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biggnoggin

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I think some of you guys are being a little harsh. I guess the fact is I wouldn't care if they were doing some minor update like thunderbolt, USB 3.0, Core 2 Duo 2.0ghz. As for some of you saying 8-9 months for refresh you are sadly mistaken, the original MBA was brought out in 2008 and then the refresh was in late 2008 for graphics. I was simply pointing out that one reason I buy apple is the fact the major refreshes don't occur every 6 months and I know that my product has a shelf life of 16-24 months. I'm happy with my MBA but if a faster, better performing computer came out who wouldn't want to upgrade. IMO I think it will be pretty crappy if apple did a major refresh 8 months after it just came out.
 

theSeb

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I think some of you guys are being a little harsh. I guess the fact is I wouldn't care if they were doing some minor update like thunderbolt, USB 3.0, Core 2 Duo 2.0ghz. As for some of you saying 8-9 months for refresh you are sadly mistaken, the original MBA was brought out in 2008 and then the refresh was in late 2008 for graphics. I was simply pointing out that one reason I buy apple is the fact the major refreshes don't occur every 6 months and I know that my product has a shelf life of 16-24 months. I'm happy with my MBA but if a faster, better performing computer came out who wouldn't want to upgrade. IMO I think it will be pretty crappy if apple did a major refresh 8 months after it just came out.

How exactly would an update reduce your "shelf life" and why would the product's shelf life make any difference to you?

I bought an 09 MBP at the end of 2009 and it was refreshed a couple of weeks later because I wasn't following the news and did not know about this site. Surprisingly though, my MBP kept working despite the refresh and has served me in its purpose. It still works today. Crazy, eh?

I cannot fathom how your mind works if you think that Apple should hold back on new tech just because you have some obsession and will be upset you if you don't have the "latest model".
 

biggnoggin

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How exactly would an update reduce your "shelf life" and why would the product's shelf life make any difference to you?

I bought an 09 MBP at the end of 2009 and it was refreshed a couple of weeks later because I wasn't following the news and did not know about this site. Surprisingly though, my MBP kept working despite the refresh and has served me in its purpose. It still works today. Crazy, eh?

I cannot fathom how your mind works if you think that Apple should hold back on new tech just because you have some obsession and will be upset you if you don't have the "latest model".

First why do you sound so angry, because someone has a different opinion? Second it is your fault that you didn't do research before you bought an item that was set to refresh in a couple of weeks, unlike what I did and saw that the last major refresh for the first MBA was almost 2 years after the first MBA was brought out. My MBA works fine and like others that contribute to the post pointed out that the new hardware might make the MBA perform worse, in which case I wouldn't want to upgrade. Is it also crazy that last year people that bought a iphone 3gs 4 months before the iphone 4 came out were able to exchange or upgrade to iphone 4 for free. Was that crazy too? Listen if you don't agree with someone then just say it but don't say I have an obsession with only having the latest apple product when I have clearly stated facts that point out otherwise.
 

lythium

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If you were to buy a new car in September, then the 2012 models were released a month later. You wouldn't expect them to set you up with the new one would you?
 

Hellhammer

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Is it also crazy that last year people that bought a iphone 3gs 4 months before the iphone 4 came out were able to exchange or upgrade to iphone 4 for free.

That is not Apple who offered that. Carriers are allowed to have their own business models but not all carriers offered that. Since MBA is not tied to a carrier, the iPhone case is not comparable.
 

macjonny1

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Jan 10, 2006
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don't say I have an obsession with only having the latest apple product when I have clearly stated facts that point out otherwise.


I agree with the other poster. You have an obsession with the latest apple product. Sorry if that offends you but it's true. Man up and at least admit it, it's OK. Denial is the 1st stage...
 

biggnoggin

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I wouldn't call my post whining, I simply was curious on if anyone felt the same way I do about the situation. Apparently not so I don't think there is really any point to keep posting. Thanks for all the responses.
 

eXistance360

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you betcha.....but I don't wait in line (LOL) You want the upgrade , go get it but don't whine about it.....

