A King has his reign and then he dies....

[Calidude]

I've been saying this for months now. Apple is slacking off and its going to result in a lot of people on this forum getting REALLY upset and jumping to another phone.

On September 12th, mark my words, we're gonna see a LOT of threads moved here to this Alternatives forum. iPhone users be so annoyed at the keynote that they will rant and vent all day and the mods will have a big workload that day.

 

[McGiord]

I've been saying this for months now. Apple is slacking off and its going to result in a lot of people on this forum getting REALLY upset and jumping to another phone.

On September 12th, mark my words, we're gonna see a LOT of threads moved here to this Alternatives forum. iPhone users be so annoyed at the keynote that they will rant and vent all day and the mods will have a big workload that day.

What is what you want in the new iPhone that you will get somewhere else?

 

[Mrg02d]

What is what you want in the new iPhone that you will get somewhere else?

Much bigger screen, some eye candy, widgets, newer look/feel (haptic feedback anyone)

 

[Calidude]

What is what you want in the new iPhone that you will get somewhere else?

I moved to a Galaxy Nexus weeks ago.

The iPhone's screen should be wider and iOS is just too slow to adopt features that really should be on a phone. Android covers pretty much all of the missing features from iOS. The only thing I miss on iOS is "Find My Phone" being built-in and I can do that with an Android app.

 

[MacDawg]

I've been saying this for months now. Apple is slacking off and its going to result in a lot of people on this forum getting REALLY upset and jumping to another phone.

On September 12th, mark my words, we're gonna see a LOT of threads moved here to this Alternatives forum. iPhone users be so annoyed at the keynote that they will rant and vent all day and the mods will have a big workload that day.

I think you overstate the case
Yes, some will be disappointed and vocal, but in the overall scheme of things, it will be fairly insignificant

I moved to a Galaxy Nexus weeks ago.

The iPhone's screen should be wider and iOS is just too slow to adopt features that really should be on a phone. Android covers pretty much all of the missing features from iOS. The only thing I miss on iOS is "Find My Phone" being built-in and I can do that with an Android app.

Which begs the question, if you have moved on to a Nexus, and Android meets all of your needs, why do you feel the need to come here to constantly create threads and posts to criticize a phone and OS you no longer use?

 

[Calidude]

Which begs the question, if you have moved on to a Nexus, and Android meets all of your needs, why do you feel the need to come here to constantly create threads and posts to criticize a phone and OS you no longer use?

1) I have an iPad, which I consider to be the best kind of tablet right now. I use it mostly for reading. I don't think Android is any good as a tablet.
2) I'd go back to iPhone if iOS improved to a certain point, so why not be one of the voices that spurs Apple to come get my dollars back someday?

 

[McGiord]

I moved to a Galaxy Nexus weeks ago.

The iPhone's screen should be wider and iOS is just too slow to adopt features that really should be on a phone. Android covers pretty much all of the missing features from iOS. The only thing I miss on iOS is "Find My Phone" being built-in and I can do that with an Android app.

I haven't play with an Android recently, therefore I am curious to know if I am missing something, so I ask: What are those features that Android has that iOS don't?

 

[Mac.World]

I haven't play with an Android recently, therefore I am curious to know if I am missing something, so I ask: What are those features that Android has that iOS don't?

I will only speak for the S3, but here are some things it can do that an iphone can't:

I can link my phone via bt to a keyboard, mouse and tv/monitor and have the phone act like a pc. In other words, a mouse pointer pops up on screen and now the phone is essentially a pc. When I use my Apple magic mouse with it, all functionality is there, i.e. the touch interface on top of the mouse works properly with the S3. Anyway, I click on one of my office related apps, like a word doc, powerpoint, excel, pdf, google docs, what have you and simply go to work like any normal pc. Once done, save it to the phone or email it or save it to the cloud with gdrive, dropbox, etc...

I can wirelessly link my ps3 controller to my s3 and to a nice 50" tv, load up any NES, SNES, Nintendo 64 or Android Games built like Call of Duty called Modern Combat 3, NOVA 3, Shadowgun, Dead tTrigger. If you want to have game fun on a trip, just take the ps3 controller with you.

Wireless charging like the old Palm / HP phones is coming online now as aftermarket companies are beginning to sell the replaceable battery cover with the coils installed, plus the touchstone type pad you place the phone on to charge.

NFC paypass and Google Wallet. Not yet activated on the S3 due to the carriers blocking it in favor of their own NFC payment system due to come online in 2 weeks, but limited to just a couple of cities. There are work arounds, but it's a pain.

Removable battery and expandable memory.

 

[MacDawg]

1) I have an iPad, which I consider to be the best kind of tablet right now. I use it mostly for reading. I don't think Android is any good as a tablet.
2) I'd go back to iPhone if iOS improved to a certain point, so why not be one of the voices that spurs Apple to come get my dollars back someday?

