Absolutely RIDICULOUS iMac M1 Shipping Delays

[4743913]

Bad advice. That is being dishonest and could cause the customer to get banned from Apple.

how is that dishonest? we know people who buy two machines, test them, make videos, maybe send one back or both back and do it again. The 14 day window is there for a reason. Just change models each time if you feel guilty. Apple gave a ship date, he planned accordingly, they reneged. Yeah and I don't care what the reasons are either. Covid, container shortage, chip shortage.. understandable to fudge the date a week or two, but adding months is bushleague. If his job, education, or livelyhood depends on it, he should definitely do it.

oh and "banned from Apple"? what does that even mean? 😂😂😂

 

[SegNerd]

Bad advice. That is being dishonest and could cause the customer to get banned from Apple.

Yeah, swapping a new Mac every 14 days is almost as crazy as leasing a new car every six months!

*Just kidding, I know he paid for the leases

 

[Realityck]

how is that dishonest? we know people who buy two machines, test them, make videos, maybe send one back or both back and do it again. The 14 day window is there for a reason. Just change models each time if you feel guilty. Apple gave a ship date, he planned accordingly, they reneged. Yeah and I don't care what the reasons are either. Covid, container shortage, chip shortage.. understandable to fudge the date a week or two, but adding months is bushleague. If his job, education, or livelyhood depends on it, he should definitely do it.

oh and "banned from Apple"? what does that even mean? 😂😂😂

Any store chain likely has a policy for dealing with a Serial Returner. see Recurring Refunds: How Retailers Can Deal with ‘Serial Returners’

From the article

In 2018, Amazon instituted a lifetime ban on customers who habitually return merchandise. The company’s decision prompted other retailers to review their return policy templates.

BTW returns of computers are costly to the store. It not like stick it back in the same box with a discount sticker for Apple to utilize.

I could see a consumer trying a couple of computers sometimes, and some of the YouTube reviewers have arrangements with loaners from Apple not that they are just buying and returning computers frequently.

 

[Lihp8270]

Any store chain likely has a policy for dealing with a Serial Returner.

BTW returns of computers are costly to the store. It not like stick it back in the same box with a discount sticker for Apple to utilize.

I could see a consumer trying a couple of computers sometimes, and some of the YouTube reviewers have arrangements with loaners from Apple not that they are just buying and returning computers frequently.

There was one on here recently that got banned from purchasing from apple online.

 

[4743913]

There was one on here recently that got banned from purchasing from apple online.

sounds like best buy, amazon, or some other retailer will be getting their business in the future. I doubt one can really be "banned from Apple".

 

[4743913]

Any store chain likely has a policy for dealing with a Serial Returner. see Recurring Refunds: How Retailers Can Deal with ‘Serial Returners’

Two returns is hardly serial. if Apple delivers his mac on Aug 15, he should be good with only two returns which I doubt will trigger these imaginary nightmare scenarios everyone is feverishly typing out... 😀

 

[SegNerd]

sounds like best buy, amazon, or some other retailer will be getting their business in the future. I doubt one can really be "banned from Apple".

I don’t know about Apple, but if you get banned from Amazon, you are really banned. Your name, your credit card, your address - banned, banned, banned. They don’t fool around with this stuff. It’s certainly possible to really ban someone.

Even if they just ban your AppleID and let you back in, you will lose all the purchases you have ever made.

 

[eltoslightfoot]

Ignore those who might suggest you're the one to blame for selling the old system too quickly - it must be great to have perfect hindsight in advance, but for the rest of us, there's always a risk of making a mistake when you take information you're given at face value that turns out not to be accurate.

But indeed, no point in cancelling because it's only yourself you'll hurt. And given the pace of deliveries seems to be picking up for many BTO options, it's likely the VESA mount in your case is the culprit with this order. In other circumstances I'd be inclined to suggest you see if an order for a similar model but with standard mount might ship faster, or even be available locally, because there are likely to be third-party mounting options that could be used subsequently, or you might be able to beg or borrow a Mac from family or friends to tide you over for a month.

Ultimately though you just have to console yourself that it is only a month, and that there remains a possibility, however slim, that it will ship early. I suspect that with the early rush now settling down, Apple are more likely than not by now to have a pretty clear idea of when individual BTO options will be ready for shipment, but you never know.

Alienware and Lenovo are saying 4+ MONTHS out on BTO....

 

[4743913]

I don’t know about Apple, but if you get banned from Amazon, you are really banned. Your name, your credit card, your address - banned, banned, banned. They don’t fool around with this stuff. It’s certainly possible to really ban someone.

Even if they just ban your AppleID and let you back in, you will lose all the purchases you have ever made.

You know that amazon just sells stuff that you can buy elsewhere right?