So your "better" because you don't wait in line? Grow up.

To Thread Creater, think about it like this. Alot of these products have a 8 month (average) life cycle before being upgraded. If apple gave an exchange within 8 months, they would be giving out refunds for the majority of the products life cycle. no company would stay in business with such a deal.

Though I do believe apple gives exchanges in most cases on products bought a week or two before a new product is released, but it really is at their discretion.
 

theSeb

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Defensive much? I don't why you think I was angry. I was merely pointing out that your argument holds no water and I cannot understand how your mind works.

Apple has to update the tech in order to keep the competition at bay. Most manufacturers update on a more regular basis. Apple is at least kind enough to offer you the new model if you bought two weeks before a refresh. What else do you expect exactly?

Your phone and what mobile companies do comparison is flawed for many reasons. One of them has already been mentioned. The other is that they get their phones at a heavily reduced rate and it is not their business model to make money on phones. They make money on the charges and keeping you in a contract. That's why they will take the hit and offer you the new handset, if you stay with them.
 

theSeb

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To Thread Creater, think about it like this. Alot of these products have a 8 month (average) life cycle before being upgraded. If apple gave an exchange within 8 months, they would be giving out refunds for the majority of the products life cycle. no company would stay in business with such a deal.
It scares me that you have to point out something so obvious.
 

robeddie

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It scares me that you have to point out something so obvious.

The thread starter seems to want a near-full exchange on his product 6 months after using it ... that's just his 'opinion' about it, so he doesn't think we should judge him for that.

He must really hate buying a car, since it loses 20 percent of it's value the second you drive it off the lot, lol.

And what about that 60hz, ccfl lcd tv he bought last year for 1200? Now he could get an led backlit, 240hz, 3d capable tv for the same price. He needs to go back to Sony for an exchange on that too.

And hey, when he meets a chick that's younger and hotter than his wife ... he should also be able to opt out of the marriage with no trouble as well. That's just his 'opnion' though, so don't snicker at him.
 
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macjonny1

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Jan 10, 2006
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I was laughing that someone suggested buying within a few months of the update/refresh (to avoid buyer's remorse), which is what the OP did, and he still thinks it should be available to exchange. LMAO!!
 

KnightWRX

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Jan 28, 2009
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I'm hearing rumors of a Macbook Air refresh in June and I just got mine in January!! If they do switch from Core 2 Duo to Sandy Bridge and thunderbolt shouldn't they offer some kind of sweet trade in deal for people that have only had there systems for 6months or something. Anybody else feeling this way?

They do. This is a little known fact, but Apple has this partner called Kijiji, you simply put up a few pictures of your laptop and the trade in value it's worth with your coordinates. People will then contact you and pay for your trade-in value to obtain your old laptop and the money can then be used to purchase the new one.
 

gdeputy

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Jul 23, 2008
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you betcha.....but I don't wait in line (LOL) You want the upgrade , go get it but don't whine about it.....


Dude, who cares if you wait in line, you've got all of apple's newest devices.. you ARE the guy that needs the latest and greatest. (Not saying I'm not, but don't make a point to put down people who are when it's painfully obvious that you are too.)
 

glen e

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Dude, who cares if you wait in line, you've got all of apple's newest devices.. you ARE the guy that needs the latest and greatest. (Not saying I'm not, but don't make a point to put down people who are when it's painfully obvious that you are too.)

Once again, "dude" you missed the point...I buy the stuff but dont complain im getting screwed because they brought out new stuff ....and i deserve some break....
 

PittAir

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Mar 13, 2008
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Ask yourself what you need your device to do (be it an LED-LCD TV or a Macbook Air) and make your decision from there.

That's the whole point of Apple anyway. To get you to think about what you need the technology to do, then get out of the way as much as possible.

