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staggerlee41

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Love the GD. Stagger Lee was a classic. I saw about 50 live shows in the 80’s. Love your Garcia picture. I distinctly remember an excellent Stagger Lee in 89 at Mountain View in the summer. Cheers!

You're the first and only one who's commented on the Garcia avatar or the GD. Always a pleasure to meet a fellow Deadhead. One of my favorite songs. I didn't get to see them too much, 15 shows, but the music lives on thankfully. I'm going to have to follow your lead and find the Mountain View show from 89 and give it a listen! Thanks for bringing that up.
 
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michial

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You're the first and only one who's commented on the Garcia avatar or the GD. Always a pleasure to meet a fellow Deadhead. One of my favorite songs. I didn't get to see them too much, 15 shows, but the music lives on thankfully. I'm going to have to follow your lead and find the Mountain View show from 89 and give it a listen! Thanks for bringing that up.
There were a few shows in 89 if memory serves me. I saw a few in June and I believe they returned in a September. I may have seen those too. I saw many along the west coast. Lol. I can’t remember which one but it was nice. I believe Terrapin was also played.
 
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Wookiedoo

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Oct 7, 2017
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Here is my best guess what is going on.

Scammer sets up a fake store. When they get an order, they use a stolen credit card to ship the item to you from a legitimate retailer (Best Buy in this case, that is why you have the Best Buy receipt in the package). Scammer then pockets the original money, and word of mouth helps them get additional orders. At some point the system collapses, they take the money and run and use any credit card/PayPal info they have for their new fraud store, scam rinse and repeats.

Something like this happened to a pilot I was paired with who used a discount bulk disposable diaper internet service. The diapers he ordered and received were actually purchased with someone else’s stolen credit card. As far as he knew, he ordered diapers and they arrived as normal. A couple of months later the police showed up on his doorstep. It turned out the real account holder noticed a fraud charge on his statement, and get the police involved. It was easy to track as the statement had the legit retailer on the statement, and the retailer had this pilot's address as the receiver of the diapers bought with the stolen credit card.

The police said later his card info would probably be used to send diapers or unrelated merchandise to others. (This was a few years ago, I am fuzzy on the exact details of the story.)

First thing I would do is change any thing that you might have inadvertently given to the scammers. (PayPal password may have been intercepted by the web site, or any credit card info given to them for example.) I would also keep any info from the “discount” web site (emailed receipts, contact numbers, web addresses) in case the police knock on the door and think you committed fraud vs being a victim yourself.

[doublepost=1507443148][/doublepost]Now your scaring me.
 

coolbreeze2

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Sep 24, 2009
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Here is my best guess what is going on.

Scammer sets up a fake store. When they get an order, they use a stolen credit card to ship the item to you from a legitimate retailer (Best Buy in this case, that is why you have the Best Buy receipt in the package). Scammer then pockets the original money, and word of mouth helps them get additional orders. At some point the system collapses, they take the money and run and use any credit card/PayPal info they have for their new fraud store, scam rinse and repeats.

Something like this happened to a pilot I was paired with who used a discount bulk disposable diaper internet service. The diapers he ordered and received were actually purchased with someone else’s stolen credit card. As far as he knew, he ordered diapers and they arrived as normal. A couple of months later the police showed up on his doorstep. It turned out the real account holder noticed a fraud charge on his statement, and get the police involved. It was easy to track as the statement had the legit retailer on the statement, and the retailer had this pilot's address as the receiver of the diapers bought with the stolen credit card.

The police said later his card info would probably be used to send diapers or unrelated merchandise to others. (This was a few years ago, I am fuzzy on the exact details of the story.)

First thing I would do is change any thing that you might have inadvertently given to the scammers. (PayPal password may have been intercepted by the web site, or any credit card info given to them for example.) I would also keep any info from the “discount” web site (emailed receipts, contact numbers, web addresses) in case the police knock on the door and think you committed fraud vs being a victim yourself.


