A10X is a MONSTER

[koyoot]

Interesting. Apple cannot push enough Amps through the cores, so they can afford making them wider, to make more work with each clock cycle, than Intel, and do not have diminishing returns(the cores in Apple CPUs do not have SMT!).

My expectations for A11, will be quite low, however. IMO, We will get 2.5 GHz Smartphone CPU, dual core but with 4 threads.

 

[iPadDad]

Has there been a Geekbench test of the 12.9 yet? If so what is it called on Geekbench?

 

[fokmik]

Interesting. Apple cannot push enough Amps through the cores, so they can afford making them wider, to make more work with each clock cycle, than Intel, and do not have diminishing returns(the cores in Apple CPUs do not have SMT!).

My expectations for A11, will be quite low, however. IMO, We will get 2.5 GHz Smartphone CPU, dual core but with 4 threads.

so they go backwards? since iphone 7 has 4 cores? 2 higher clock speed and 2 lower for efficiency

 

[Kal-037]

My question... is the RAM DDR4? I remember hearing it was but one of the gerkbench scores says DDR3... anyone know for sure?

 

[koyoot]

so they go backwards? since iphone 7 has 4 cores? 2 higher clock speed and 2 lower for efficiency

Why would what I have written contradict using big.LITTLE architecture in their CPU design?

My question... is the RAM DDR4? I remember hearing it was but one of the gerkbench scores says DDR3... anyone know for sure?

Does not matter. What matters is the frequency of the RAM.

 

[high3r]

Geekbench compute score is also up for the new model. 28112 )

https://browser.primatelabs.com/v4/compute/803254

 

[canesalato]

I had to laugh at this one. Are you kidding me, there's nothing in the App Store for the iPad that will tax the new iPad Pro two or even on the iPad Pro one.

affinity, lightroom

 

[Sparky2012]

This thread is starting to make me believe THAT Geekbench score So close to getting the new 10.5" for the performance boosts and the extra RAM. Will definitely make it future proof.

 

[NT1440]

Nice analysis, but what do they do in real life? I think what is required of iPads is a disruptive new ways of doing something. I cannot replace my laptop with an ipad for business, period. Software is not there.

Sure you can't, I don't think the iPad will ever be a direct replacement for the current paradigm of work. As that changes however....

One thing I can't believe hasn't been blasting in the headlines is that for the demo it was clearly stated that this iPad does certain shading operations (this was during the lighting/pencil demo when the pirates art was made) FOUR TIMES FASTER THAN AN i7.

 

[Kulfon]

For me personally, thinner, brighter, larger, faster is a nice thing and it is obvious that with each new iteration you are getting it, but there is nothing new in terms of the use cases. So it is doing same thing (browsing, reading, playing) faster.

 

[Kal-037]

Why would what I have written contradict using big.LITTLE architecture in their CPU design?

Does not matter. What matters is the frequency of the RAM.

Just curious as what is stated here says the frequency is the normal 1600mhz instead of 1866 or newer 2133: http://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/3036382?baseline=231758
I'm not super knowledgeable on RAM specs and if they work the same in mobile devices as the do computers. The speed is NOT a deal breaker... but again, I'm just curious.


Kallum.
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For me personally, thinner, brighter, larger, faster is a nice thing and it is obvious that with each new iteration you are getting it, but there is nothing new in terms of the use cases. So it is doing same thing (browsing, reading, playing) faster.

This is a game changer for me, don't get me wrong the first gen iPP is incredibly powerful but having 120hz, P3, 600 nits, HDR, super fast CPU and GPU will definitely help with my film classes and animation, along with my random sketches and character design. The accurate colors and brightness will be especially nice.

 

[gobikerider]

Nice analysis, but what do they do in real life? I think what is required of iPads is a disruptive new ways of doing something. I cannot replace my laptop with an ipad for business, period. Software is not there.

Have you SEEN ios 11???
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My question... is the RAM DDR4? I remember hearing it was but one of the gerkbench scores says DDR3... anyone know for sure?

Ram would surely be ddr4 since the oldr models also had it

 

[MyopicPaideia]

My question... is the RAM DDR4? I remember hearing it was but one of the gerkbench scores says DDR3... anyone know for sure?

You're reading the 2012 iMac score, it had DDR3 - iPads and iPhones have had LPDDR4 memory for a couple generations now already.

 

[gobikerider]

Browsing web, scrolling through email, scrolling facebook etc. Basicly everything that requires movement uses that 120hz. Lower framerates applies only to static content or some video. Even dragging and dropping content on iOS 11 uses 120hz. Also Dynamic freshrate is designed mainly to save battery life and it's main purpose is not to increase performance.