Why Thunderbolt and why an upgraded processor? If your computer does what it needs to do 99% of the time with USB and a C2D, why even upgrade? To transfer your 100 GB iTunes file over Thunderbolt a bit faster those 4-5 times you do it yearly? To encode an iMovie a bit faster with the SB processor the 10-12 times per year you do it?

Sure, if there was some cool new Lion feature that needed a faster processor and Thunderbolt, I'd consider. But in the developer releases so far, has anyone see this new feature that requires a hardware upgrade?

Spec wars remind me of Dell, home of the most recently announced "ultra-thin and light laptop (supposed Macbook Air competitor) weighing in a 5.6 lbs (!).
 

theSeb

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Ask yourself what you need your device to do (be it an LED-LCD TV or a Macbook Air) and make your decision from there.

That's the whole point of Apple anyway. To get you to think about what you need the technology to do, then get out of the way as much as possible.

Why Thunderbolt and why an upgraded processor? If your computer does what it needs to do 99% of the time with USB and a C2D, why even upgrade? To transfer your 100 GB iTunes file over Thunderbolt a bit faster those 4-5 times you do it yearly? To encode an iMovie a bit faster with the SB processor the 10-12 times per year you do it?

Sure, if there was some cool new Lion feature that needed a faster processor and Thunderbolt, I'd consider. But in the developer releases so far, has anyone see this new feature that requires a hardware upgrade?

Spec wars remind me of Dell, home of the most recently announced "ultra-thin and light laptop (supposed Macbook Air competitor) weighing in a 5.6 lbs (!).

Good post. I wonder if most of the "must have latest" obsession can be linked to the younger forum members and peer pressure?
 

ezekielrage_99

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Oct 12, 2005
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I just don't get this. You KNOW going in that EVERY mac computer is updated every 9 to 10 months or so. So to buy one 3 or 4 months after a product release, then get miffed 5 months later when a new one is released ... that's just moronic.

Use the damn thing and quit worrying about what the 'new' thing is ... or go get the new thing and sell your old one on ebay.

That's the way this works. Deal with it.

My sentiments as well.

It takes 1 minute to check the buyers guide yet people still don't bother...
 

ezekielrage_99

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Oct 12, 2005
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The funny thing is that he probably bought it when the buyer's guide said "Buy now, product just updated"

True, there's the general feel that most "need" the latest Mac even though it's an incremental update. I've seen many threads asking "should I buy this?" after having the previous model for less than a year.

I wish I has that type of disposable income to upgrade every revision... I feel hard done by for using a Mac for 5 years before I replace :eek:
 

' r i S e n

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May 15, 2011
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I do certainly not feel that way. I bought my Air 4 months ago, and not even an octo-core-Air with ThunderBolt and 32 gigs of RAM can put me in buyer's remorse... from which you seem to suffer already, btw.

Your computer was worth the price when you bought it, wasn't it? Otherwise you wouldn't have purchased it, would you? Be happy for what you've got.

I completely agree with this.

I purchased a MBP in Dec 2010, two months before the 2011 models came out - and honestly aside from not having to wait the extra time for a laptop as well, I couldn't really be happier with the purchase. OP, I think you should be happy for what you have and as torbjoern said and not worry about other models coming out, as that is going to happen again and again. I can understand your standpoint for a moment as I instinctively wanted to feel the same way when I saw the 2011 MBP hit - but it's really no big deal and I am sure you can find a niche that would make your specific machine unique in comparison to later models.

And no, I do not believe there should be such a trade-in deal. ^^;
 

cherishzm

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Mar 13, 2011
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It's still 5 months after you bought your MBA. If it was a few weeks, I would understand, but 5 months?

That's why I always buy a used Mac at a substantial discount (20~40%). I bought a used MBA 11 4GB for $700 in Feb 11 and am trying to decide what to do with it now. :D If you don't have to have a brand new Mac, wait a couple months after an update and you can find used ones at a good discount from CL or eBay. There are always people who need cash.
 
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