I am the original poster. It is clear that the two sites I asked about are scams!!!! Please everyone don’t fall for these scammers. DO NOT ORDER.
 

dekartes

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Nov 29, 2017
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I placed original order on September 13th. I received them on the 26th.
[doublepost=1511968476][/doublepost]This is a routine scam. Works exactly as described. I had the same situation with a different product on EBay. Too good of price on a new product to be real. Because of PayPal protection I bought it anyway. Came to me directly from the manufacturer why a different name on the package. In my case I called the manufacturer. They told me to keep the product and they would take oved with the fraud case with Ebay. Sounded like it happened a lot.
 
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Billburns

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[doublepost=1511968476][/doublepost]This is a routine scam. Works exactly as described. I had the same situation with a different product on EBay. Too good of price on a new product to be real. Because of PayPal protection I bought it anyway. Came to me directly from the manufacturer why a different name on the package. In my case I called the manufacturer. They told me to keep the product and they would take oved with the fraud case with Ebay. Sounded like it happened a lot.

Weird how this thread was ghost and I accidentally viewed I.T about 5 minutes before you posted


Either way I did end up ordering before finding out all this scam stuff

I ordered the airpods and they came from Best Buy in my name but the billing was my name as well so not sure if a gift card was used or what
 

jumpintheriver

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Dec 11, 2017
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I ordered air pods from KT Estore for $119. on 11/30. Postal authorities advised today that on 12/1, KT estore send an INTERCEPT ORDER. If I track the package on USPS, it appears that the package was delivered on 12/4. Postal authorities say that it may have been delivered then they retrieved it when they saw the INTERCEPT ORDER. The air pods were returned to KT estore. They have not notified me of any problem. They have not refunded the $119.00 I paid. I am so angry, I am trying to contact them, but their phone # is perpetually "busy." I emailed them and all emails were returned to me because there is no such email address. I looked up their address at 9044 Ascot Dr. in Elgin IL. Zillow states this is a 2 bedroom 2 bathroom home with 1449 sq ft last sold in July of 2005 for $205,000.
 

Billburns

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I ordered air pods from KT Estore for $119. on 11/30. Postal authorities advised today that on 12/1, KT estore send an INTERCEPT ORDER. If I track the package on USPS, it appears that the package was delivered on 12/4. Postal authorities say that it may have been delivered then they retrieved it when they saw the INTERCEPT ORDER. The air pods were returned to KT estore. They have not notified me of any problem. They have not refunded the $119.00 I paid. I am so angry, I am trying to contact them, but their phone # is perpetually "busy." I emailed them and all emails were returned to me because there is no such email address. I looked up their address at 9044 Ascot Dr. in Elgin IL. Zillow states this is a 2 bedroom 2 bathroom home with 1449 sq ft last sold in July of 2005 for $205,000.

The product was intercepted because the item you ordered was ordered with a stolen credit card.

Those two stores are a front of a credit card fraud ring. You pay them money, they will order your item with a stolen credit card and have it sent to your address.
 

jumpintheriver

macrumors newbie
Dec 11, 2017
2
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Thank you for info. PayPal refunded $.

The product was intercepted because the item you ordered was ordered with a stolen credit card.

Those two stores are a front of a credit card fraud ring. You pay them money, they will order your item with a stolen credit card and have it sent to your address.
I O


I ordered air pods from KT Estore for $119. on 11/30. Postal authorities advised today that on 12/1, KT estore send an INTERCEPT ORDER. If I track the package on USPS, it appears that the package was delivered on 12/4. Postal authorities say that it may have been delivered then they retrieved it when they saw the INTERCEPT ORDER. The air pods were returned to KT estore. They have not notified me of any problem. They have not refunded the $119.00 I paid. I am so angry, I am trying to contact them, but their phone # is perpetually "busy." I emailed them and all emails were returned to me because there is no such email address. I looked up their address at 9044 Ascot Dr. in Elgin IL. Zillow states this is a 2 bedroom 2 bathroom home with 1449 sq ft last sold in July of 2005 for $205,000.
 

Tung Nguyen

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Feb 5, 2018
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Let us know if you end up ordering and receiving a product. I am in the market for a pair and wouldn’t mind paying $120.

One thing I noticed is that both websites have similar layout. Kind of suspicious.
Try Mtp supple, I got it from them for the same price, and it came an apple AirPod case with plastic still covering over it like it is on IPhone box
 

RR24

macrumors newbie
May 10, 2018
6
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They are legit! I bought them and today they came and they were Airpods! They come from BestBuy, they included the receipt.
 

