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darnovo

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Anybody else experience this? I know they have a battery / bluetooth in them so they are probably hotter than just normal headphones, however, I just want to make sure that it's normal activity before I have a Galaxy incident in my ear.

Not HOT HOT, just warm.
 

noteple

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Aug 30, 2011
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Case in my pants pocket and the buds were warm
Case in my jacket pocket ( in the low thirties with snow) this evening they were like a cool piece of plastic.
Otherwise they don't feel warmer to me than normal body temperature.
 

joshi3joshi

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Oct 1, 2007
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Anybody else experience this? I know they have a battery / bluetooth in them so they are probably hotter than just normal headphones, however, I just want to make sure that it's normal activity before I have a Galaxy incident in my ear.

Not HOT HOT, just warm.


Been noticing this with my pair too...would like to get some other feedback to see if we are isolated incidents and need to be concerned about replacing them, or if its a normal occurrence. anyone else?
 

alansaysstop

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Apr 11, 2009
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Just received mine last night and have been using them pretty diligently in the office this afternoon/evening. So far seems pretty normal.
 

joshi3joshi

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Oct 1, 2007
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returned my pair. 2 employees at the apple store both said that wasn't normal. hope i dont just have sensitive ears.
 

TrueBlou

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For what it's worth I've been using mine nigh on as constantly as their battery allows for the past three days. More than I usually would because I'm breaking them in and I'm monitoring their battery life.

Anyway, at no point even with hours of constant use, have either of the AirPods gotten warm at all.
 

Arran

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For what it's worth I've been using mine nigh on as constantly as their battery allows for the past three days. More than I usually would because I'm breaking them in and I'm monitoring their battery life.

Anyway, at no point even with hours of constant use, have either of the AirPods gotten warm at all.
Same to report here.

They've been in for hours at a time. Either playing music or on long phone calls. No warming.

The battery does seem to drop faster on phone calls, however, so I guess I'd expect warming in those cases - if anything - simply because energy is being dissipated at a faster rate. But nothing.
 

hubieonekanubie

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Jul 15, 2010
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I've not noticed mine hot in my ear but I have thermal camera I can use to take pic of them. I'll try them out for ten mins and take a pic.
[doublepost=1483922847][/doublepost]Not sure if this is from 10 mins of skin contact or not. They didn't feel hot in my ears.
 

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DavidPWR

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Jan 13, 2017
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i just got mine this afternoon, and I'm curious if anyone else is getting a slight headache/ear pain? I probably used them for an hour at a very low volume, and I noticed right away I was starting to get a slight headache. I took them off for a few hours to see if my headache would go away, and it eventually did. I tried using them again, and I could feel after a few minutes my ears getting sore.

I'm hoping this is just an issue with the Airpods being just a little bigger or heavier than what I'm used to, and not me having an issue with Bluetooth devices in general.

Has anyone else experienced anything similar?
Yes, same issue. I was very excited to begin using the air pods which by the way work really well. All of a sudden after a conf call I got a sharp pain behind my ear on the side of my head. Stopped using the Air pods and I'm fine. Decided to give it another go today and after a 5 min call started to feel the pain again. I'm done, not worth the risk. I contacted my rep at Apple to let him know what I experienced. If they take then air pods back, great if not I'm trashing them.
 
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shab

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I don't even think about buying the Airpods. Any Bluetooth enabled device in my personal space, gives me headache, and worsen my tinnitus.:(
 

Vegaspilot

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Haven't experienced any headaches, but they don't stay in my ears so I gave them to my wife. Tried using them again to watch a TV show and noticed some discomfort from them after about 30 mins, especially the right one. Took them out to find they had gotten quite warm/borderline hot. Was surprised to feel them that warm.
 

Lennyvalentin

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I don't even think about buying the Airpods. Any Bluetooth enabled device in my personal space, gives me headache, and worsen my tinnitus.:(
Psychosomatic and/or other issues (physical discomfort/poor fit, too loud volume, too much treble, and so on.) Bluetooth wireless tech doesn't, and in fact can't affect human beings.
 

shab

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Dec 17, 2016
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So don't worry about bluetooth. Anyone saying it causes...whatever, they're either trying to con you for some reason (selling you a belief system, a book or a snakeoily gimmick of some sort), or they're unscientific and/or clueless and/or paranoid kooks. Or all of the above. :p

Appeal to authority fallacy.

2.4GHz RF transmissions CAN'T affect human tissues. Impossible. It does NOT cause cancer. End of story.

And as mentioned, 2.4GHz EM waves don't interact particularly strongly with human tissues - they can't disrupt normal cell functions and as such don't cause cancer. We know this; physics tells us so, and alarmist internet weblinks be damned.

Psychosomatic and/or other issues (physical discomfort/poor fit, too loud volume, too much treble, and so on.) Bluetooth wireless tech doesn't, and in fact can't affect human beings.

I knew it. I'm ET. ;) But seriously science still doesn't have all the answers! It's true that for 99% there is no problem. But Human beings are different. We have different kind of allergies, tastes, and genetics. Why is so difficult for you to accept that few of us are having difficulties with Bluetooth?
 

caligurl

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Psychosomatic and/or other issues (physical discomfort/poor fit, too loud volume, too much treble, and so on.) Bluetooth wireless tech doesn't, and in fact can't affect human beings.

