Additional glassification

[zevrix]

Ok, installed Golden Gate. Explored the UI changes. It's pretty much unbelievable. They really have lost their mind with this glassy 3D garbage there. Now they have even ruined menus.

I'm talking about this look:

This is so outdated, overproduced, uncool, cheap, forced, out of touch with reality, tasteless, ugly, heavy, pathetic, and otherwise idiotic.

It looks like if some kind of a "vintage skin" is applied to the UI.

It's repulsive.

And now we're going to be stuck with this garbage for years.

(Yes, I know this is only my own personal views.)

 

[chabig]

You came from Sequoia, didn't you? It's not much different than Tahoe.

 

[zevrix]

No I'm on Tahoe. The difference is huge.

It's not like Tahoe was particularly exciting.

But Golden Gate is just pure unadulterated garbage.

 

[chabig]

Interesting. Yours is the first comment of this type that I’ve seen.

 

[Apple Knowledge Navigator]

I’m somewhere in the middle. I think GG is an improvement on Tahoe, but the changes only serve to create more dysfunction between many kinds of onscreen controls and window properties. Individually they are mostly okay, but together there is no cohesiveness.

 

[!!!]

There is something ironic about your screenshot containing a link to Apple's HIG. If only Apple understood that humans (as a whole group) do not change, and therefore interface guidelines do not really change either, we wouldn't be in this mess.

 

[zevrix]

Compare this cool, normal search field that Apple finally managed to deliver:

To this glassified filth that doesn't even look like a text field:

Came straight from experiments of an excited teenager who discovered Photoshop in the late 90s and thought that all those filters are sooo cooooool just wow wow.

This drivel had its place in the early 2000s, it's died out naturally, and it's great it did. Who the hell creates this kind of UI these days? Apple decided to revive this garbage for reasons that are impossible to comprehend.

 

[zevrix]

Interestingly, the same controls look totally cool and acceptable when they are in background windows (at least to my taste)

Why can't we just have this? (With appropriately focused icons and text, obviously).

 

[zevrix]

well i just found that enabling 'Show borders' makes this UI nearly acceptable:

at least it removes the 3D-glass vomit.

 

[Apple Knowledge Navigator]

Compare this cool, normal search field that Apple finally managed to deliver:

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To this glassified filth that doesn't even look like a text field:

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This is a big issue with Liquid Glass, conceptually. I understand it being used on areas that are contextual and change within the program, but a text field is not a button and should be treated as an area waiting for content to be inserted - thus it should have depth (inset) not an outward facing bubble.

 

[Ctrlos]

Not sure I see the problem, unless we're talking about that hideous Windows XP-blue the developer chose for the colour scheme.

 

[zevrix]

Not sure I see the problem, unless we're talking about that hideous Windows XP-blue the developer chose for the colour scheme.

Obviously, personal taste and perception are always involved. If you don't see a problem with this liquid goo kitsch that marched here straight from the worst early-2000s UI nightmares, then you're only lucky:

Ironically, when it comes to specifically toolbars, as bad as this liquified monstrosity looks on Golden Gate, it's still an improvement to whatever semi-floating thingie they concocted on Tahoe for which a proper term is impossible to find: