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Apple's new MacBook Pro models are powered by cutting-edge M3 Apple silicon, but the base configuration 14-inch model starting at $1,599 comes with just 8GB of working memory. In 2012, Apple launched the first MacBook Pro with Retina display, which also started with 8GB of RAM. Of course, Apple now uses integrated chips with unified memory architecture, which is why the company feels confident in arguing that 8GB on a Mac is comparable to 16GB on rival systems.


But not everyone is convinced. Apple's decision not to equip base models with at least 16GB of RAM in late 2023 has proved incongruous to many users, including Vadim Yuryev, co-host of the YouTube channel Max Tech. Yuryev decided to perform several real-world tests on two 14-inch M3 MacBook Pro models, one with 8GB and the other upgraded to 16GB of unified memory. The embedded video above has all the results.

Perhaps unsurprisingly, Yuryev saw significant performance improvements across the board using the 16GB machine under both middling and heavier workloads. The 8GB model suffered double-digit losses in Cinebench benchmarks, and took several minutes longer to complete photo-merging jobs in Photoshop as well as media exports in Final Cut and Adobe Lightroom Classic.

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These tests were conducted as single operations with nothing else running, but also repeated with browser tabs, YouTube videos, spreadsheets, emails, and the like, open in the background to simulate typical real-world multi-tasking scenarios. As expected, the performance gap between the two machines widened further as the 8GB increasingly relied on its SSD swap file, while all-round responsiveness took a hit. Yuryev even reported crashes on the 8GB model during Blender rendering and a Final Cut export.

Notably, Blender's raytracing acceleration was available as an option on the 16GB models, but was conspicuously absent on the 8GB MacBook Pro for an identical rendering job, suggesting the reduced memory pool actually prevents the GPU cores from utilizing certain features.

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Tests like these present a dilemma for customers looking to purchase a new MacBook Pro (or a new 8GB iMac, for that matter). Settling for 8GB appears to hinder the M3 chip's performance, but choosing 16GB or 24GB configuration options at checkout costs an extra $200 and $400, respectively, and Apple's machines cannot be upgraded at a later date because of their unified memory architecture.

After factoring in the extra $200 for 16GB on a 14-inch M3 MacBook Pro, an M3 Pro model with 18GB and several other extra features is only $200 more at $1,999. More galling perhaps is the fact that rival laptops at similar ballpark prices (Microsoft Surface or Lenovo Thinkpad, for example) come with at least 16GB of memory as standard. Apple customers are expected to pay $200 extra each jump up, which surely includes a healthy markup, however much Apple pays its RAM suppliers.

Is Apple's 8GB starting configuration for a $1,599 MacBook Pro really acceptable in 2023? And has the company's memory pricing policy affected your own purchase options? Let us know in the comments.

Article Link: 8GB RAM in M3 MacBook Pro Proves the Bottleneck in Real-World Tests


Apple's new MacBook Pro models are powered by cutting-edge M3 Apple silicon, but the base configuration 14-inch model starting at $1,599 comes with just 8GB of working memory. In 2012, Apple launched the first MacBook Pro with Retina display, which also started with 8GB of RAM. Of course, Apple now uses integrated chips with unified memory architecture, which is why the company feels confident in arguing that 8GB on a Mac is comparable to 16GB on rival systems.


But not everyone is convinced. Apple's decision not to equip base models with at least 16GB of RAM in late 2023 has proved incongruous to many users, including Vadim Yuryev, co-host of the YouTube channel Max Tech. Yuryev decided to perform several real-world tests on two 14-inch M3 MacBook Pro models, one with 8GB and the other upgraded to 16GB of unified memory. The embedded video above has all the results.

Perhaps unsurprisingly, Yuryev saw significant performance improvements across the board using the 16GB machine under both middling and heavier workloads. The 8GB model suffered double-digit losses in Cinebench benchmarks, and took several minutes longer to complete photo-merging jobs in Photoshop as well as media exports in Final Cut and Adobe Lightroom Classic.

max-tech-8gb-16gb-mbp2.jpg

These tests were conducted as single operations with nothing else running, but also repeated with browser tabs, YouTube videos, spreadsheets, emails, and the like, open in the background to simulate typical real-world multi-tasking scenarios. As expected, the performance gap between the two machines widened further as the 8GB increasingly relied on its SSD swap file, while all-round responsiveness took a hit. Yuryev even reported crashes on the 8GB model during Blender rendering and a Final Cut export.

