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McRumors no different than other forums.

Almost ever forum I visit the members are finding flaws about their vehicle, phone, watch, fishing vessel, etc.

It is just the nature of how it works.

Still worth reading as there is a LOT of great info. Just toss out the best and the worst and the truth is somewhere in between.
 
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take a pinch of salt. not too much, bad for your health. now throw pinch of salt over shoulder to ward off evil.

it's called kicking the tires

go in with your eyes wide shut, or open? is it 1.0? last batch from prototype? ever not seen OS without bugs during first 6 months?

I'd bet Apple looks in on forum such as this to see what people say and to learn from.
 
It's funny I had the opposite reaction on the iPhone x....where people here stated that the notch was not a big deal and it seems like its "not even there" comment.... welll saw the x and guess what IT there....stands out like a sore thumb.
 
This happens pretty much every time Apple brings out a new product. I get excited, I read the MacRumors forums, I read endless threads complaining about what a disaster the new product is, and I worry that the new product is a complete lemon.

Today I saw an iPhone X in real life. One of my friends bought one. I was expecting it to have a number of flaws. I expected the screen to be weirdly narrow. I expected the colours to go weird if I moved the phone or my head. I expected the notch to be so distracting I wouldn’t be able to concentrate. I expected the lack of a home button to make the phone an unqualified disaster. I expected horrifying grey strips all over the place that would ruin the visual appeal.

I should have known better. It’s a beautifully designed phone with a great screen and terrific user interface. I saw no change in colour when I moved the screen around. The proportions seemed fine. It fit great in my hand and my pocket. The screen seemed very similar in overall size to my iPhone 7+. The notch is beautifully integrated and not remotely distracting. It’s not even ugly. Gestures were easy and effective. I didn’t miss the home button at all. The keyboard looked fine.

I’m still not going to buy one. It’s a thousand pounds. For a phone. When I already have a great phone. But I’m not scared about buying one (or its successor) in the future.

To coin a phrase, these forums do often seem filled with fake news.

(Sadly my friend had the phone in a case, which made it look awful. I didn’t ask him to remove it, so I can’t speak to the aesthetics of the phone in the nude. I imagine it’s great. The rest of it is.)

Edit: He’s had the phone for a week. He had two negative comments. First, not all apps have been optimised for the X, which is annoying. Second, he has the case because he’s just too scared that the glass will shatter when he inevitably drops it.

Yes, agree with you. The thing is, if there were less overly dramatic posts and presenting everything as a scandal, we could have a real discussion about the benefits and flaws of a certain product. We could get informed.

The battery issue is the perfect example. There are questions I have about batteries in general - but I can’t have that discussion because if I asked any question, there would be 100 “Apple is a crooked company” answers and I honestly don’t want to add fuel to that fire. Or, I would love to hear some experience of Galaxy S8 users, because I like how that phone is built but really dislike how its software looks and the screen looks garish to me. But I’d love to hear from people who do like it, and how do they compare it to the iPhone X. Instead, half the replies would be “Apple is not innovating anymore, Galaxy is so obviously better. Fact.”

So, most of the time spent here I just argue with all the haters, because I find that kinda fun, but that really defeats the true purpose of this forum. I don’t really understand it - if you dislike an Apple product, get something else. If you want a different Apple product, write an honest feedback and send it to them (and no, “fire Tim Cook” is not feedback). But if you really believe their flagship product is a disaster - why are you here? I don’t get it.

Anyway, back to your post - yeah, iPhone X is a great device for a lot of people. I certainly love mine. Just as you said - you already have a great phone and one day you’ll upgrade to something like the X and have a new great phone. It’s better to avoid certain comments here, they can spoil your enthusiasm :)

Still, there are good posters here and people can be great help, the reason I still stick around.
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Although being spaniard, I believe to correctly understand what “rumor” means.
I also understand “forum” is a place to share opinions.
I suppose people tend to post something when they’re in trouble or find an inconvenience; no real need in “everything ok here”.
I like picky questions and moaning, as they help to make our loved Apple dispositives even better. Recently, a guy felt angry when he realized his phone was working slower than expected, because of a non new battery. Now, Apple offers cheap battery replacement for all affected users. We win with every well reasoned complaint.
It didn’t happen at MacRumors Forum... but it could.
That’s why I’ll keep reading all these diverse questions & opinions (as you do).

There is a VAST difference between “everything is not ok here, let’s talk” and “Apple is a crooked company that makes really crappy stuff to con you out of your money and anyone who doesn’t see it is a sheep, a zealot and they drink Kool-Aid #firetimcook” kind of attitude. I’ll let you decide which type of criticism is prevalent here, but keep in mind that people like the OP are not against criticism in general or genuine discussions with different opinions.
 
