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anything could happen to mini now, really. iMacs have had tradition in 1 year cycle updates but for the first time ever it's slipped now over the usual.

mini's have had those 1 year cycles too but not on timely manner, remember 2008? there was no mini that year and when the 2009 model arrived, the previous generation was already 20 months old and it was a joke really with that stupid GMA graphics.

i'm afraid the same could happen this year, maybe Apple sees no reason to upgrade. i am personally waiting for mac mini to come out too but i'd hate to wait till 2013, probably gonna buy something else as my need for new desktop grows each month more and more.
 
anything could happen to mini now, really. iMacs have had tradition in 1 year cycle updates but for the first time ever it's slipped now over the usual.

All the rumors point to an iMac update in October 2012 (maybe also updated Thunderbolt displays if some iMacs go Retina ?). Looks better than mini, at least rumor-wise.

The only "mini" we would get this year is an iPad mini, something I have no use for personally.

Oh well, hopefully 2013.
 
I'm glad my Mini is still running but it needs an update. I've considered putting a SSD into it just to feel I have something better but I don't want the trouble of going through all that. (Also a good SSD is almost worth a new basic Mini...)

I want a Mini update. It hasn't really been that long since the 2011 Model was launched, problem is I don't see a new one coming anytime soon.
 
I'm glad my Mini is still running but it needs an update. I've considered putting a SSD into it just to feel I have something better but I don't want the trouble of going through all that. (Also a good SSD is almost worth a new basic Mini...)

I want a Mini update. It hasn't really been that long since the 2011 Model was launched, problem is I don't see a new one coming anytime soon.

Spring next year.
 
Relevant quote:
"...You forget how you got to the top, and once you forget how you got to the top you forget everyone who helped you, and you forget everything that inspired you. And one morning you wake up and that inspiration and that creativity gives you the middle finger and says you forgot me, you denied me and I'm the reason for you."
 
The Mini is meant to be entry level computer. Don't expect powerful setups, or at least expect them at a very high price, where an iMac is more convenient.
Getting a PC isn't that terrible after all, if you really need a computer and can't afford a decent Mac...
 
The Mini is meant to be entry level computer. Don't expect powerful setups, or at least expect them at a very high price, where an iMac is more convenient.
Getting a PC isn't that terrible after all, if you really need a computer and can't afford a decent Mac...

Unless ones desire is to plug it into an HDTV. Or a Wacom Cintiq.
 
[please whatever you have to post, post it after you have read my thoughts, just hear me out, thats all I ask]

Apple,

I ve been your fan for quite some years
I ve always admired your innovative products and the way you thought different
but it seems as lately you have lost your focus on your true fans, and pursue a hunt to the most profit market.
That is not bad because profit is what keeps a company going.
But what seperates a company that stays loyal to their fans and just another faceless company going for profit is how loyal it stays to the customers and fans that has already created.

Of course when having 7 billion people on the planet and more than 7 billion mobile devices, with demand for more, thats the market you want to be in, I understand this.
But you simply do not forget where you came from.

My computer died on may, I decided not to purchase anything though I was in a serious need for it, till July when new mac products would be released. Nothing was announced on the WWDC. I decided to purchase a cheap pc just something to get me through the following months, and would pass it on to my father when new mac desktop computers would be announced, as he is also in a need for computer.
What does not fit in this equation is, that there is no effort that can be seen, that Apple desktop computers line is going for a refresh or even a renewal. And I m most concerned for the mini, thats why this is posted here.

In my house I have 2 TVs I use also for monitors, they are 42'' and 32'' thus I have no use for an iMac because another screen doesnot fit in my setup. My best fit is a mac mini. I love mac minis. They re small, they fit anywhere, they do not take too much place, not so many wires running around. It fits my needs perfectly! But buying a mini now, with technology of 3 years old, on that price, is just out of the question.

I hate to be that guy that always brings this up, or thinks that way, but if Steve was alive, would he have left it this like this? I truly believe no. Because as much as he knew he has to stay in the game with new technologies and trying to compete in the most emerging markets, he never forgot where he started of, and the customer base he already had.