However wifi can and does affect a lot of people. Perhaps the person is actually reacting to wifi but thinks it's bluetooth?
 
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Airs0urce

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Jan 18, 2017
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I got my AirPods couple days ago. After using for about 12 hours I got headache. Not sure if this is because of headphones, but this is the first reason came to my mind. Will test it more.

Before I was using wired EarPods for last 3 years
 
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jcmoney10

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Interesting that I haven't been the only one who has experienced this issue. While the number of people effected are small, it does seem like there is something that is causing the issue. My guess is that it has more to do with pressure build up when wore tightly in the ear rather than bluetooth issues, but that's just a guess.

At the very least I'm glad to see I'm not crazy.
 

Lennyvalentin

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Apr 25, 2011
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Why is so difficult for you to accept that few of us are having difficulties with Bluetooth?
Because it's unscientific claptrap. Difficulties arise for a reason, they don't arise 'because some people are different'; people aren't THAT different that the laws of nature affect them in different ways than anyone else. :)

I don't doubt that you're feeling difficulties/something-or-other; if you say you do then I'm sure you do. It's your stated cause I'm sceptical about. :)

However wifi can and does affect a lot of people. Perhaps the person is actually reacting to wifi but thinks it's bluetooth?
Wifi does NOT affect people; not "a lot" of people, or even a few. None. Zero.

There isn't a single scientific blind study where any so-called "wifi sensitives" have reliably (as in greater than random chance) been able to predict the presence of active wifi transmitters. Also, as mentioned, wifi transmissions aren't able to interfere with human tissues in a way that would cause health issues; our understanding of physics tells us this. So it's bunk.

People who claim to be wifi sensitives (or bluetooth, or electricity) are feeling something, but it is not actually caused by wifi, bluetooth or electricity. It's other factors, including their own anxieties, perhaps caused by thinking about/worrying over potential health effects of wifi, bluetooth or electricity in general.

Often these issues stem from a fundamental lack of understanding of how things work; if we're unfamiliar and lacking in experience with something - such as wireless tech - it tends to scare many of us. (Immigration is a classic non-technical incarnation of this phenomenon.) Worrying and stress and fear often causes physical manifestations as aches and pains and whatnot in a lot of, if not most people. Like, overworked people ending up with ulcers for example.

So the feelings are real; the cause of it is not. :)
 

Airs0urce

macrumors member
Jan 18, 2017
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Ok, after more testing I don't have headache. I think it was not because of AirPods
 

dotnet

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Apr 10, 2015
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Often these issues stem from a fundamental lack of understanding of how things work; if we're unfamiliar and lacking in experience with something - such as wireless tech - it tends to scare many of us. (Immigration is a classic non-technical incarnation of this phenomenon.)

Religion is another one.
 

CMoore515

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Sep 27, 2015
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I've been using AirPods for two weeks. Didn't have a headache at all for the first week. Developed that and ear pain during the second week, but I chalked it up to the sinus infection I was battling, as now symptoms have gone away.
 

Perene

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I noticed some people reported the same thing elsewhere (and not for Apple products):
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?125757-Headache-from-Bluetooth-Headset
https://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Other...uetooth-causes-headaches-migraines/td-p/26263

It seems to me that the lack of scientific evidence does not confirms these devices are safe. On the contrary, they may all be unsafe or people may have these side effects under specific circumstances (or maybe faulty units?), or they are different from others when it comes to how this can affect them.

What needs to be said here (and always reminded before further conjectures) is that this is a relatively new technology that hasn't been studied enough. And even if they can't be good for our health I find hard to believe that any study can conclude this with certainty.

A good example that I would like to mention here is this:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/is-it-bad-for-your-eyes-to-keep-brightness-on-minimum.1536641/

It's common knowledge that we all need to use the screen brightness on minimum (not that much, but less than 50%, that's for sure), to avoid eye strain and possible eye problems. But only doing that won't help if you don't take other measures such as covering the lamps in a way that you don't look directly at them while in your room (at night) or use good sunglasses...

Could it be that a few people are more susceptible than others at looking at these screens?

No.

Have people completely forgot CRT's refresh rate of 60 Hz?

It's just that most users deliberately chose to ignore these tips and just don't care anymore. They will only "care" when they discover their vision has been damaged permanently, years from now when visiting the ophthalmologist.
 

Lennyvalentin

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Apr 25, 2011
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I noticed some people reported the same thing elsewhere (and not for Apple products):
Yes, confirmation bias is a thing.

It seems to me that the lack of scientific evidence does not confirms these devices are safe.
You're desiring a negative to be proven to you. Like, prove that Santa Claus does not exist; it can't be done.

What needs to be said here (and always reminded before further conjectures) is that this is a relatively new technology that hasn't been studied enough.
What is your qualifications for determining it has not been studied enough?

Or are you just assuming/fearmongering?

Have people completely forgot CRT's refresh rate of 60 Hz?
Not sure what that has to do with anything, CRTs is an entirely unrelated thing to bluetooth wireless tech. Also, many CRTs defaulted to 72/75Hz to avoid flickering.
 
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