You really don’t know that. Only in about a year or so will you be able to see how the battery has degraded.
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AirPods Max power modes - will they fix?
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I don’t mean degradation, I mean the battery energy being wasted and having to charge more often
Eventually Apple will end up making a case for the APM similar to the AP that will charge the headphones when you put them in the case. That will squash all the power button arguments.
Sad to hear that Apple went into your house and took control of your innovation that you had built yourself. ?
Seriously, dude, just quit it with the ridiculous hyperbole.
You bought a product that you didn't like, tough lemons; just return it if you can, and otherwise sell it to someone that's currently queueing to buy a pair.
Every lithium battery has a limited number of charge/discharge cycles. It's not exactly rocket science to figure out that if your battery is constantly discharging even when inactive, that's going to require more charge cycles, reducing its lifespan.
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You're not wrong, but Charge and discharge is only part of the issue, it has been understood for years that storing lithium based batteries fully charged is not a good practice as it will wear out cells prematurely too.
There are quite a few battery devices that self discharge like this to save the cells from premature failure and internal damage. DJI phantom pro batteries (for instance) will self discharge to help save the overall life of their cells. In the RC world, it has been standard guidance for various lithium style batteries to not store them fully charged for an extended period of time. This goes for both Lithium Ion and Lithium Polymer batteries.
Sounds like Apple is a bit more aggressive with this, not sure why, but hopefully there can be a less aggressive calibration to impact users a bit less.
There is no way Apple are doing this to “self discharge” due to battery wear at full charge, especially as no other Apple device does that
Oh forgot as long as your use case is covered then I’m happy ?
But seriously, this thread is to discuss is Apple can/should fix this in firmware. If you’re totally happy, then great. Totally happy for you
If you don’t like it return them or don’t buy them, you don’t have to own them, plenty of other options out there.
So we can’t discuss options for Apple to improve them at all. Ok I thought that’s what these forums are for
I don't buy the idea that a 10% charge loss overnight is due to battery maintenance. I suspect they're wanting to leverage the "Find My" functionality here.
Side note, I went to the Apple Feedback page for AirPods and got this error every time. Anybody else able to get it to work?
It is not something that most companies publicize, and there can always be a 1st device. I still think the overnight loss sounds a bit extreme and suspect there could be other factors such as what the post below touched on.
In your case do you have automatic ear detection turned on? You may have answered that in the thread already.
Sounds like a good guess, curious if anyone has done some deep dive into radio activity from these devices when they are supposed to be asleep. See what type of traffic it is generating (if any) trying to communicate with devices or Apple.
I'm fine with no on/off switch. I just put them back in the case and I've not seen severe battery drain either. I've only charged it once since I got Tuesday last week and I still have 50% charge left with a couple of hours use a day.
Er, obviously the OP owns and likes the headphones enough that he doesn't want to return them. He simply wants a firmware update that uses existing hardware functionality to allow him to turn them off.
So do I. I'm not happy that the phones self drain to levels where we know that the battery longevity is compromised, and Apple could either solve that with an auto turn-off feature when the phones aren't used and the battery goes below, say, 20%, or simply allow the users to turn them off.
If you don't care about this, implementing a power button doesn't affect you in the slightest. It would be pure benefit for those who do care without a drawback for anyone else.
Precisely
The fact that they can be 50% charged and then you leave them a few days and they run flat is unacceptable. I’m sure most of us purchased thinking the power modes would shut them off sooner or more effectively, sadly they don’t and many are returning them purely down to this.
Apart from this, I love them. This is why I’m hoping Apple will fix this and let us power off somehow. As you pointed out, this won’t affect those who want them always on, but gives functionality to those who use them more sparingly
Some can’t grasp this simple concept