As much as I say to myself I will wait till new mac computers come out, I really do not think I can hold on much longer. I am not the only one on this position, I know there are a lot of people with the same needs as mine. From me you are losing a purchase of a mac mini with a keyboard and a trackpad and whatever gear I would have bought down the way, plus an extra mini I would have loved to buy for my father after seeing mine. But multiply this by all the people that are on the same position as me. We have to go somewhere. If you do not give us what we need, we will have to look elsewhere.

Dont forget where you coming from Apple.

I love the mini also. I just bought the '11 version. I don't care if they release a new one right after I buy it, as I am on a 3ish-5 year upgrade cycle for Apple computers. Moral of the story, I love the mini.

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The Mini is meant to be entry level computer. Don't expect powerful setups, or at least expect them at a very high price, where an iMac is more convenient.
Getting a PC isn't that terrible after all, if you really need a computer and can't afford a decent Mac...

2.7 i7 isn't a decent Mac? I got the 2.5, but still...
 
[please whatever you have to post, post it after you have read my thoughts, just hear me out, thats all I ask]

...

Dont forget where you coming from Apple.

Well said. I'd been waiting for a long time too, but once Mountain Lion came out, I used it to build a hackintosh. If you really want a new mac, I strongly recommend this route. The tools are so good now it's about as easy as installing on a real mac (easier imo since apple took away install discs). The only trick is to do your homework and buy components that work well together.

I went for a powerhouse, an i7-3770k based machine that will outperform any mac on the market except maybe the top end pro's, and it cost about $1000. You can build a really nice hackintosh in the $500 range without too much trouble.

If Apple won't build you a decent computer, there's no reason you shouldn't go out and build your own. You even could have bought suitable components for your PC to try out that route and always have windows as a fall back plan.

I was very loyal to Apple right through my latest (2011 MBP which I adore), and I was 100% ready to buy a new mini this summer, but now that I've tasted the hackintosh fruit, I doubt I'll ever buy another apple desktop anyway.
 
Does it have USB 3? A Desktop graphics chip? Room for several hard drives, maybe an optical drive? Then no, it's not a decent mac. Any other questions?

That's the difference between a huge tower full of crap I won't use and a slim machine that meets many peoples' needs.
 
That's the difference between a huge tower full of crap I won't use and a slim machine that meets many peoples' needs.

I would say that's the difference between an obsolete pile of junk that can clunk along for grandparents to check email and a sleek, powerful, modern computer that meets many people's needs.

If lack of USB 3 meets your needs you're living in the stone age with Timmy. Especially with the tiny internal storage you get on a mini, you need fast external storage. And with tons of nice USB3 options under $100 and thunderbolt starting at $500ish, don't even go there. Besides if the mac pro doesn't have thunderbolt apple clearly doesn't intend it for high end use.
 
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I would say that's the difference between an obsolete pile of junk that can clunk along for grandparents to check email and a sleek, powerful, modern computer that meets many people's needs.

If lack of USB 3 meets your needs you're living in the stone age with Timmy. Especially with the tiny internal storage you get on a mini, you need fast external storage. And with tons of nice USB3 options under $100 and thunderbolt starting at $500ish, don't even go there. Besides if the mac pro doesn't have thunderbolt apple clearly doesn't intend it for high end use.

I use it for xCode and Objective-C development. I'm not a filmmaker and a professional video editor. It is more than adequate for a programmer for iOS, and websites.
 
The Mini is meant to be entry level computer. Don't expect powerful setups, or at least expect them at a very high price, where an iMac is more convenient.
Getting a PC isn't that terrible after all, if you really need a computer and can't afford a decent Mac...

what mac is a decent desktop or even laptop?

the retina is pretty much worthless for lots of graphics.

the graphic card is really under powered. should be a 670m or 680m.



basically the top of the line imac is okay. with its 6970m graphics card


the hexcore mac pro can run a gtx 670.

right now in all the years of mac that i have owned them 1998 til now .

macs are more out of date powerwise then ever.

there are a lot of reasons why. most pc's are not that good everyone wants a piece of the cloud so to speak.


try to find a major seller of a pc with an i7-3770k a hd7970 and a large ssd. (blu-ray optional)



alienware still has a beast of a laptop but it is crazy heavy and costs a ton.

the lack of an easy pc from a real seller allows apple to float along.

the industry is changing to little p.o.s. gear with no horsepower or really over priced laptops.

oh well
 
What the hell?

