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But in day to day usage those same Android phone seem to be snappier than the A11 phones
I guess the best argument there is battery life. My point though was perceived speed isn’t an issue anymore for most such activities. A12 is already very, very fast in that regard. That’s why on iPhone SoCs, Apple prioritized small cores not big. There are four efficiency cores and two performance cores.
Put it this way, for such basic daily activities as you descrribe, I don’t feel that even the A10 on the 7 Plus is slow on an iPhone, and that’s a four year old SoC. However, I can notice occasional pauses, which I attribute to insufficient RAM, not SoC performance.
It’s different on an iPad though. Whereas A10 is very fast with mobile websites aimed at phones for example, you now can feel some slowdowns on the desktop sites you get on iPads. It’s not bad at all on A10, but the difference can be noticeable, esp. when you multi-task. Interestingly though, multi-core largely solves this problem too, as an A10X iPad Pro feels faster for surfing desktop sites than A10 does.
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Meanwhile, some Twitter user is claiming the iPhone 12 mini will have a lower performance chip called B14, postulated to be a downclocked version of A14.
Apple will reportedly use a scaled-down version of the A14 Bionic on the iPhone 12 Mini
The soon-to-be-released iPhone 12 Mini will allegedly run a scaled-down version of the A14 Bionic. Dubbed as the Apple B14, the chip will also appear alongside subsequent variants of the iPhone SE. The B14 is, in all likelihood, an underclocked A14 Bionic fine-tuned for efficiency instead of...www.notebookcheck.net
Yeah sorry I don’t believe this bs regarding the B14. And other well known leakers haven’t mentioned it’s existence, otherwise it would have been reported long ago instead of this month not to mention I have never heard of this twitter user before
Apple doesn’t really need a mid range chip version of the A14. The A12 feels mid range enough as it is since it’s more stable than other mid range ones from Qualcomm
EDIT: the site says that several users accused Apple of underclocking the A13 of the SE when the SE isn’t underclocked (otherwise it would be less than 2.66 GHz not the same speed as the 11 series 🤦♂️) gives me more reason to suspect this B14 is fake news
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Suspect the A14 is crippled by power limit in the phone(s) due to smaller battery and 5G radio meaning apple are chasing battery life (by limiting the power available to the processor).
I suspect it will be very different when its in an iPad or another variant in an iPad Pro or Mac due to the larger power and thermal budget available.
I suspect it will be very different when its in an iPad or another variant in an iPad Pro or Mac due to the larger power and thermal budget available.
The OnePlus 8 maybe (excellent phone that is), but not the others. My iPhone 8 Plus is snappier than my wife’s Galaxy S20 plus, which she noticed herself as she used my 8 plus for a couple of months prior to getting the Galaxy. Maybe this is due to the gimped Exynos processor I don’t know for sure. Further to this my 6s plus is as snappy as my 8 plus, so where does it end...
I have an iPhone 8 plus and it's not snappier than my Galaxy S10 so not sure where it begins actually
It's not that hard to imagine that apple could use some lower binned A14 chips as a "B14". QC has been doing it for a long time because it's cheap.
BTW, Apple had downclocked their chips before on the ipod touch with the A8 and A10.
And they are underclocked to preserve that tiny battery it has otherwise if they were the same speed as it’s other A8 cousins the battery would deplete more quickly
Also underclocking is one thing, in this case both iPod Touch’s still had the same high end processors of its time compared to its other A8/A10 brethren. I’d rather see Apple give a high end processor which would have to be underclocked than a mid range chip altogether
Qualcomm's primary market is chips. Their market includes smartphones priced under $200. Apple sells a very high margin product and can absorb or pass on costs.
Every iPod Touch uses underclocked silicon, from A4 to A10. The iPod uses iPhone 5 optics and display for music. There's no need for any real horsepower.
Apple's speciality is selling a product as a complete solution. They don't need to confuse consumers with a new category of "B" chips when they can simply underclock (assuming that's even necessary).
Exactly 100%.
Well only with the iPod Touch line I suppose they would have that option unless one day they don’t underclock it
I agree with this. They would likely still just call it A14. However, to be clear, I doubt think the 5.4” will have an underclocked A14 either. My guess is that it would just be the regular A14.
Here we go:
Geekbench 5 is 1583 / 4198. 😳
Geekbench 5 is 1583 / 4198. 😳
Yes, very fast, but it’s pretty much as expected given what Apple said at the September event.Good scores! Multi higher than I expected
However, GPU is very fast, slightly faster than A12Z, assuming this is truly legit.
This bodes well for the Arm Macs.
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EDIT my post : Most of servers using A12 from iphone a than calculated A14 vs A13 difference (about 13% higher)
Because A12 - 2462 x 1,4 = 3500 / A13 - 3010 = 14,6% faster
But A12 in iPad Air has higher score than A12 in iPhone...
