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Sounds like it's locking out exactly the kind of people it's supposed to lock out. I've been pretty hard on Apple on their antics and incompetence, but kudos on this one.
It's also a problem for people who trade in phones to their carrier, but forget to turn off FindMy before wiping the device. This happened to a T-Mobile customer on the T-Mobile subreddit and they had to get Apple customer service involved. The process of removing that phone from FindMy had to be remote because T-Mobile refused to ship the phone back (they had no process for that) and they would not give the customer credit for their trade because FindMy was on.
 
That’s why eBay has their guarantee. Extenuating circumstances or not, the seller could have checked by plugging it in. In all likelihood you bought a stolen phone and you waited too long. It’s not like Apple hasn’t put out support articles or never mentioned it. Any reputable reseller checks a device before listing it.

Regardless, as others have mentioned there are tools that can bypass activation lock on older devices. Use your resources. Like google. Complaining about a genuinely helpful feature that has reduced iPhone theft is ridiculous and you can’t blame anyone because you didn’t bother to plug the device in when you got it. Even an iPhone with a bad battery will boot up when plugged in. Sorry to say, this is on you.
I did bother to plug it in when I got it. It was stuck on the connect to computer screen. When trying to restore I kept getting 4013 error codes (hardware error). The battery replacement was the solution to the hardware error and then it allowed me to see that it was activation locked.
 
Seems like an eBay issue at most, not an Apple issue

Activation locks aren’t stupid, they’re an essential tool to reduce phone theft and protect users. What’s really unwise is buying a used phone off eBay and not checking if it’s activation locked for months. This delay made your situation worse.

Rather than blaming Apple for implementing a system that benefits most, perhaps the takeaway should be: “Lesson learned! check for activation locks immediately when purchasing a used device.” For an old phone that’s worth what $50, this situation may not justify such frustration or even a post, but it does underline the importance of being cautious with secondhand purchases.

Hope this experience helps others avoid the same mistake, but blaming the tool designed to protect people is misplaced.
The delay did make it worse. But this was a situation where it couldn’t be immediately checked, otherwise I would have and this post wouldn’t exist. Even outside of this circumstance, activation lock still fails to stop a lot of theft and makes perfectly good devices useless. eBay is filled with devices like that, and they’re gonna be torn apart for parts, just like most stolen devices will be.
 
Or am I missing something?
Yes…when the T-Mobile customer restored the device, it disappeared from their Apple ID. Apple got involved because they somehow had to put the device back on the person's account so FindMy could be remotely removed from the device - or something. That point wasn't exactly clear to me.

Your solution, is the same I was going to suggest. But in laying out the problem that is when the customer said it had dropped off their account. How do you remove a device from FindMy that is no longer on your account?

Whether any of this is possible or true, I don't know for certain. I just read through the thread on the subreddit.

EDIT: Here we go…

 
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Honestly, I feel the exact opposite. Activation locks combined with deleting my data after 10 failed passcode attempts are awesome features that make me feel much more secure.

It's nice to know that it makes my device almost worthless to steal, and even if someone does they'll have gone to the trouble for little or no benefit.
 
A little off topic but this is so incorrect.

I wish it weren't. I too assumed that Activation Lock was the final solution to the stolen phone epidemic..

However nowadays it's beyond a joke in places like London. Thousands upon thousands of phones snatched from people's hands... worse than its ever been and this is all whilst phones are so-called activation locked.

I have no idea how or why its so lucrative to steal them, but I understand many end up abroad stripped for parts.

Activation lock has not worked - at least not in the sense that it deters theft.

I live in London. The problem with iPhones getting nicked in London is mostly idiots. Yes I'm victim blaming my fellow London idiots. Granted the criminals have most of the responsibility but it's the victims who create the market by being utter unadulterated drooling morons.

Firstly everyone ambles around with their phones in front of their faces with the speaker phone on at bus stops with it sticking out. I don't know why people do this. We have pockets, you can use it next to your head and they sell these things called airpods now. They have no situational awareness at all. Whack, phone gone.

Secondly on more targeted attacks, some people don't set up Face ID because they got told on some youtube channel that the IR laser causes sight damage (seen this thrice now). So they sit there entering their PIN in plain sight in front of people over and over and over again all day every day. Whack, phone gone.

Thirdly people don't have their phones set up properly and they are swiped while they are still unlocked. The thieves immediately put airplane mode on so they disappear off Find My and usually can get into insecure banking apps and paypal etc without authentication. Whack, money gone.

None of these things are a problem if you take a few basic precautions and develop some situational awareness.

Activation lock is not about protecting anyone from these vectors. It's about when you are one of the above idiots and drop your phone in the street, because of course when you do all those things you use it without a case, and smash the screen. You don't go to Apple because you didn't buy AppleCare and parts are expensive there. So you go down to the local hooky phone shop who will put a screen on it for you. Prior to application lock, a huge chunk of those screens were from stolen phones. Now they are third party ones and the phone tells you that it's a third party one. So when you get a new shiny one the next person knows they are being sold a frankenphone with crap in it, not something masquerading as a reasonable phone but is made of stolen body parts.