Notably, Blender's raytracing acceleration was available as an option on the 16GB models, but was conspicuously absent on the 8GB MacBook Pro for an identical rendering job, suggesting the reduced memory pool actually prevents the GPU cores from utilizing certain features.

max-tech-8gb-16gb-mbp1.jpg

Tests like these present a dilemma for customers looking to purchase a new MacBook Pro (or a new 8GB iMac, for that matter). Settling for 8GB appears to hinder the M3 chip's performance, but choosing 16GB or 24GB configuration options at checkout costs an extra $200 and $400, respectively, and Apple's machines cannot be upgraded at a later date because of their unified memory architecture.

After factoring in the extra $200 for 16GB on a 14-inch M3 MacBook Pro, an M3 Pro model with 18GB and several other extra features is only $200 more at $1,999. More galling perhaps is the fact that rival laptops at similar ballpark prices (Microsoft Surface or Lenovo Thinkpad, for example) come with at least 16GB of memory as standard. Apple customers are expected to pay $200 extra each jump up, which surely includes a healthy markup, however much Apple pays its RAM suppliers.

Is Apple's 8GB starting configuration for a $1,599 MacBook Pro really acceptable in 2023? And has the company's memory pricing policy affected your own purchase options? Let us know in the comments.

Article Link: 8GB RAM in M3 MacBook Pro Proves the Bottleneck in Real-World Tests

For a company that loves to virtue signal the 8MB configuration is not very energy efficient. All that extra fossil fuel utilization to compensate for the increased task completion time.

Apple has lost its way with Tim Cook.
 
I was totally blown away by this – I almost taught the kids that 8 is greater than 16. Turns out, the real deal is that 16 is actually greater than 8. What an amazing discovery!
You gave me a good laugh. Thank you. I needed that today!
 
SURPRISE! More RAM is faster!

I hate to repeat myself but...

Not according to Apple. They boldly stated 8GB RAM is the same as a PC with 16GB RAM.

Apple never said more RAM wasn't faster. They simply said 8GB in a Mac was the same as 16GB in a PC. That isn't the same as saying that 16GB in a Mac isn't any faster than 8GB in a Mac. That's why they offer upgrade options... more is and always will be faster in the same machine.

Which mean, this guy's "test" is nothing more than a demonstration of the obvious. To truly test Apple's claim, he'd have had to test the Mac with 8GB RAM against a PC with 16GB RAM. He didn't.

That all being said, I also prefer 16GB RAM, so when I bought my new MBA a few weeks ago, I paid the $180 upgrade fee. It's nice they offer a cheaper base model for those who don't want anything more.

While we are bitching, why does Starbucks still sell a 12 oz coffee in 2023?!?! The base by now should be 16 oz!!! Damn Starbucks for offering choices.
 
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The drag is not only the money. The bigger drag is that you generally can’t just walk into a store and buy a 16GB one. Has to be special ordered.
That is the biggest issue with this, i don't mind the 200 dollar extra but it's very hard to find in a store.
 
This is such a wrong argument. We talk about the Apple McBook Pro. For Office workers, you probably will be happy with the Air (or iMac) and nobody is argueing here (though Apple still has a steep price in my opinion).

No office would shill out for a Pro, if they can get away with a cheaper Apple SKU.
Really? Umm...welp, I beg to differ. I've seen it myself ;-)
 
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if you need 16GB, buy 16GB... My current MacBook Air M2 has 16GB...I realized I need more RAM to support my applications (both Mac and Parallels/Windows)... so I ordered a new MacBook Pro M3 Max with 36GB... it's not that hard, nor is it some grand conspiracy. Nothing wrong with an entry-level MBP w/ 8GB of memory.
 
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If you're an avid user of apps like Lightroom, Final Cut, Photoshop, etc., and you're buying 8GB, that's the real mistake here. The corollary of this (somewhat useless) article is: if you work in multimedia, more memory is better. Which has also been true for the past 30+ years.
 
Apple did not say compare the M3 8 GB to the M3 16 GB, obviously it will be faster (🤪). They said compare performance to other top Intel 8 GB laptops or other top Intel 16 GB laptops.
 
Now I’m starting to wonder if the things the apple haters say about apple are true. It‘s one thing when they did it on a none pro one thousand dollar laptop, fine. But a $1599 Pro machine, thats ridiculously.
 
