suffice for 3-5 years, which is a good return as long as you don't go crazy on the specs.
Remember, the whole point of this machine is that it can change. front loading the performance before you even know you need to defeats the purpose. If the CPU is slow, you can live with it for a while and in 6 months CPU upgrades will be that much cheaper. Memory is trivial to add. PC focused Graphics cards will start picking up support, companies will start porting PCI based stuff as it will all be low hanging/high margin fruit. Spend as little as you can for as long as you can and you will reap the rewards.
2) Nothing you described requires more than the base number of CPU's, if they had a 4-core model I would have bought it. Memory speed is something that only people chasing seconds or benchmark scores will ever notice. If you have to ask if you need incremental speed, than you probably don't need that speed. A couple of seconds shaved from something you are doing a hundred times a day adds up, but a very very small number of people fit in that category, and they know who they are because they suffer no matter how fast their box is.
3) The machine is beautiful, silent and will likely provide long term value. Trash can Pro's still have value, hard to imagine the new Pro won't hold similar or better value down the road. The biggest question is what happens when Apple pivots to ARM, but it would be hard to believe that the new Pro wasn't designed with that pivot in mind. Even if this is a dead end it will likely suffice for 3-5 years, which is a good return as long as you don't go crazy on the specs.
Remember, the whole point of this machine is that it can change. front loading the performance before you even know you need to defeats the purpose. If the CPU is slow, you can live with it for a while and in 6 months CPU upgrades will be that much cheaper. Memory is trivial to add. PC focused Graphics cards will start picking up support, companies will start porting PCI based stuff as it will all be low hanging/high margin fruit. Spend as little as you can for as long as you can and you will reap the rewards.
Considering the last 30 days CPU load on my 5,1, a 8 core might be the right way to go:
I've just purchased a Sonnet M.2 4x4 PCIe Card and another 2 970 Evos. Runs perfectly in my 5,1 already.
I've just purchased a Sonnet M.2 4x4 PCIe Card and another 2 970 Evos. Runs perfectly in my 5,1 already.
^^^^Mine, outfitted exactly like yours, and ordered on 1/30 is on the truck top be delivered today. I have a HighPoint 7103, and a Syba I/O Crest card. Two 970 Pros, Three 970 Evos, and an SM951. I's like to find something like the Pegasus enclosure sans drives. I have two 840 Evos that I pulled from my 5,1 cMP.
Lou
Lou
My Sonnet runs already in my 5,1. Very nice my 970 EVO now runs at 32°C , 48°C before with passive cooling.
Do you have FileVault on your 5,1? I just wonder if I have to deactivate FileVault on the 7,1 in order to be able to go back to the 5,1 in case of troubles as I do not have FileVault on my 5,1.
I have two 4TB WD HDDs internal and I think the Pegasus is a quite nice solution, even if the 8TB HDD is not needed. I'll probably use it for additional external backup. I do also have another 1TB SSD which I will use as a CCC system backup drive. And I have also a 2x4TB NAS in my network. Safety first.
I'll probably add another 4x8GB RAM. Regarding GPU, as I don't have a TB3 display, I can go with a cheap 5700 later. Also for CPU, if I need more speed the 16core will probably drop on price within the next 1-2 years.
will 2666Mhz ddr4 ( owc ) ram from an 8 core Mac Pro , work in an xeon w-3275m 28 core ? or have to change them all ?
( upgrading from 8 core to 28 core with radeon VII inside + 192 gb ram ddr4 2666mhz )
( upgrading from 8 core to 28 core with radeon VII inside + 192 gb ram ddr4 2666mhz )
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^^^^Yes, the OEM RAM supplied by Apple is rated at 2933 MHz DDR4. It runs at 2666Mhz with the 8 core chip, but will run at 2933MHz with any other CPU. I upgraded my CPU from 8 to 16 core and my RAM from 32GB to 96GB using all Apple 8GB sticks. Speed changed from 2666 to 2933MHz.
Lou
Lou