Every time I read **** like this I just have to shake my head.

If you NEED a computer, buy the damned thing. If your life or work depends on it so much that you can't go without one, you have exactly one choice- buy a replacement and deal with it.

It's not like the machine you buy today is going to magically stop working tomorrow. Apple just completed a major switch to the x86_64 architecture (which was nearly as big as the switch from PowerPC to Intel- you just didn't hear about this one because it wasn't that remarkable, even though it was just as expansive in nature), so anything you buy today will be good for years to come.

Seriously, if you're crying about unreleased products because some of Apple's stuff is a wee bit long in the tooth... Well, I don't know what to say, because the moment you buy your new machine (or your future new machine), there's going to be something else right around the corner everyone is clamouring for. And eventually you're going to be N+1 revisions out of date, because technology stops for nobody.

The Minis they're selling today go up to a dual core 2.7ghz i7 processor. They have Thunderbolt and a reasonably decent GPU for the size of the machine we're talking about. If this doesn't do what you want right now, then you shouldn't be looking at a Mini.

TLDR; if you can afford to "hold off" for the next greatest thing, then you obviously don't have a pressing need for a computer. Stop acting like the universe revolves around you, and that Apple should bend over at your whim. You don't need the latest computer to be productive. There is nothing wrong with any of the stuff Apple is selling today.

-SC
 
What the hell?

Every time I read **** like this I just have to shake my head.

If you NEED a computer, buy the damned thing. ...buy a replacement and deal with it.


TLDR; if you can afford to "hold off" for the next greatest thing, then you obviously don't have a pressing need for a computer. Stop acting like the universe revolves around you, and that Apple should bend over at your whim. You don't need the latest computer to be productive. There is nothing wrong with any of the stuff Apple is selling today.

-SC

Your reply was so unecessary and a complete waste of time, ScottishTool
 
I would say that's the difference between an obsolete pile of junk that can clunk along for grandparents to check email and a sleek, powerful, modern computer that meets many people's needs.

If lack of USB 3 meets your needs you're living in the stone age with Timmy. Especially with the tiny internal storage you get on a mini, you need fast external storage. And with tons of nice USB3 options under $100 and thunderbolt starting at $500ish, don't even go there. Besides if the mac pro doesn't have thunderbolt apple clearly doesn't intend it for high end use.

I use my minis for general mainstream gaming (blizzard products being mass marketed products that tend to be considered mainstream), media consumption, work, web surfing primarily. They excel for all of those purposes. If I leave them on all day, the power bill really doesn't reflect it. Are they fast? Fast enough for my purposes.

I'm not using the mac mini as a professional grade work station. I don't need 20 TB. I can have 2 TB internally in a 2011 model and that's fine for my mini. I don't need a tower that sounds like a wind tunnel. I'm not playing ridiculous first person shooters that high school kids play. I'm an adult, and as best as I can tell, I'm using my mini precisely as intended. If I needed something bigger, I'd consider an iMac. USB 3.0 looks neat. Realistically, I think it matters a lot more for workstation users and people that somehow need insane amounts of disk space.
 
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What the hell?

Every time I read **** like this I just have to shake my head.

If you NEED a computer, buy the damned thing. If your life or work depends on it so much that you can't go without one, you have exactly one choice- buy a replacement and deal with it.

It's not like the machine you buy today is going to magically stop working tomorrow. Apple just completed a major switch to the x86_64 architecture (which was nearly as big as the switch from PowerPC to Intel- you just didn't hear about this one because it wasn't that remarkable, even though it was just as expansive in nature), so anything you buy today will be good for years to come.

Seriously, if you're crying about unreleased products because some of Apple's stuff is a wee bit long in the tooth... Well, I don't know what to say, because the moment you buy your new machine (or your future new machine), there's going to be something else right around the corner everyone is clamouring for. And eventually you're going to be N+1 revisions out of date, because technology stops for nobody.

The Minis they're selling today go up to a dual core 2.7ghz i7 processor. They have Thunderbolt and a reasonably decent GPU for the size of the machine we're talking about. If this doesn't do what you want right now, then you shouldn't be looking at a Mini.

TLDR; if you can afford to "hold off" for the next greatest thing, then you obviously don't have a pressing need for a computer. Stop acting like the universe revolves around you, and that Apple should bend over at your whim. You don't need the latest computer to be productive. There is nothing wrong with any of the stuff Apple is selling today.

-SC

About waiting for the next thing that's around the corner etc etc etc, yes OK.

But fundamentally, you completely miss the point. There are computers with USB3 and those without. There is no talk of USB4 around the corner (doubtless that will come, but not next year and probably not for some years).

USB2 is old hat and too slow for many use-cases and also has limited power output. Fine for printing. Everything else, forget it.

Since no Thunderbolt to USB3 docks exist (and given the delays may well NEVER exist), buying a Thunderbolt-only, USB2-only computer today is borderline madness.

It is not unreasonable to be pretty annoyed at Apple not updating the desktops in so long, given this gaping functional hole in these products.
 
It is not unreasonable to be pretty annoyed at Apple not updating the desktops in so long, given this gaping functional hole in these products.
I don't disagree, though obviously Apple has no obligation to prevent us from being annoyed or to fill that hole (in my case mostly USB3). I have no problem with Apple's marketing decision to ignore my needs and I have no hesitation to move on to other vendors.

Unfortunately, every USB3 alternative I look at to the Mac mini in the price range or above has serious deficiencies. What we have here on the part of Apple is basically a monopoly of quality (value). Do we need a new Taft Hartly to prevent this abuse? An affirmative action program for other computer vendors?
 
Since no Thunderbolt to USB3 docks exist (and given the delays may well NEVER exist), buying a Thunderbolt-only, USB2-only computer today is borderline madness.

It is not unreasonable to be pretty annoyed at Apple not updating the desktops in so long, given this gaping functional hole in these products.

This is what strikes me the most. Why just not simply release simple adapter (TB-USB3), it doesn't even have to be passthrough, just one single adapter. If it can be done for Firewire 800, why not USB3?

Sure there is that GoFlex thing but if you only want to connect simple USB3 drive, it gets really expensive. Besides, you already have two TB ports on Retina Macbook and lots of users use only one display on Mac mini connected to HDMI, so the TB port stays free.

I'd seriously consider buying Mac mini Server (that I can have a great deal on) in current revision if this adapter existed. But with purchase of GoFlex thingy, the deal is not that great and I'd rather wait.
 
This thread reminds me at season 2007/2008. No new MacMini from august 2007 until spring 2009 and a lot of rumors predicting RIP MacMini - a very frustrating period for lot of people including me.

But after all I'm happy apple didn't made a new MacMini that days. From all the frustration I start my Hackintosh route and after 4 years I couldn't be more happy.
I still like (and own) my MacMini very much, it's a great computer and it always will be a great computer. But I learned that I can help myself and I can build my own custom MacMini.
It's not so small as the real MM, but it's not an ugly big box as you would guess and the best is, I get almost 14000 geek bench points from it, which is pretty nice.

My advice? Don't lament that apple didn't update MacMini for more than one year, apple is now only about phones and tablets and it would not be better in the future, so just go out and build yourself your MacMini, it's that simple.
 
. . . buying a Thunderbolt-only, USB2-only computer today is borderline madness.

Totally agree. USB3 is the sweet spot between very fast/very expensive/limited products TB and really cheap/really slow/universally found USB2. I would not get another machine without USB3.
 
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