I doubt it runs 120hz all the time I bet it's 60hz most the time which is nice considering the old 12.9 ran at 30hz a lot of time to conserve power.
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This thread is starting to make me believe THAT Geekbench score So close to getting the new 10.5" for the performance boosts and the extra RAM. Will definitely make it future proof.

I searched there is now 2 runs of that iPad both with those scores this is insane I'm getting one.

 

[nordique]

I had to laugh at this one. Are you kidding me, there's nothing in the App Store for the iPad that will tax the new iPad Pro two or even on the iPad Pro one.

Yeah. Only a handful of apps even tax the A7 and A8, never mind these new chips

This A10X is shaping up to be a very welcomed spec bump

 

[gobikerider]

Guys the leaked geekbench scores make sense if you go and look at the compare iPads website. It's roughly 2.5X faster compared to A8 and 4.3X faster compared to its gpu.

 

[Sterkenburg]

Geekbench scores of the iPad Pro 10.5 are out. It's a beast.

http://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/3036382?baseline=231758

IT'S OVER 9000!!

(but seriously, it's really amazing)

 

[jumpingjackflash]

I doubt it runs 120hz all the time I bet it's 60hz most the time which is nice considering the old 12.9 ran at 30hz a lot of time to conserve power.

Are you kidding? So you're saying that Apple is making a false statement by marketing its device 120hz when you're saying that in reality it runs 60hz most of the time? Don't you think people have right to sue Apple if what you say is true? I didn't say it runs 120hz ALL the time just in the main tasks like normal web browsing etc. So basicly all the high intense tasks are 120hz.

 

[gobikerider]

Are you kidding? So you're saying that Apple is making a false statement by marketing its device 120hz when you're saying that in reality it runs 60hz most of the time? Don't you think people have right to sue Apple if what you say is true? I didn't say it runs 120hz ALL the time just in the main tasks like normal web browsing etc. So basicly all the high intense tasks are 120hz.

Appl said the display is capable and specifically pointed out the keynote that it varies it refresh rate for the best battery life possible. If it ran 120hz 24/7 you'd have maybe 5 hour battery life. I highly doubt Apple will use the 120hz mode when a user has a word file and safari in split view and is dragging and dropping content. As far as I'm concerned it should only go to 120hz when drawing.

 

[Dave245]

I doubt it runs 120hz all the time I bet it's 60hz most the time

They did say during the keynote that it adapts to what's being used at the time, if your watching a 60hz then it will alter to 60hz or if your viewing an image at 30hz it will be 30hz. Those who have had hands on with the new iPad Pro have said the screen is great and the 120hz I'm really helps with that apparently.

 

[jumpingjackflash]

As far as I'm concerned it should only go to 120hz when drawing.

Uhmm...what? Did you even watch the keynote? They clearly stated that for example using browser is buttery smooth because of the 120hz screen. So it uses 120hz when scrolling on a browser etc.

 

[rui no onna]

Are you kidding? So you're saying that Apple is making a false statement by marketing its device 120hz when you're saying that in reality it runs 60hz most of the time? Don't you think people have right to sue Apple if what you say is true? I didn't say it runs 120hz ALL the time just in the main tasks like normal web browsing etc. So basicly all the high intense tasks are 120hz.

Uh, they specifically mentioned that as a battery saving feature of ProMotion during the keynote? We'd likely get 120Hz during UI animations, transitions, scrolling, etc. but when you're reading a static webpage, I don't see any good reason for it to be running at 120Hz.

 

[gobikerider]

Uhmm...what? Did you even watch the keynote? They clearly stated that for example using browser is buttery smooth because of the 120hz screen. So it uses 120hz when scrolling on a browser etc.

I did watch the keynote and refuse to believe they can run the screen at 120 hz for most tasks without killing the battery

 

[Skika]

I did watch the keynote and refuse to believe they can run the screen at 120 hz for most tasks without killing the battery

Why? Food for thought, they quadropled the resolution with iPad 3 while maintaning the same battery life. Why couldnt they double the frame rate now while doing the same?

 

[jumpingjackflash]

As far as I'm concerned it should only go to 120hz when drawing.

You couldn't be more wrong. Here, watch the keynote starting at 1:37:00 when they're talking about ProMotion and different refresh rates:

https://www.apple.com/apple-events/june-2017/

They clearly said: "All of your motion content on the screen is gonna be smoother, crispier and more responsive" referring to that ProMotion and 120hz.