I know people who have never used an apple id and wouldn't be caught with an app that could only be gotten from the AppStore. It really is amazing how Apple has indoctrinated a whole generation of users that are afraid of the company that sold them a piece of hardware, like that company has the power to reach out and flip the off switch at any time.

 

[SegNerd]

You know that amazon just sells stuff that you can buy elsewhere right?

I know people who have never used an apple id and wouldn't be caught with an app that could only be gotten from the AppStore. It really is amazing how Apple has indoctrinated a whole generation of users that are afraid of the company that sold them a piece of hardware, like that company has the power to reach out and flip the off switch at any time.

If you want to take your phone completely “off the grid,” good luck to you. You’d better hope they keep finding ways to jailbreak.

 

[4743913]

If you want to take your phone completely “off the grid,” good luck to you. You’d better hope they keep finding ways to jailbreak.

Im talking about computers.

 

[poked]

You know that amazon just sells stuff that you can buy elsewhere right?

I know people who have never used an apple id and wouldn't be caught with an app that could only be gotten from the AppStore. It really is amazing how Apple has indoctrinated a whole generation of users that are afraid of the company that sold them a piece of hardware, like that company has the power to reach out and flip the off switch at any time.

Tesla does: what’s preventing Apple from also doing so? The user end agreement pretty much allows Apple to discontinue production or support for any machine they seems deviance from their product design, as any sane company would.
To the OP: I work in the car industry. You have to wait two months for a pc, we have to wait twelve for five news cars. We have sixteen new on the lot. We sell those cars, we lose out on revenue because we cant replace them continually in the cyclical nature of a car dealership. Do you think we enjoy waiting for inventory to fill out? No, because it sells before we can replenish. It’s absolutely suffering for our business. But that’s what an order is: a promise of the product you wanted delivered. It’ll happen, you just have to wait it out, same as any industry that relies on those chips.

 

[Ethosik]

You should have been aware of the chip shortage, COVID still causing issues with supply chains, and more things going on in the world at the moment.

I mean I have been searching for NVIDIA and AMD GPUs since they launched months and months ago, I have been searching for an Xbox Series X or PS5 for months as well. Nothing....notta. My Apple products have been taking a month or two. Heck even Home Depot shipments have gotten much worse. This is a bad time in general.

Ford shutting down some stores/factories since they can't get enough components. Heck even my local pool company is suffering from the chip shortage and we were on a delay for a replacement component.

Some pre-built gaming PCs (only real option to get a good GPU these days) on some sites is 2 or 3 months!

 

[4743913]

Tesla does: what’s preventing Apple from also doing so?

I totally believe that Apple's endgame is to lock the mac within the walled garden that the iPhone/iPad exists in. If that happens, of course they will be able to do it. But right now, macs work fine with no apple id, icloud, etc. I only have a few apps that come from the AppStore like Logic Pro and FinalCut Pro, and they are easy to replace. If Apple doesn't bribe the government and we get Right to Repair, Apple will lose some of their power.

People that clamor for more control by apple to thwart the boogie man of "malware" and "virus" are just sheep looking for a shepherd..

 

[poked]

I totally believe that Apple's endgame is to lock the mac within the walled garden that the iPhone/iPad exists in. If that happens, of course they will be able to do it. But right now, macs work fine with no apple id, icloud, etc. I only have a few apps that come from the AppStore like Logic Pro and FinalCut Pro, and they are easy to replace. If Apple doesn't bribe the government and we get Right to Repair, Apple will lose some of their power.

People that clamor for more control by apple to thwart the boogie man of "malware" and "virus" are just sheep looking for a shepherd..

I’m worried about this as well. I hope lobbying for RTR will be a step against the ecosystem that makes Apple so unfriendly to those who need difficult work done is design programs that are only windows available. I can’t imagine not being able to take the guts out of a windows machine and still have it able to function the day it was purchased. Im really not looking forward to our Apple overlords shutting down our devices on a whim because they think they’re “outdated”. What a frustration.

 

[chrono1081]

A lot of people are attacking but it seems no one stopped to explain that the reasoning most likely right now is out of Apples control. A ton of parts are really hard to get right now due to Covid and some areas not being opened back up. This has affected all kinds of industries not just computers (skates for example are very hard to get right now).

It sucks waiting but you'll be really happy once it arrives, they're beautiful machines.

 

[4743913]

A ton of parts are really hard to get right now due to Covid and some areas not being opened back up. This has affected all kinds of industries not just computers (skates for example are very hard to get right now).

It sucks waiting but you'll be really happy once it arrives, they're beautiful machines.

As I said in my earlier post, I don't care what the excuse is.. They need to quit giving imginary shipping dates. They are being dishonest with their creeping delays of two weeks at a time. Apple knows exactly how long its going to take. They are just stringing buyers along..