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I could be wrong but since this thread was created the OP has owned an iPhone X and returned it. The negative opinions were not all bad advice lol :)

Yes, somewhat ironically, that's true. Though I'm enjoying the fact that this thread suddenly resurrected and my OP got an extra fifteen thumbs up.

I didn't return the X because it's a bad phone. I had no complaint with the quality. I just fell out of love with it. That's partly because I kept seeing ads for the Samsung Galaxy S8 and it made the iPhone X look pretty poor by comparison. And partly because I saw a friend's iPhone 6S and I just loved how small and light and thin it was.

So now I have an iPhone 8. And I'm loving it.
 
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Yes, somewhat ironically, that's true. Though I'm enjoying the fact that this thread suddenly resurrected and my OP got an extra fifteen thumbs up.

I didn't return the X because it's a bad phone. I had no complaint with the quality. I just fell out of love with it. That's partly because I kept seeing ads for the Samsung Galaxy S8 and it made the iPhone X look pretty poor by comparison. And partly because I saw a friend's iPhone 6S and I just loved how small and light and thin it was.

So now I have an iPhone 8. And I'm loving it.

Haha, loving this. “I stopped loving the iPhone X because of Galaxy S8 and now I have an iPhone 8”. Hey man, as long as you’re happy these are all great devices. And I agree with all your comments on negativity - personally, I am always glad when people are happy with their devices, whatever they may be.

But then again, I understand the weight comment - Galaxy S8 is lighter, similar to 6/6S/7/8. I guess the steel band on the X makes it heavier.

Still in love with my X. Haha, read that as an “ex” and it sounds wrong :) But seriously, I can’t put my iPhone down.
 
Yes, somewhat ironically, that's true. Though I'm enjoying the fact that this thread suddenly resurrected and my OP got an extra fifteen thumbs up.

I didn't return the X because it's a bad phone. I had no complaint with the quality. I just fell out of love with it. That's partly because I kept seeing ads for the Samsung Galaxy S8 and it made the iPhone X look pretty poor by comparison. And partly because I saw a friend's iPhone 6S and I just loved how small and light and thin it was.

So now I have an iPhone 8. And I'm loving it.

Hey Matt, refresh my memory: which color and size 8?
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Haha, loving this. I stopped loving the iPhone X because of Galaxy S8 and now I have an iPhone 8. Hey man, as long as you’re happy these are all great devices.

But then again, I understand the weight comment - Galaxy S8 is lighter, similar to 6/6S/7/8. I guess the steel band on the X make it heavier.

This is just a WAG but I'm wondering if it's the steel chassis (not the band per se) and the extra battery? I have no real idea nor even any basis on which to speculate, I'm must guessing. :D
 
Haha, loving this. I stopped loving the iPhone X because of Galaxy S8 and now I have an iPhone 8. Hey man, as long as you’re happy these are all great devices.

But then again, I understand the weight comment - Galaxy S8 is lighter, similar to 6/6S/7/8. I guess the steel band on the X make it heavier.

Haha. There is some logic to it. Most iPhone purchases are not rational decisions. So when I fell out of love with the iPhone X because I saw something better, I got rid of it because it cost £999. I can't get a Samsung because I'm too deep into the Apple ecosystem. And I needed a phone, so I got the cheapest new phone, i.e. the iPhone 8. I saved nearly a third of the cost of the iPhone X. I got a phone that performs pretty much exactly the same. And so I'm happy.
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Hey Matt, refresh my memory: which color and size 8?

Regular size in Gold. Wasn't initially thrilled with the colour, but it grew on me. It's now in an Apple leather case and looks very smart.
 
So when I fell out of love with the iPhone X because I saw something better,

Shame on you, sir! How can you say S8 is better! Jk, it’s a matter of taste at this point.

I like the S8, but to me it’s far from better, especially due to their interface design. But it’s a great phone. Personally, I like both the X and the 8 better, but that’s just me.
 
Shame on you, sir! How can you say S8 is better! Jk, it’s a matter of taste at this point.

I like the S8, but to me it’s far from better, especially due to their interface design. But it’s a great phone. Personally, I like both the X and the 8 better, but that’s just me.

I know nothing of the OS or interface. I just think it's a much better looking phone externally. IMHO, obviously.

And I genuinely actually prefer the 8 to the X. I like the square corners and the bezels. And, it turns out, I do prefer TouchID.

None of which is to say the X is a bad phone. It's just not for me.
 
Well, I returned two iPhone Xes today, and did walk out of the store with a silver 64gb 8 and a leather case, so I know what you mean. My wife's 6 is getting very slow, and it's not the battery. So we'll see...