That's fair enough, and I appreciate the answer

 

[McGiord]

I will only speak for the S3, but here are some things it can do that an iphone can't:

I can link my phone via bt to a keyboard, mouse and tv/monitor and have the phone act like a pc. In other words, a mouse pointer pops up on screen and now the phone is essentially a pc. When I use my Apple magic mouse with it, all functionality is there, i.e. the touch interface on top of the mouse works properly with the S3. Anyway, I click on one of my office related apps, like a word doc, powerpoint, excel, pdf, google docs, what have you and simply go to work like any normal pc. Once done, save it to the phone or email it or save it to the cloud with gdrive, dropbox, etc...

I can wirelessly link my ps3 controller to my s3 and to a nice 50" tv, load up any NES, SNES, Nintendo 64 or Android Games built like Call of Duty called Modern Combat 3, NOVA 3, Shadowgun, Dead tTrigger. If you want to have game fun on a trip, just take the ps3 controller with you.

Wireless charging like the old Palm / HP phones is coming online now as aftermarket companies are beginning to sell the replaceable battery cover with the coils installed, plus the touchstone type pad you place the phone on to charge.

NFC paypass and Google Wallet. Not yet activated on the S3 due to the carriers blocking it in favor of their own NFC payment system due to come online in 2 weeks, but limited to just a couple of cities. There are work arounds, but it's a pain.

Removable battery and expandable memory.

Thanks for the answer.

So far those things are not my priorities, but I see the benefit of having them.

How is the battery performance when doing the Bluetooth connection?
I think that with the iPhone doing something like that via Bluetooth will be very crippling.
Does it give you a decent performance when running office apps, and the games?

iOS allows the keyboard to be connected but not the mouse (will be nice to have it).
AirPlay kind of does the trick for the connection to the TV.
And the expandable storage can be achieved with Wi-Fi hard drives. Are you talking about SD cards?

Are there any other features the iPhone doesn't offer?

Some lists out there:
http://reviews.cnet.com/2300-6454_7-10002721.html

 

[Mac.World]

Thanks for the answer.

So far those things are not my priorities, but I see the benefit of having them.

How is the battery performance when doing the Bluetooth connection?
I think that with the iPhone doing something like that via Bluetooth will be very crippling.
Does it give you a decent performance when running office apps, and the games?

iOS allows the keyboard to be connected but not the mouse (will be nice to have it).
AirPlay kind of does the trick for the connection to the TV.
And the expandable storage can be achieved with Wi-Fi hard drives. Are you talking about SD cards?

Are there any other features the iPhone doesn't offer?

Some lists out there:
http://reviews.cnet.com/2300-6454_7-10002721.html

Battery performance using bluetooth does go down quicker, but not a crippling amount. Most I would see using their phone as their pc is an hour or two. I haven't needed to use it for work yet, just tested it out with my iMac's bt keyboard and magic mouse to ensure everything worked as advertised. And there is no hit in performance. Remember this phone has a very fast cpu and 2gb of RAM. It's hard to tax this phone. Even playing games like Modern Combat or NOVA3, which are very graphic intensive, don't phase the phone.

As for expandable storage, I am referring to sd cards. Online storage is okay if you have a fast and solid wifi or lte connection, but you are required to have that for online storage to work. Having a connection isn't always possible. As for the sd cards, I have a couple of 32gb ones, which are less than $30 a pop, so I can change them in andout as I see fit. One for work and one for play.

And of course, I forgot about the video overlay feature. I can watch a video, while still working on a document or playing a game, or texting. I love that pop-up feature. Good for diy projects.

Stock feature wise the S3 provides what only a jailbroken iPhone can, like changing the look of the phone via a launcher (same as Dreamboard in Cydia), access to all of your files (like iFile), attaching any type of file to an outgoing email (like the mail attach tweak in Cydia), etc... It is a long list of stuff. For me, the advantages are clear and make my life easier. I still have my iPad2, but always trying to figure out work around or opening multiple apps to do one thing is just a pain. It has come down to personal preference for me, for which I choose Android. I'm still waiting for iOS6 though to see all the features it has. And no matter what, my household will always have an iphone in it, because my wife only wants that phone and prefers iOS to Android.

Anyway, Here is a long video you can skip through to give you an idea of exactly what I am referring to. I haven't even done some of thethings this guy did: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46IiRyigUH0

 

[Grolubao]

Battery performance using bluetooth does go down quicker, but not a crippling amount. Most I would see using their phone as their pc is an hour or two. I haven't needed to use it for work yet, just tested it out with my iMac's bt keyboard and magic mouse to ensure everything worked as advertised. And there is no hit in performance. Remember this phone has a very fast cpu and 2gb of RAM. It's hard to tax this phone. Even playing games like Modern Combat or NOVA3, which are very graphic intensive, don't phase the phone.