So - from Apple presentation - "40-percent faster than the A12"
ipad Air - Apple A12 Bionic @ 2.5 GHz - 2832 - A14 Multicore 4200 - 48%...
Seems legit
Because A12 - 2462 x 1,4 = 3500 / A13 - 3010 = 14,6% faster
But A12 in iPad Air has higher score than A12 in iPhone...
So - from Apple presentation - "40-percent faster than the A12"
ipad Air - Apple A12 Bionic @ 2.5 GHz - 2832 - A14 Multicore 4200 - 48%...
Seems legit
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iPhone XS A12 - 2902EDIT my post : Most of servers using A12 from iphone a than calculated A14 vs A13 difference (about 13% higher)
Because A12 - 2462 x 1,4 = 3500 / A13 - 3010 = 14,6% faster
But A12 in iPad Air has higher score than A12 in iPhone...
So - from Apple presentation - "40-percent faster than the A12"
ipad Air - Apple A12 Bionic @ 2.5 GHz - 2832 - A14 Multicore 4200 - 48%...
Seems legit
4198 / 2902 = 44.7%
That chart always underestimates the performance, because it uses an average that includes much slower results.
I don't like it. Seems like they are relying entirely on higher clocks instead of architectural improvements.
Last year they did the same and the A13 saw an efficiency regression compared to A12. Granted, this time is a new node, but battery capacity is also rumored to be lower in the 12 line up...
It's definitely faster but I was hoping for efficiency this time :/ Hope to be wrong and we get both
Metal scores are insaaaane tho. +70% higher than A13.
But it's weird that the antutu result didn't reflect it. A fake perhaps?
Last year they did the same and the A13 saw an efficiency regression compared to A12. Granted, this time is a new node, but battery capacity is also rumored to be lower in the 12 line up...
It's definitely faster but I was hoping for efficiency this time :/ Hope to be wrong and we get both
Metal scores are insaaaane tho. +70% higher than A13.
But it's weird that the antutu result didn't reflect it. A fake perhaps?
In addition to the CPU increase due to clock speed, IPC has increased as well over A13, around 5-6%.I don't like it. Seems like they are relying entirely on higher clocks instead of architectural improvements.
Last year they did the same and the A13 saw an efficiency regression compared to A12. Granted, this time is a new node, but battery capacity is also rumored to be lower in the 12 line up...
It's definitely faster but I was hoping for efficiency this time :/ Hope to be wrong and we get both
Metal scores are insaaaane tho. +70% higher than A13.
But it's weird that the antutu result didn't reflect it. A fake perhaps?
Also, there has been a big increase in overall Metal performance.
We still don’t know much yet. I would assume that they would have to have much lower power consumption to offset 5g.I don't like it. Seems like they are relying entirely on higher clocks instead of architectural improvements.
Last year they did the same and the A13 saw an efficiency regression compared to A12. Granted, this time is a new node, but battery capacity is also rumored to be lower in the 12 line up...
It's definitely faster but I was hoping for efficiency this time :/ Hope to be wrong and we get both
Metal scores are insaaaane tho. +70% higher than A13.
But it's weird that the antutu result didn't reflect it. A fake perhaps?
EDIT my post : Most of servers using A12 from iphone a than calculated A14 vs A13 difference (about 13% higher)
Because A12 - 2462 x 1,4 = 3500 / A13 - 3010 = 14,6% faster
But A12 in iPad Air has higher score than A12 in iPhone...
So - from Apple presentation - "40-percent faster than the A12"
ipad Air - Apple A12 Bionic @ 2.5 GHz - 2832 - A14 Multicore 4200 - 48%...
Seems legit
A12 is clocked higher on iPad than A12 iPhones because of the thermals I believe. More/bigger thermals> better performance (but not by much)
I don't like it. Seems like they are relying entirely on higher clocks instead of architectural improvements.
Last year they did the same and the A13 saw an efficiency regression compared to A12. Granted, this time is a new node, but battery capacity is also rumored to be lower in the 12 line up...
It's definitely faster but I was hoping for efficiency this time :/ Hope to be wrong and we get both
Metal scores are insaaaane tho. +70% higher than A13.
But it's weird that the antutu result didn't reflect it. A fake perhaps?
Never ever use anututu or say the name again. It never works well on iOS
Benchmarks are just numbers. We won't know till we get the phone and see it for ourselves. When it comes to thermals, I feel that if iphones have a cooling solution, it could do even better. I am secretly hoping for apple to put in vapour chamber cooling into iphones/ipads some day. They have powerful processors, but no cooling solutions. Imagine Apple's optimisations combined with higher peak performance.