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Good thing the 14" M3 Pro model exists and is a standard, stocked config with 18GB. I'd recommend most people purchase that if they need more than the MBA.
 
200€ for 8GB RAM increase is a bad joke. I’ve just ordered some memory to upgrade my iMac 27” And a 8GB memory module for my iMac cost 15€.

Unified memory has to be shared as video memory on the Mac. So 8GB on a Mac is less then 8GB on a PC, were dedicated GPU’s have his own additional memory.
 
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8GB is not enough for running applications like that. I think we all should know that by now. If you're doing FC, Blender, C4D or Adobe anything, you get as much RAM as you can afford. So no one is really going to buy an 8GB model for that. It's kind of miss-leading to even make a performance comparison using it. Other than to clearly state the obvious. Don't buy lowest end Mac pro for this kind of work. If you're not doing that kind of work. 8GB is fine for most basic tasks. Which is why it is an option. If you're in school, and need/want a Mac Book. This is clearly aimed at that group. Writers, or content consumption. NOT for creation, and heavy multitasking.

Apple stating that 8GB is like Windows with 16. Is factoring in features that exist on the Mac that can alleviate some of the memory limitations. But, it's always better to have real RAM available to the system over SSD swapping.

So another note to self. Don't buy the least powerful Mac and expect it to work miracles.
Know what type of work you're going to be doing with it, and purchase accordingly. All of my Mac's (ALL OF THEM) in the past 10 years have had 32GB or MORE of RAM. They don't need the highest end CPU (iMac Pro is an 8 Core with 32GB of RAM. nMac Pro has 64GB of RAM as it was upgradable). All of my MacBook Pro's have 32GB of ram. Even this M2 Max has 32. My M1 Max Studio has 32GB, and so on. I have not experienced any memory issues or speed issues or any issues (except heat on those intel mac's).

Should Apple sell ONLY 16GB as a base? You can argue that. But, having 8 as an option lowers the price of entry for those that really don't need more. And if it was taken away, others would complain that it's too expensive.
And others will complain that Apple should just eat the cost increase. And as a Shareholder I say NO to that. :)
Except many don't know that going in and the computers are no longer user upgradeable. The problem ultimately is the branding of the machines. It's a MacBook Pro, not an air or even a 'regular' macbook if they bring that back.

The excuses for apple on this issue has been ridiculous for years now and as consumers we've been letting them off the hook because they made non-upgradeable devices acceptable since the release of the iPhone in 2007.
 
Okay, is this really surprising to anyone? Also it tells you CLEARLY on Apple's website what the different GB are good for. They aren't lying or trying to scam anyone. Right where you select your memory Apple gives you this information:

"8GB: Great for browsing online, streaming movies, messaging with friends and family, editing photos and personal video, casual gaming, and running everyday productivity apps.

16GB: Great if you will be multitasking across a large number of memory-intensive apps, including professional video editing.

24GB or more: Best if you typically work on advanced projects that require enormous files and content libraries."


When I saw this article, I wanted to be like, "Yeah, no shi* Sherlock."
 
200€ for 8GB RAM increase is a bad joke. I’ve just ordered some memory to upgrade my iMac 27” And a 8GB memory module for my iMac cost 15€.

Unified memory has to be shared as video memory on the Mac. So 8GB on a Mac is less then 8GB on a PC, were dedicated GPU’s have his own additional memory.
Unified memory is not the same as your memory stick. But I do get your point. It's a too pricey.
 
This seems like a not-so-sneaky way to encourage more people to buy directly from Apple, which is the easiest route for configuring RAM and other upgrades at the time of purchase. Ugh. There are other options, like B&H photo, which will carry different configurations, I believe.
 
Except many don't know that going in and the computers are no longer user upgradeable. The problem ultimately is the branding of the machines. It's a MacBook Pro, not an air or even a 'regular' macbook if they bring that back.

The excuses for apple on this issue has been ridiculous for years now and as consumers we've been letting them off the hook because they made non-upgradeable devices acceptable since the release of the iPhone in 2007.
It's clearly listed on Apple's website what you can do with 8 GB vs 16 vs 24.
 
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The 8GB Ram and M3 shouldn't exist. Nothing Pro about them. The $1999 M3 Pro with 18/512 should be $1699. People like being ripped off that’s why Apple gets away with it.
 
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