DeltaMac

macrumors G5
Jul 30, 2003
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Delaware
They are legit! I bought them and today they came and they were Airpods! They come from BestBuy, they included the receipt.
I guess you ignored the rest of this thread...
If the "company" uses a fake or stolen credit card to purchase from Bestbuy, that would be the only way that you get the bargain that you did - the Airpods are scammed from Bestbuy.

Scammer's trick still works.

The Airpods would be legit. BestBuy is also legit (although some might dispute that, BestBuy is a legitimate company), but the third-party (in the middle) is --- not so much.

Feel better now?
 

RR24

macrumors newbie
May 10, 2018
6
0
I guess you ignored the rest of this thread...
If the "company" uses a fake or stolen credit card to purchase from Bestbuy, that would be the only way that you get the bargain that you did - the Airpods are scammed from Bestbuy.

Scammer's trick still works.

The Airpods would be legit. BestBuy is also legit (although some might dispute that, BestBuy is a legitimate company), but the third-party (in the middle) is --- not so much.

Feel better now?
hahahaha It doesn’t make me feel better lol I just want to clarify the assumption. Seems like everyone is jumping into conclusions.
 

DeltaMac

macrumors G5
Jul 30, 2003
13,768
4,592
Delaware
hahaha... I was not assuming anything.
Standard scammers tricks are a known fact. I don't need a conclusion about that.

If you bought an item that was sold by a recognized company at a particular price, particularly an item with a known selling price, with a sales slip showing that retail price --- and YOU bought it for less, then that's a known tactic by scammers. What else could it be, eh?
 

Silhouettic

macrumors newbie
May 22, 2018
2
2

CAUTION! BUYERS BEWARE of www.Dmax-Estores.com . I recently purchased Apple Airpods for the listed price of $119 from Dmax-Estores website and they totally went dark. Dmax-Estores responded to my order with what appeared to be a legitimate email reply saying order was being processed and if I had any questions to reply to email. After waiting 8 business days and not receiving any updates I emailed them twice and both emails were eventually returned with “failed delivery” messages. The listed telephone number never connected to anyone or anything. No dial tone – just silence and eventually hung up. Dmax-Estores never responded to their own on-site "Contact Us" text widget they offer. I finally had to go through the third party payment platform they use and thank goodness that company is reputable. I filed a claim and they tried unsuccessfully to contact the website owner and finally settled in my favor.
 
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Silhouettic

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May 22, 2018
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Here is my best guess what is going on.

Scammer sets up a fake store. When they get an order, they use a stolen credit card to ship the item to you from a legitimate retailer (Best Buy in this case, that is why you have the Best Buy receipt in the package). Scammer then pockets the original money, and word of mouth helps them get additional orders. At some point the system collapses, they take the money and run and use any credit card/PayPal info they have for their new fraud store, scam rinse and repeats.

Something like this happened to a pilot I was paired with who used a discount bulk disposable diaper internet service. The diapers he ordered and received were actually purchased with someone else’s stolen credit card. As far as he knew, he ordered diapers and they arrived as normal. A couple of months later the police showed up on his doorstep. It turned out the real account holder noticed a fraud charge on his statement, and get the police involved. It was easy to track as the statement had the legit retailer on the statement, and the retailer had this pilot's address as the receiver of the diapers bought with the stolen credit card.

The police said later his card info would probably be used to send diapers or unrelated merchandise to others. (This was a few years ago, I am fuzzy on the exact details of the story.)

First thing I would do is change any thing that you might have inadvertently given to the scammers. (PayPal password may have been intercepted by the web site, or any credit card info given to them for example.) I would also keep any info from the “discount” web site (emailed receipts, contact numbers, web addresses) in case the police knock on the door and think you committed fraud vs being a victim yourself.

Thank you so much. This makes so much sense and the puzzle pieces fit with recent scam I fell for.
[doublepost=1527123798][/doublepost]
Best Buy for me, I appreciate the piece of mind. 30 days to return them and had a $15 off voucher. $153 with taxes and had them in 2 days, shipped to my door.

Me also. I paid full price at Best Buy after being scammed on a website similar to those discussed in this thread. And I don't mind at all because they are worth every penny. Great product those Apple Airpods.
 
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