Edit: a final comment on my fellow Londoners. In recent travels around the UK and the rest of the world, I barely see anyone walking around with airpods in or using their phone. It's bad in London because everyone is semi-tied to the things all the time.
 
I didn’t sell, give away, or trade the iDevice in question.
 
There's too many things here that don't add up.
You bought a used iPhone off eBay, ostensibly as a good phone and not a "for parts/as-is", plugged it in when you got it, saw it had a hardware error, then chucked it in a drawer for three months until you could get a new battery and hoped for the best? If it wasn't a for-parts sale you should have sent it back the moment it threw an error.
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The delay did make it worse. But this was a situation where it couldn’t be immediately checked, otherwise I would have and this post wouldn’t exist. Even outside of this circumstance, activation lock still fails to stop a lot of theft and makes perfectly good devices useless. eBay is filled with devices like that, and they’re gonna be torn apart for parts, just like most stolen devices will be.
It does stop countless thefts. At this point they’re sold to people who think they’re perfectly good devices. But it’s not a perfectly good device, that’s the whole point. It’s a brick. At this stage it’s sold for parts or passed off to the next sucker on eBay.

I’m sorry people are so dishonest, but this one isn’t Apple’s fault. It’s just a tough lesson.
 
It does stop countless thefts. At this point they’re sold to people who think they’re perfectly good devices. But it’s not a perfectly good device, that’s the whole point. It’s a brick. At this stage it’s sold for parts or passed off to the next sucker on eBay.

I’m sorry people are so dishonest, but this one isn’t Apple’s fault. It’s just a tough lesson.
It’s not that bad. I lost like $20 including the battery, no big deal. It’s just annoying and wasteful that an otherwise good device is useless because people forget to remove it from their account when they upgrade. It is in no way Apple’s fault, I’m just saying Apple could help people remember to remove their old device when they upgrade them.
 
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There's too many things here that don't add up.
You bought a used iPhone off eBay, ostensibly as a good phone and not a "for parts/as-is", plugged it in when you got it, saw it had a hardware error, then chucked it in a drawer for three months until you could get a new battery and hoped for the best? If it wasn't a for-parts sale you should have sent it back the moment it threw an error.
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I bought it with the main goal of fixing it, so the hardware error didn’t bother me too much. It was listed as broken, just without the iCloud lock part. I went for it cause the physical condition was top notch and it was cheap.
 
Apple put activation lock exactly for this situation, so people can’t sell stolen devices. Sounds to me OP got a stolen device with bad battery on purpose. If I got a phone with faulty battery I would contact seller and eBay. Why do you replace battery unless you bought an as is phone with no liability for seller.

This is a good lesson for people buying phones on eBay and other market places. If the phone doesn’t work, bad battery or activation lock or what ever, contact seller and eBay to get money back. If you want to gamble on devices sold as is, you should be prepared to lose money.
 
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Dear MacRumors of Endless Patience,

I bought an iPhone SE1 on eBay for $20, including the battery replacement, and I’m annoyed it’s Activation Locked. Working SE1s sell for between $50 and $100, so naturally I assumed this deal was completely legit and didn’t bother checking for months. Now I have a useless brick because the original owner (likely the victim of theft but whatevs) forgot to remove the device from their account before upgrading.

Clearly the real issue here is Apple not sending reminders to theft victims to unlock their devices for the convenience of people buying questionable phones off eBay. I mean, how else am I supposed to get a perfectly good phone for $20?
 
Apple put activation lock exactly for this situation, so people can’t sell stolen devices. Sounds to me OP got a stolen device with bad battery on purpose. If I got a phone with faulty battery I would contact seller and eBay. Why do you replace battery unless you bought an as is phone with no liability for seller.

This is a good lesson for people buying phones on eBay and other market places. If the phone doesn’t work, bad battery or activation lock or what ever, contact seller and eBay to get money back. If you want to gamble on devices sold as is, you should be prepared to lose money.
While I am not defending the OP, there is a possibility that the seller had a bad battery to begin with and was upgrading. So they might have put it up on eBay but forgot to turn off FindMy. That exact same situation occurred with a T-Mobile customer (as I mentioned earlier) who was trading in their device.

How likely is this? I don't know, but it's possible.

As to getting a phone with a faulty battery…I've done that. On eBay. September of 2023 I bought a good condition iPhone 6 Plus. The only issue noted was a bad mic jack. Nothing was said about the battery. But I figured I'd have to replace that anyway and I was right. But I got the phone because it was cheap, had no Activation lock and was fully carrier unlocked. And I wanted it. A new battery cost more than the phone. All the way around though, I think I got a good deal on a used 6 Plus in pretty good condition.