What we didn't like about the X:

- top corner access for control panel and notifications
- never got email notifications working as they do on her 6/my 7 (or the 8 we are trying)
- ApplePay is a cluster**** on the X
- the gorgeous OLED display nevertheless causes headaches if looked at for a while
- can't unlock the phone on a desk to table without picking it up
- ironically, too many unwanted unlocks when handling the phone

It is an amazing phone. FaceID is not crap, though I still prefer TouchID. It came down to the question of whether the phone was working for me/her or I/she was working for the phone.
 
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Not so much "fake news", just a lot of really, really, really (one more time for the people in the back) REALLY picky people who do nothing but attempt to find flaws.
The fake part is when they say things like:

“This phone isn’t even worth $300”

“I’ve had 5 bad screens... Worst. Release. Ever. It’s never been this bad for Apple.”

“Man Apple isn’t selling as many of these new phones as I want them to. Down with Tim Cook, he deserves to be fired.”
 
McRumors no different than other forums.

"McDonalds is so greedy! I ordered a Big Mac and the bread in the middle had a huge chunk missing- like a whole millimeter! Ray Kroc would never have allowed this. Good thing Burger King is around, their products are so much better. The Whopper makes the Big Mac look obsolete- but I guess stupid McShills won't ever find that out!!!"

- McRumors User "McSucks57" on their daily rant about Burger King being better than McDonalds
 
Yes, somewhat ironically, that's true. Though I'm enjoying the fact that this thread suddenly resurrected and my OP got an extra fifteen thumbs up.

I didn't return the X because it's a bad phone. I had no complaint with the quality. I just fell out of love with it. That's partly because I kept seeing ads for the Samsung Galaxy S8 and it made the iPhone X look pretty poor by comparison. And partly because I saw a friend's iPhone 6S and I just loved how small and light and thin it was.

So now I have an iPhone 8. And I'm loving it.

The S8 is perhaps the best looking phone of 2017 I quite agree. The OS is the snag for me though. Like yourself if I had needed a phone this year I’d likely have gone with the iPhone 8 too. The X looks nice but hideously expensive for what it is. I couldn’t justify the cost just to run iOS when there is a cheaper alternative.
 
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You’re exactly right. There are more negative OCD threads than positive ones. This is the best iPhone to date and I’m very happy with it.
 
Not so much "fake news", just a lot of really, really, really (one more time for the people in the back) REALLY picky people who do nothing but attempt to find flaws.

It isn't people being picky. It is that the quality isn't consistent. It sucks playing the Apple lottery.
 
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It isn't people being picky. It is that the quality isn't consistent. It sucks playing the Apple lottery.
Apple is the only company with mass produced products where there are some variations for some at times?
 
This happens pretty much every time Apple brings out a new product. I get excited, I read the MacRumors forums, I read endless threads complaining about what a disaster the new product is, and I worry that the new product is a complete lemon.

Today I saw an iPhone X in real life. One of my friends bought one. I was expecting it to have a number of flaws. I expected the screen to be weirdly narrow. I expected the colours to go weird if I moved the phone or my head. I expected the notch to be so distracting I wouldn’t be able to concentrate. I expected the lack of a home button to make the phone an unqualified disaster. I expected horrifying grey strips all over the place that would ruin the visual appeal.

I should have known better. It’s a beautifully designed phone with a great screen and terrific user interface. I saw no change in colour when I moved the screen around. The proportions seemed fine. It fit great in my hand and my pocket. The screen seemed very similar in overall size to my iPhone 7+. The notch is beautifully integrated and not remotely distracting. It’s not even ugly. Gestures were easy and effective. I didn’t miss the home button at all. The keyboard looked fine.

I’m still not going to buy one. It’s a thousand pounds. For a phone. When I already have a great phone. But I’m not scared about buying one (or its successor) in the future.

To coin a phrase, these forums do often seem filled with fake news.

(Sadly my friend had the phone in a case, which made it look awful. I didn’t ask him to remove it, so I can’t speak to the aesthetics of the phone in the nude. I imagine it’s great. The rest of it is.)


Edit: He’s had the phone for a week. He had two negative comments. First, not all apps have been optimised for the X, which is annoying. Second, he has the case because he’s just too scared that the glass will shatter when he inevitably drops it.

The real problem is that people are followers. Everything these days are battling to influence you. This is why some companies deploy paid trolls to try an influence fans to go elsewhere. Don't be a follower. Use forums as a data point and make up your own mind. I know it easier said than done though.
 
The real problem is that people are followers. Everything these days are battling to influence you. This is why some companies deploy paid trolls to try an influence fans to go elsewhere. Don't be a follower. Use forums as a data point and make up your own mind. I know it easier said than done though.

Reference the Bolded in your Post, Excellent advice and that's how it should be. Only the user can make informed decisions of what purchases and how to go about something.
 
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