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A fair comparison of iOS and Android
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Okay.. This may be hard for some to figure out but.....
Don't downland any of "the crappy, battery sucking apps and widgets" and if one of them does manage to slip through your net, you have the capacity it uninstall it don't you?
I've gone decades without anyone babying me when it comes to computing and I don't need Google to start babying me now. YMMV of course (alongside others) and as I said above there is always iOS or Windows phone for the more simple amongst us.
Enjoy your iPhone.
Most users can't tell which app is sucking their battery, and they shouldn't have to. You aren't being "babied" by having a higher quality, curated Play Store.
You're really preaching to the wrong person.
I know everything that Apple offers and it isn't for me as a primary platform.If you're unwilling or incapable of controlling what you install, you have your perfect platform in iOS which shouldn't tax even the most simple of people. As I am more than capable of sourcing, installing and using the best the Play Store (and external to the Play store) offers, I have my perfect platform.
Like I said earlier, we don't need a third platform that goes down the same simple road that Windows Phone and iOS offers. If people want that they can bounce off of the walls that Apple and Microsoft have built.
Consumers will speak with their wallets and Android will die a swift death if android requires exactly what you wish for. If not, then watch it flourish into a lively platform that offers something different from "the others" (you watch RIM follow the same road as MS and Apple with BB10 - perhaps there is your alternative!)
I'm not for babysitting and have managed without Google looking over my shoulder since I dumped my iPhone 3g back in the day. Long may that continue IMO.
As for "most users"? I know where I'll direct them when they need advice on what to buy. I normally get a follow up a week or two later asking "can I Bluetooth files from my phone? " or "can I get apps from other places? ", I reply "no" and eventually they settle with their new, and slightly less functional but altogether nice and shiny iPhone.
I'm not "most users" having used Symbian, UIQ, Windows Mobile, WebOS, iOS and finally Android over the years so my perspective on smartphones is very different compared to people that have gotten into the smartphone game in the Apple era.
I genuinely mean this when I say enjoy your iPhone. As an outsider looking in I've seen your complaints over various posts here and it looks to be the quintessential platform for you. Enjoy!
You still are not getting my meaning. I have a Nexus 7. I have used a ton of 4.2 ROM's as well. Vanilla Android isn't the issue. The issue is 4.2. It was released full of bugs, because Google wanted LG to have it for the release of the Nexus 4.
And by the way, I don't use stock Touchwiz either, but some of the Samsung features are useful and I use ROM's that have incorporated some of their innovative ideas. (This is on my S3 obviously, not the Nex7.)
Point is, you are arguing with me about a null point. I am not disagreeing with you.
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I would love to see you show me your onscreen battery results. Oh, that's right, you can't.
But, I dare you to turn your brightness on to 100%, and then use Navigation, music player, surf the web, send emails, play a few games and do some texting. I usually get 4 hours of 'real actual onscreen use" and about 9 hours of heavy use on the S3.
Of course, heavy use on an iPhone isn't saying much, but I challenge you to it. Once it drains to 5%, see how much time has actually passed. Then, change out the battery and go for another 9 hours.... oh wait, forgot. You have to be next to a plug, or stick a huge gawdy battery case on it.
I can go without a charger for a week, using my phone moderately. The iPhone is a joke when it comes to this sort of thing. I laugh at iPhone battery life.
You still are not getting my meaning. I have a Nexus 7. I have used a ton of 4.2 ROM's as well. Vanilla Android isn't the issue. The issue is 4.2. It was released full of bugs, because Google wanted LG to have it for the release of the Nexus 4.
And by the way, I don't use stock Touchwiz either, but some of the Samsung features are useful and I use ROM's that have incorporated some of their innovative ideas. (This is on my S3 obviously, not the Nex7.)
Point is, you are arguing with me about a null point. I am not disagreeing with you.
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I would love to see you show me your onscreen battery results. Oh, that's right, you can't.
But, I dare you to turn your brightness on to 100%, and then use Navigation, music player, surf the web, send emails, play a few games and do some texting. I usually get 4 hours of 'real actual onscreen use" and about 9 hours of heavy use on the S3.
Of course, heavy use on an iPhone isn't saying much, but I challenge you to it. Once it drains to 5%, see how much time has actually passed. Then, change out the battery and go for another 9 hours.... oh wait, forgot. You have to be next to a plug, or stick a huge gawdy battery case on it.
I can go without a charger for a week, using my phone moderately. The iPhone is a joke when it comes to this sort of thing. I laugh at iPhone battery life.
In my younger days, this is where I searched the inter webs for an animated gif of Errol Flynn laughing with his hands on his hips to post as a follow up...
There has got to be 50+ interesting features added. From the ability to use multiple app split screen to being able to take a group picture and use the best face from each person from an instant burst shot, stitch together instantly and seamlessly.
I use iOS and stock android but there are a lot of features of TW on the note 2 that I wish my nexus 10 had.
Are you really asking this? A stylus is a much better option for taking notes than using your fingers. This might not be important to you, but your use case scenario doesn't reflect other people's.
Shhh... Let them believe Apple doesn't data harvest. Every company in the mobile telecoms business does it. Some mine deeper than others. Some mining is passive and some is aggressive. Google and Apple utilize both. Google's name gets thrown around more due to admob and other ads catered to individual wbsurfing. Although, this can be shut off by the user, so no history of your surfing is tracked.
But any person that spits vitreous accusations against Google for this practice, yet doesn't hold Apple to the same standard is just eschewing nonsense for the sake of it.
Here is a quick Google search for Apple's data mining practices;
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I am sure there are. But Google are doing this with very little control and why knowingly opt into this madness?
I don't want to be served ads based on what emails I receive or who I send them to, is the very least concern I have with their practices.
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Why why why do people keep saying this?
You already have locked down and under control in iOS. Why do we need a third platform under the lock and key by the creators (the second being Windows Phone).
I'd drop the platform like a stone if it ended up emulating what Apple have on offer. Leave it be, you have your closed, controlled, perfected platform, we have ours (including the source code).
I think openess was probably the wrong phrase to use. The correct one would be, to not allow apps to have so much control over background processes.
For instance, load up better battery stats... and tell me why Facebook has to run that damn battery rinsing Katana service constantly? Why does that need to happen.
Apps should not be allowed to do whatever they like in the background. This is a big part of why battery life on Android is poor to say the least.
With regard to Google's data mining, I used to be very wary of it. However, I have done the research and it seems fairly innocuous in that the data are supposedly anonymized so that those using Google Ads do not know who you are. I still wonder how much can be inferred about you when you click on a Google Ad. Also, I have heard of one story of a scientist who e-mailed a colleague a manuscript that was in the final stages of editing before publication, and the manuscript appeared on Google Scholar prior to the published article without the authors' explicit consent. I cannot confirm for certain whether the story was true, but I trust the source. In any case, Google's terms are available for anybody to read.
On my part, I still have concerns about handing all of my personal information to one company, which is why I have not plugged into Google's ecosystem. I also do not like that Google's customers are marketing and advertising agencies rather than users like me. Still, I am considering getting an Android tablet since the iPad pricing is a little high for me, which is why I occasionally check in this forum....
On my part, I still have concerns about handing all of my personal information to one company, which is why I have not plugged into Google's ecosystem. I also do not like that Google's customers are marketing and advertising agencies rather than users like me. Still, I am considering getting an Android tablet since the iPad pricing is a little high for me, which is why I occasionally check in this forum....