iPad makes sense. iPhone doesn’t. It enables iPad to connect to high res external displays. Remember Stage Manager? Also high speed external storage. No such application for iPhone.
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Other All the "Apple should pull out of Europe" commenters are real quiet now
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iPad makes sense. iPhone doesn’t. It enables iPad to connect to high res external displays. Remember Stage Manager? Also high speed external storage. No such application for iPhone.
Of course. Apple is a business. It's financially more profitable to continue with lightning as long as practically possible.
USB C will be one of the headlines Apple uses (ie "This is our best iphone yet. We think you're gonna love it") as part of their product launch, alongside several other upgrades...
For me, I'm happy Apple have been forced to adopt USB C for the iphone. Should have happened years earlier...
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I guess we should disable prores video recording...
Or only transfer 10's (if not hundreds) of GB of data using wifi only...
What if people don’t want their iPhones cooking on a MagSafe charger overnight? What about transferring content off the phone?
Apple are probably secretly delighted by this decision as it provides "cover" for dropping lightning. Thunderbolt on the Pro phones and USC-C 3.2 on the others (a bit like the iPad Pros and Air).
Personally I'll be happy to standardise on USB-C and it will prevent me seeing lots of typos with people no longer typing "lightening" into posts...
Personally I'll be happy to standardise on USB-C and it will prevent me seeing lots of typos with people no longer typing "lightening" into posts...
For what reason would they do this? There's no benefit to that at all.
Apple was going to move the entire lineup to USB-C anyway, the most this legislation could do is accelerate their timeline. I am not sure I agree with the nature of this legislation, but I promised myself last year already that I won't buy another lighting-based Apple product. Apple's rhetorics around it is laughable.
Yep, I think the same. Of course, they have to say that they disagree with this et cetera as they have to oppose this kind of regulation, but they were already moving their lineup to USB-C anyway.
Yes the 'pull out of Europe' brigade have conspicuously gone very quiet. I am surprised I have not seen many more 'If EU do not like then they should build their own phone' because that is the argument Apple fans and their supporters use time and time again in this forum when people voice a negative view/opinion about Apple, 'if you don't like it, go build <........> youself' is what they say.
What advantage(s) does Apple have in hanging on to lightning outside of Europe?
I am not sure I see the logic.
This hypothetical person you are referencing is saying that Apple should exit the European market. Not that they would.
What sort of reaction were you even expecting from them again?
I doubt it cuz lots of Americans would rather USB C too and would get real fired up if we get USB-C over here and they don't (especially from a company that ditched every single port BUT USB-C on their laptops years ago).
They are probably busy packing to pull out of Europe.
I hope they spite europe and go full portless.
Law only effects brand new models manufactured/designed after the law comes into effect end of 2024. Enough time for the 15 series in 2023, 16 series to release in 2024 before the laws date to come with lightning. Fall 2025=portless 16 series. Apple have been working on portless tech for a while so 2025 seems reasonable.
Law only effects brand new models manufactured/designed after the law comes into effect end of 2024. Enough time for the 15 series in 2023, 16 series to release in 2024 before the laws date to come with lightning. Fall 2025=portless 16 series. Apple have been working on portless tech for a while so 2025 seems reasonable.
Like I said, Wi-Fi 6E.
Surely, you must know by now if Apple thinks their vision is best, they will do it. What if people want removable storage? What about people who want a headphone jack? SIM cards?
For the last time: Going portless is a horrible idea on so many levels
Going portless means data recovery goes bye bye, as well as OS recovery as installing a fresh OS backup of iOS or recovering a corrupted iPhone requires a physical connection
Going portless also means data transfer becomes an even bigger nightmare with how often the wireless AirDrops of big files fail
Going portless means wired headphones become unusable even more than they are already as now without a headphone jack or a spot for a dongle you're forced to use expensive jank bluetooth headphones that eventually will no longer hold a charge and cannot support lossless quality.
Not to mention charging via wireless is a lot slower than physical connections, and wastes so much electricity with how inaccurate it is.
That would double the number of iPhones models per year and sounds like it would cost a good bit extra in r&d over just doing one I/O for every model in the lineup for all markets.
And seeing how big the interest is for an USB-C iPhone globally before Apple even launches one, I guarantee you that EU to US of USB-C iPhone imports would exceed the supply and lead to iPhone shortages in the EU while US retail would face the opposite problem and struggle to sell iPhone Lightning.
Apple has to go all in on USB-C or risk creating a costly chaos that will not sit well with investors or consumers.
I'm sorry did you miss the hundreds of replies in the MacRumors forums and Twitter that said Apple should pull out of the EU in retaliation to regulation?
Dude, who cares about what a small and I mean small percent of the human population have to say on Twitter? Twitter is not real life at all. Nobody should take it seriously.
I also failed to see the “hundreds” of replies about pulling out of Europe here on MacRumors. I’d also take things said here with a grain of salt.
But then why on earth did Apple do ProRes on iPhones? I’m supposed to record 100s of GBs of raw footage on my 1TB Pro Max and just sit around and wait for hours to transfer via lightning?
Money making always trumps retaliation so pulling out of the EU is not an option under any circumstances, not for a company like Apple or really most viable businesses.