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saudor

macrumors 68000
Jul 18, 2011
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Lol, all you're doing is plugging in less.

I can without ever using Low Power Mode get well over your 6-7 hour usage over the same 80-95 standby time, except I have to charge. I get 8 hours usage on a 24 hour standby charge. That's already more usage in almost a 1/4 of the standby. Why wouldn't you charge before going to bed. It's not like you're awake while it happens. Why gimp the phone with always using LPM? When you aren't even getting close to more actual usage time.

You are missing the point that it saves battery cycles and iphones are only good for about 400-500 before it starts diminishing pretty quickly. Charging once a day is basically 1 year. For people that upgrade their phones yearly, it's not a big issue. Furthermore, when it comes to reselling the phone, being able to brag that the #cycles is like 200 vs 700-800 of other folks, it becomes a strong selling point.

In ios8, even with similar usage, i was charging every 2 days when i kept it off the charger. While my usage meter was also 4-6 hours, i definitely did not actually use the phone for that long. The phone pretty much drained fast on its own without ever touching it. Actual usage was ~2 hours of music, text relay from ipad and i'd be down to 70-80%. Under ios9, i get the 6-7 hours, 80+ hours standby time while also still having about 20% charge left.

It also may mean that i may be able to push it well over 10-11 hours of more active use - something that was impossible in ios8 (by trading in some of the standby time) THis is good for those days when i need to heavily use the phone. It wont be dead by like 5pm for a 12 hour day.
 

cameronjpu

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Aug 24, 2007
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FYI - today I charged the phone for about 30 minutes in the car, total, and it's now 10PM and I have 40% battery life. I am ecstatic. Finally have a phone with suitable battery life.
 

Max(IT)

Suspended
Dec 8, 2009
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When I go onto settings and battery I can't see no "low power mode".


Why don't I have low power mode on my IPad Air 2 with IOS 9 installed(upgraded from IOS 8)""???!!!

By the way when Apple states "10 hours of battery life" it is not true because for some reason I am only getting 7/8 hours of screen time on my IPad Air 2 and set it!!!!
Your iPad 2 is aging dude.... The battery won't improve over the time.
Battery life decrease
 

cameronjpu

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i am confused, cant u just toggle it on in the settings?

Sure I can. I just don't see any reason I should have to do that 3-4 times per day (the result of it being enabled automatically as the phone charges past 80%). The goal is to not have to think about the battery so often every day. I don't think that's a lot to ask from a company which markets itself as making things that "just work", so you don't have to constantly change settings.
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
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Sure I can. I just don't see any reason I should have to do that 3-4 times per day (the result of it being enabled automatically as the phone charges past 80%). The goal is to not have to think about the battery so often every day. I don't think that's a lot to ask from a company which markets itself as making things that "just work", so you don't have to constantly change settings.
It's exactly the reason why they likely wouldn't want this option to be enabled indefinitely for many who might not even realize it and have a phone that isn't working to its fullest potential. I'm not saying that's good or bad, just that there's likely reasoning behind it (even if some might not care about or agree with it).
 

Small White Car

macrumors G4
Aug 29, 2006
10,972
1,468
Washington DC
I don't want to go manually change all my settings to match LP mode because, hello, Apple just created one slider to do all that, and the last thing I want to do is to be changing a bunch of settings manually all the time and then changing them back as needed. All I want is a slider on the battery page that says "automatically go back to full power mode when charged? (On/Off)".

Simple, right?

No, I'm confused. Why would you need to be changing them back and forth?

Turn off background app refresh. Put mail in manual. Disable location services for every app instead of maps. Turn 'auto lock' to 30 seconds, etc.

I mean, sure, it'll take a minute, but it will give you what you want. If you're going in and messing with them then you're not getting low power mode all of the time, which is what you said you wanted. There's little point in turning on low power mode when you're not using the phone and then turning it off when you do use it. You'll just be using the power on the same tasks as if you'd done nothing at all.

The point is to, as you said, leave it on ALL of time if you really want to see results.

If your intent is to constantly toggle back and forth then just give up. You're gonna go to a lot of trouble to see very little result.
 
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cameronjpu

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No, I'm confused. Why would you need to be changing them back and forth?

Turn off background app refresh. Put mail in manual. Disable location services for every app instead of maps. Turn 'auto lock' to 30 seconds, etc.

I mean, sure, it'll take a minute, but it will give you what you want. If you're going in and messing with them then you're not getting low power mode all of the time, which is what you said you wanted. There's little point in turning on low power mode when you're not using the phone and then turning it off when you do use it. You'll just be using the power on the same tasks as if you'd done nothing at all.

The point is to, as you said, leave it on ALL of time if you really want to see results.

If your intent is to constantly toggle back and forth then just give up. You're gonna go to a lot of trouble to see very little result.

Oh yeah, just go through those "three little steps" that are actually about 100 taps, and you're done!

No, I know this is hard for Apple lovers/apologists, but if Apple would just do one tiny thing to change how it works (by adding ONE more slider on/off) it would save me a lot of time and trouble. Can't you just see that that wouldn't be such a big deal? Instead you have to try to tell me all the reasons YOU think I don't really want what I know I want?
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
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Oh yeah, just go through those "three little steps" that are actually about 100 taps, and you're done!

No, I know this is hard for Apple lovers/apologists, but if Apple would just do one tiny thing to change how it works (by adding ONE more slider on/off) it would save me a lot of time and trouble. Can't you just see that that wouldn't be such a big deal? Instead you have to try to tell me all the reasons YOU think I don't really want what I know I want?
I think the underlying point there is that Apple doesn't want to offer that functionality. Sure it'd be useful to some people, but that doesn't really change Apple's approach to these types of things. Again, it's not to say it's good or right, but basically how they likely approach it and why it is the way it is and not likely to change.
 

gaanee

macrumors 65816
Dec 8, 2011
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When your phone is idle and you have set all these tasks to manual, is the processor still running in the background? If so, then low power mode which underclocks the processor could help.