As for expandable storage, I am referring to sd cards. Online storage is okay if you have a fast and solid wifi or lte connection, but you are required to have that for online storage to work. Having a connection isn't always possible. As for the sd cards, I have a couple of 32gb ones, which are less than $30 a pop, so I can change them in andout as I see fit. One for work and one for play.

And of course, I forgot about the video overlay feature. I can watch a video, while still working on a document or playing a game, or texting. I love that pop-up feature. Good for diy projects.

Stock feature wise the S3 provides what only a jailbroken iPhone can, like changing the look of the phone via a launcher (same as Dreamboard in Cydia), access to all of your files (like iFile), attaching any type of file to an outgoing email (like the mail attach tweak in Cydia), etc... It is a long list of stuff. For me, the advantages are clear and make my life easier. I still have my iPad2, but always trying to figure out work around or opening multiple apps to do one thing is just a pain. It has come down to personal preference for me, for which I choose Android. I'm still waiting for iOS6 though to see all the features it has. And no matter what, my household will always have an iphone in it, because my wife only wants that phone and prefers iOS to Android.

Anyway, Here is a long video you can skip through to give you an idea of exactly what I am referring to. I haven't even done some of thethings this guy did: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46IiRyigUH0

That video is impressive, the amount of stuff the S3 can do... had no clue

 

[Mac.World]

That video is impressive, the amount of stuff the S3 can do... had no clue

Most people don't. It really is an impressive phone and the only one, besides the iPhone, that actually got me excited about buying it.

 

[batting1000]

I'm referring to Windows Phone. I haven't used Windows 8 on a pc yet. I would have downloaded the preview but I didn't feel like answering tons of questions from my wife. Like you said though, if it's not easy to use Microsoft probably will lose marketshare.

The new Start screen is annoying and it feels like a second desktop (with the regular desktop). There's also the annoying Charms Bar that randomly activates if you move your mouse close to the corner of the screen. Glad I went back to vista (yes, I said Vista [wish I had 7])

 

[Mac.World]

The new Start screen is annoying and it feels like a second desktop (with the regular desktop). There's also the annoying Charms Bar that randomly activates if you move your mouse close to the corner of the screen. Glad I went back to vista (yes, I said Vista [wish I had 7])

Yep, these were some annoyances. Getting to My Computer or the task bar took some figuring out. Like I said, the Beta was not user friendly and not set up for a user to easily move around the OS, like Win7 or OSX.

 

[Renzatic]

Anyway, Here is a long video you can skip through to give you an idea of exactly what I am referring to. I haven't even done some of thethings this guy did: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46IiRyigUH0

It...it...it has a file system. On a mobile device? Wait. I'm feeling something weird. What is this? What's going on? What's this wetness on my face? Are these...tears? Tears of joy? I never knew such things were possible!

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Yep, these were some annoyances. Getting to My Computer or the task bar took some figuring out. Like I said, the Beta was not user friendly and not set up for a user to easily move around the OS, like Win7 or OSX.

(Once again) I've been using 8 since the Consumer Preview, and yeah, I'll say it was kind of annoying at first. Everything was new, different, moved around, and not what I was expecting. But after spending a couple of days using them, I actually ended up kinda liking all the new Windows 8 features. The charms bar is convenient, and the new start menu...well..I've already written up three pages worth of posts about why I like it over the old pop up start menu, so I won't go indepth here, but I do think it's a big improvement over the old.

Your mileage may vary.

That said, I think Windows 8 is a transitional OS release. Much like every time MS makes a big UI/structural change to their software, the first release is the experimentation, and the second the streamlined version everyone likes. Much like 7 is perfected Vista, Windows 9 will probably be perfected 8.

The only question is if MS can continue doing things this way with pressure from Apple and Google. They don't have nearly as much room to flub a release as they used to.

 

[scott craft]

Anyway, Here is a long video you can skip through to give you an idea of exactly what I am referring to. I haven't even done some of thethings this guy did: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46IiRyigUH0

Wow! That makes me want that phone, even though I would never do the majority of the stuff in the video. I would have never thought those things could be done on a phone.

 

[McGiord]

Thanks for that great video. Nice Rodrigo & Gabriela songs also!

I think Apple is pursuing some of these things without any cables at all.

Apple will never provide the mouse cursor on the screen natively. Maybe with an App it could be accomplished.

How the SIII was connected remotely to the desktop computer? I missed how it was done in the video.

 

[Mac.World]

Thanks for that great video. Nice Rodrigo & Gabriela songs also!