 

[eltoslightfoot]

As I said in my earlier post, I don't care what the excuse is.. They need to quit giving imginary shipping dates. They are being dishonest with their creeping delays of two weeks at a time. Apple knows exactly how long its going to take. They are just stringing buyers along..

It is affecting ALL BTO machines at every vendor.

 

[Freida]

The whole world is facing shortages of everything and here you are complaining about a delay on your fancy new computer.
Gotta love internet.

Hi all,

I’ve read about the delays to the iMac being a few weeks - but mine has slipped into the months category!!

Okay, so it’s a BTO… but still!

I ordered the 24” M1 iMac (8c) in Green with the VESA mount option. Upped the RAM to 16gb and upped the SSD to 1TB. Didn’t order at the same time as some of you as it took me a bit of time debating between whether this ’smaller’ 24 would suffice when I’m used to the 27” 5K - but after some deliberating and using one, took the plunge. (I’m in the UK btw)

So ordered on 26th May 2021 and received a ship date of 8th July!! That was then pushed back to a firm 15th July with the Apple Store chat person confirming that it would ship before that date to arrive at that time.

Then this week, I get a text (and email) from Apple… started to get excited as just assumed it would be the one to say the product has shipped. To my flipping disbelief… the date has now been pushed BACK to 15th August!!!

Are you serious!!??

A friend orders a Mac Mini just yesterday and gets a ship date of 20th July - and that’s a BTO too!

I know what some of you will say… Nice machine - and you’ll love it when you get it! But that’s not the point. (What’s not helped is that I sold my Late 2015 27” 5K iMac in preparation for the new one arriving on 8th July - got £750 for that so wanted to sell before the buyer changed his mind!! But now I’m Mac-less and suffering)

The date is stretching in the complete wrong direction… and always in the back of my mind is the real possibility of Apple dropping some 27” M1X model just as I receive this one - and then the hassle of returning, re-ordering and another lengthy wait!!?? 🤷‍♂️

Thoroughly hacked off with this situation at the mo - but stuck in limbo. Wanna cancel out of anger - but that would only put me back to square one and in a worse position!

 

[coso]

They really should have made the 16GB option readily available and NOT built to order. Not in 2021

 

[poked]

With what chips, pray tell? Are they just sitting in them and the 16GB?

 

[coso]

With what chips, pray tell? Are they just sitting in them and the 16GB?

Chip shortage is not the reason. They would have done the same even if they had plenty, just as they did selling 16GB iPhones or 128GB Airs when it wasn't appropriate. Also a BTO forces you to buy directly from Apple, instead than on electronic chains where sometimes they do big discounts on Macs. But if you want 16GB you must buy from mama Apple. It's a business choice.

 

[pmiles]

I’m worried about this as well. I hope lobbying for RTR will be a step against the ecosystem that makes Apple so unfriendly to those who need difficult work done is design programs that are only windows available. I can’t imagine not being able to take the guts out of a windows machine and still have it able to function the day it was purchased. Im really not looking forward to our Apple overlords shutting down our devices on a whim because they think they’re “outdated”. What a frustration.

The problem with the Right to Repair movement is that it's not going to do what you think it is. It will only allow third-parties access to the same documentation and repair parts as Apple does. Meaning instead of going to an Apple Authorized Repair Facility, you could go to the Mom and Pop shop down the street to have the same repairs done. It will not make the computers any more upgradeable than they currently are. So if Apple decides to make the device completely unrepairable, then no one can repair it.

If your looking for cheese-grater level of user upgradeability, this movement doesn't address that at all.

 

[poked]

The problem with the Right to Repair movement is that it's not going to do what you think it is. It will only allow third-parties access to the same documentation and repair parts as Apple does. Meaning instead of going to an Apple Authorized Repair Facility, you could go to the Mom and Pop shop down the street to have the same repairs done. It will not make the computers any more upgradeable than they currently are. So if Apple decides to make the device completely unrepairable, then no one can repair it.

If your looking for cheese-grater level of user upgradeability, this movement doesn't address that at all.

Well, I knew that I’d be buying into a lack of upgradability when I hit the order button on my iMac, so as long as it can do what I need it to do out-the-box, I don’t think I’ll be as affected as a software developer would be. But it’s always a gamble to buy a system that doesn’t have native upgrade ability physically because then you’re stuck in the rat race of having to make SURE your computer doesn’t get messed up to keep it going as long as possible, which updates make more difficult. Bleh. I love Apple, but it has so many flaws.

 

[Realityck]

They really should have made the 16GB option readily available and NOT built to order. Not in 2021

You can look up a 8/8/16GB/1TB Blue or Silver and see if its in stock online for pickup at an Apple Store you know. Yeah its not a BTO, standard stock. You need to check the $1699 choice with options. They don't get many in, and they sell fast.