I am doing some testing to figure out how much more battery life I can get, but then sometimes you don't remember to turn off LPM and get not very fluent app loading, animations etc.

No, I'm confused. Why would you need to be changing them back and forth?

Turn off background app refresh. Put mail in manual. Disable location services for every app instead of maps. Turn 'auto lock' to 30 seconds, etc.

I mean, sure, it'll take a minute, but it will give you what you want. If you're going in and messing with them then you're not getting low power mode all of the time, which is what you said you wanted. There's little point in turning on low power mode when you're not using the phone and then turning it off when you do use it. You'll just be using the power on the same tasks as if you'd done nothing at all.

The point is to, as you said, leave it on ALL of time if you really want to see results.

If your intent is to constantly toggle back and forth then just give up. You're gonna go to a lot of trouble to see very little result.
 

Small White Car

macrumors G4
Aug 29, 2006
10,972
1,468
Washington DC
Instead you have to try to tell me all the reasons YOU think I don't really want what I know I want?
I'm not telling you what I think. I'm telling you what you said:
All I want is Low Power mode all the time

It now seems that that's not what you want. Ok, fine. But that's not me forcing my ideas on you. That's you changing what you want from what the title of the thread originally said.
 

sbailey4

macrumors 601
Dec 5, 2011
4,571
3,253
USA
Sure I can. I just don't see any reason I should have to do that 3-4 times per day (the result of it being enabled automatically as the phone charges past 80%). The goal is to not have to think about the battery so often every day. I don't think that's a lot to ask from a company which markets itself as making things that "just work", so you don't have to constantly change settings.
Well then that's the suggestion already given, set the settings that LPM does ONCE and then leave it alone and you don't have to flip the switch multiple times a day or have to think about the battery so often every day. Problem solved. I guess the "reason" they don't do what you are asking is that the option is already available as mentioned for folks who what it that way, change your settings ONCE and leave it. The LPM switch is for an entirely different reason than what you want it for. I am sure they cant make a switch for each person who wants a device to work specifically how they want it to. :)
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
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When your phone is idle and you have set all these tasks to manual, is the processor still running in the background? If so, then low power mode which underclocks the processor could help.

I am doing some testing to figure out how much more battery life I can get, but then sometimes you don't remember to turn off LPM and get not very fluent app loading, animations etc.
Some testing results here: http://www.idownloadblog.com/2015/0...ificantly-increase-your-iphones-battery-life/
 

gaanee

macrumors 65816
Dec 8, 2011
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cameronjpu

macrumors 65816
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Aug 24, 2007
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I think the underlying point there is that Apple doesn't want to offer that functionality. Sure it'd be useful to some people, but that doesn't really change Apple's approach to these types of things. Again, it's not to say it's good or right, but basically how they likely approach it and why it is the way it is and not likely to change.

I disagree. They just made a big step towards offering just that, and if they get feedback from people who are happy with it, wanting more, they could very well listen. I know Apple isn't known for listening to its customers, but sometimes, rare as it is, they do listen.
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
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I disagree. They just made a big step towards offering just that, and if they get feedback from people who are happy with it, wanting more, they could very well listen. I know Apple isn't known for listening to its customers, but sometimes, rare as it is, they do listen.
Well, all I can say is good luck with it. Certainly many more much more useful features or even basic options have been requested for years now without much movement on Apple's side to address them. But no one really knows what they will do, so anything is possible.
 

zorinlynx

macrumors G3
May 31, 2007
8,353
18,580
Florida, USA
Change all fetch E-mail accounts to "Manual". Turn off the master "Background app refresh" switch. This should give you the equivalent of low power mode all the time.
 

Bearxor

macrumors 6502a
Jun 7, 2007
785
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I'm not telling you what I think. I'm telling you what you said:
All I want is Low Power mode all the time

It now seems that that's not what you want. Ok, fine. But that's not me forcing my ideas on you. That's you changing what you want from what the title of the thread originally said.
Yeah, I'm confused myself.

If you want the equivalent of low power mode all the time then manually doing the steps to enable it one time don't seem like that big of a deal.

I also imagine that your use case would make up a very small percentage of customers. But hey, if you want it, make sure you go to apple.com/feedback and request it. If enough people complain about it, maybe they'll work in the option at some point.
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
51,392
19,461
Change all fetch E-mail accounts to "Manual". Turn off the master "Background app refresh" switch. This should give you the equivalent of low power mode all the time.
That's a decent chunk of it, but there's a fair bit more.
 

cameronjpu

macrumors 65816
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Aug 24, 2007
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Yeah, I'm confused myself.

If you want the equivalent of low power mode all the time then manually doing the steps to enable it one time don't seem like that big of a deal.

I also imagine that your use case would make up a very small percentage of customers. But hey, if you want it, make sure you go to apple.com/feedback and request it. If enough people complain about it, maybe they'll work in the option at some point.

According to the link I posted early in this thread, the VAST majority of people who responded to a poll asking what new feature they wanted in the next iPhone (which was the 6S) requested better battery life.

I want the ability to turn LPM off and on, even if it's only once every couple days. I don't want to have to change a multitude of settings. The LPM setting works very well. They just need to make it an option that it does not turn itself off if you don't want it to.
 

jabingla2810

macrumors 68020
Oct 15, 2008
2,271
938
I don't think we should have the option to manually enable it. It creates confusion and adds complexity to 'managing' your device.
 
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