I think Apple is pursuing some of these things without any cables at all.

Apple will never provide the mouse cursor on the screen natively. Maybe with an App it could be accomplished.

How the SIII was connected remotely to the desktop computer? I missed how it was done in the video.

It isn't remotely connected to any computer. IT IS the computer. When you hook the keyboard and mouse up via bluetooth a mouse cursor automatically shows up and your phone now functions like a pc. Open apps, docs, pics, files, save, copy, etc.. All with the click of the mouse or enter text via keyboard. I believe some function keys work too, but haven't tried it out.

Basically, if you were to go to a meeting and were presenting a powerpoint or needed to view documents, arial imagery, whatever, there is no need to take a computer with you, since your phone can be one.

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I've been saying this for months now. Apple is slacking off and its going to result in a lot of people on this forum getting REALLY upset and jumping to another phone.

On September 12th, mark my words, we're gonna see a LOT of threads moved here to this Alternatives forum. iPhone users be so annoyed at the keynote that they will rant and vent all day and the mods will have a big workload that day.

I also don't believe this will happen. Tim Cook is no Steve Jobs at selling things we thought we didn't need or giving speeches that would rival those of Roosevelt or Churchill, but the presentation of iOS 6 and the iphone 5 will be good. While none of the features will be new to Android users, they will be new to Apple users and that is the demographic that will buy the new iPhone. And trust me, there are tens of millions of them around the world.

That said, I don't think this phone will sell in the numbers some are expecting. It is just too damn ugly. People will get turned off by what is just a stretched 4s.

 

[nuckinfutz]

Finding it really hard to get impressed because someone connects a cable to a smartphone. That's so 1970's.

Is this "really" the kind of exciting innovation we should be looking for in the second decade of the 21st century.

 

[Sedrick]

It isn't remotely connected to any computer. IT IS the computer. When you hook the keyboard and mouse up via bluetooth a mouse cursor automatically shows up and your phone now functions like a pc. Open apps, docs, pics, files, save, copy, etc.. All with the click of the mouse or enter text via keyboard. I believe some function keys work too, but haven't tried it out.

Basically, if you were to go to a meeting and were presenting a powerpoint or needed to view documents, arial imagery, whatever, there is no need to take a computer with you, since your phone can be one.

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I also don't believe this will happen. Tim Cook is no Steve Jobs at selling things we thought we didn't need or giving speeches that would rival those of Roosevelt or Churchill, but the presentation of iOS 6 and the iphone 5 will be good. While none of the features will be new to Android users, they will be new to Apple users and that is the demographic that will buy the new iPhone. And trust me, there are tens of millions of them around the world.

That said, I don't think this phone will sell in the numbers some are expecting. It is just too damn ugly. People will get turned off by what is just a stretched 4s.

I agree with this.

I've been adamant about my disgust with a stretched, 2" wide screen. No one asked for more height for crying out loud, on such a small screen.

It will sell, though, and it will sell good. That's just they way it is with the iPhone. It's become the Rolex watch of smartphones. It doesn't really have to change much each year for people to keep coveting it.

IMHO, it would do Apple good to have bad sales figures for this phone. Otherwise, it just encourages them to do the bare minimum with the iPhone and iOS each year.

 

[matttye]

Finding it really hard to get impressed because someone connects a cable to a smartphone. That's so 1970's.

Is this "really" the kind of exciting innovation we should be looking for in the second decade of the 21st century.

It's not the cable, it's the peripherals that you can use with it; ps3 controllers, mice, keyboards, etc.

 

[sentinelsx]

Finding it really hard to get impressed because someone connects a cable to a smartphone. That's so 1970's.

Is this "really" the kind of exciting innovation we should be looking for in the second decade of the 21st century.

I agree but i felt the same way when i had to micro manage iTunes on my windows PC to "sync" everything perfectly the way i wanted on my iPhone. Felt so old school. Even though people say drag and drop is primitive it is so much easier and all my data is actually organized the way i want without fiddling with libraries and settings on both the phone and the PC.

That is one thing Apple would need to address before i ever think of switching back.

 

[Mac.World]

Finding it really hard to get impressed because someone connects a cable to a smartphone. That's so 1970's.

Is this "really" the kind of exciting innovation we should be looking for in the second decade of the 21st century.

The cable is only too connect the phone to an hdtv. If you happen to have a Samsung smart hdtv, no wires are required.

But to your point, it's hard to be impressed with any Apple product, because every single one of them requires a cord or dongle to do the most basic things.

 

[sentinelsx]

I discovered the "nearby devices" file sharing feature yesterday in the GS3 and it was nice! All the media shows up on my home computer/laptop/HTPC connected to the TVs and i can play it without any wires or other connection mumbo jumbo. Just like the airplay feature on iOS.