Perhaps that was what OP was hoping for, again IDK. I just think OP fumbled the followup.
 
I’m all in for making stolen devices unusable, especially if the user has blocked it through Find My. And, in this case, even for parts, rendering them unusable. It will discourage the thieves. And if current lock is not enough, then I’d ask Apple to harden the lock, even if that means implementing specific hardware on the SoC.

There are software tools that can bypass / remove activation lock on older, discontinued / vintage devices. Google and ye shall find.
Honestly… I don’t want to have any controversial argument with you, because you’ve helped me in the past on this forum, but I still believe that we shouldn’t help those seeking to break the activation lock, other than encouraging them to go ask Apple to unlock the device if it’s true that it’s not a stolen device. And if it happens to be a stolen one, then better for the original owner I guess.

Obviously this isn’t too big of a deal for a 2016 OG iPhone SE, but imagine it is an iPhone 13, 14, 15 or even a new 16. You could be the original owner, would you help him?
 
I bought it with the main goal of fixing it, so the hardware error didn’t bother me too much. It was listed as broken, just without the iCloud lock part. I went for it cause the physical condition was top notch and it was cheap.
Used to be you could enter a serial on Apple's website and see if it was locked or not. But there was a MESS of iPad minis shipped to China where they'd "Try" various random serial numbers until an unlocked one was found, then burn that serial onto the mini & resell it.

Which worked fine, until the random serial number they used was ACTUALLY sold, and the new owner found that it was Activation Locked to the person who bought the used mini 🤦🏻‍♂️

So the online checker was eliminated. That's why we can't have nice things.
 
Don’t buy Apple products on eBay or Facebook marketplace unless you perform the transaction at an Apple Store and have Apple verify it’s legit and not locked. Otherwise you’re certainly going to run into Activation Lock since 90% of devices on those two platforms are generally stolen.

You may think activation lock is pointless since phones are parted out but Activation Lock ensures that the average person who fins a lost phone will more likely return it or make an effort to do so than if Activation Lock wasn’t in place.

People who are stealing phones out of pockets and peoples hands are a different story and I don’t think that’s the intended target for Activation Lock’s use and purpose.
 
Don’t buy Apple products on eBay or Facebook marketplace unless you perform the transaction at an Apple Store and have Apple verify it’s legit and not locked. Otherwise you’re certainly going to run into Activation Lock since 90% of devices on those two platforms are generally stolen.
I'm an exception then I guess. I bought an AT&T iPhone 6 Plus on eBay in September 2023. It was advertised as clean (no blacklist, no activation lock) and carrier unlocked. The only thing they didn't mention was the battery and I expected to have to replace that (which I did).

The moment I got it, I reset it and no activation lock. Put my T-Mobile SIM in and no issue. Made a call, checked email and a couple of websites all on cellular. Again, no problems.

I do not routinely buy phones off eBay and I've never done it to get a primary phone. This 6 Plus isn't even a backup to my backup. Maybe I was lucky, IDK. But I did check things out first and I would have sent it back if it'd been locked in any way.
 
Seems like an eBay issue at most, not an Apple issue

Activation locks aren’t stupid, they’re an essential tool to reduce phone theft and protect users. What’s really unwise is buying a used phone off eBay and not checking if it’s activation locked for months. This delay made your situation worse.

Rather than blaming Apple for implementing a system that benefits most, perhaps the takeaway should be: “Lesson learned! check for activation locks immediately when purchasing a used device.” For an old phone that’s worth what $50, this situation may not justify such frustration or even a post, but it does underline the importance of being cautious with secondhand purchases.

Hope this experience helps others avoid the same mistake, but blaming the tool designed to protect people is misplaced.
100%.

Apple didn't just decide to make things harder for their customers. There was a real issue with iPhone theft when they first came out, so much so that police departments were being bombarded and asked Apple to help, so they had to implement a strong deterrent and now it is not really an issue at all.

And whatever loophole they would create so "they are able to undo an activation lock for my legitimate scenario" is something that every criminal would quickly exploit.

If you are buying Apple devices on the used markets, you can find some amazing deals, but you need to know what to look for. Many times when I buy something where I meet up, I will go through the initial activation just to make sure its unlocked. For Phones and Tablets, I look up the IMEI to make sure they are not carrier locked. What you shouldn't do is wait for months after buying something and then complain.
 
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Used to be you could enter a serial on Apple's website and see if it was locked or not. But there was a MESS of iPad minis shipped to China where they'd "Try" various random serial numbers until an unlocked one was found, then burn that serial onto the mini & resell it.

Which worked fine, until the random serial number they used was ACTUALLY sold, and the new owner found that it was Activation Locked to the person who bought the used mini 🤦🏻‍♂️

So the online checker was eliminated. That's why we can't have nice things.
Darn. I know there’s some sort of IMEI checker on the internet. I’ll give several a try and maybe that could tip me in the right direction if it is stolen.
 
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