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lugworm

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The Urbane is already being sold at the Google Store, too:

https://store.google.com/product/lg_watch_urbane

It says it "leaves the warehouse by May 8". Don't know if that mean there's a delay, or they're just being conservative.

Regardless of performance, that's what the apple watch should have looked like.
Instead of the cheap, plastic looking square lump clamped to your wrist courtesy of "those who may not be critisised".
 

Lloydbm41

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Aaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrghhh, if true!

Source?

PS. I just looked. Here's the FCC test report for WiFi on the LGWR:

The reason the G Watch and G Watch R aren't getting updated isn't because of the Wi-Fi chip (which they do have, hence the FCC report), it's because they lack Wi-Fi antennas. LG just didn't pack them into the G Watch and G Watch R.
 

kdarling

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The reason the G Watch and G Watch R aren't getting updated isn't because of the Wi-Fi chip (which they do have, hence the FCC report), it's because they lack Wi-Fi antennas. LG just didn't pack them into the G Watch and G Watch R.

Yeah, I know that multiple tech websites have repeated that claim.

However, there are two major factors that contradict such claims.

1. On almost every device these days, WiFi uses the same antenna as Bluetooth... and we KNOW there's a Bluetooth antenna.

2. The FCC test of WiFi for the LG Watch R, even shows its location as being the metal case:

lgwr-antenna-wifi.png
 

Lloydbm41

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Yeah, I know that multiple tech websites have repeated that claim.

However, there are two major factors that contradict such claims.

1. On almost every device these days, WiFi uses the same antenna as Bluetooth... and we KNOW there's a Bluetooth antenna.

2. The FCC test of WiFi for the LG Watch R, even shows its location as being the metal case:

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I'm only going off what news sites are confirming from LG. According to them, LG confirmed that the G Watch R will not get the wifi portion of the update.

True, or not, the very fact that this is in doubt is enough for me to not even consider the G Watch R.
 

tbayrgs

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I'm only going off what news sites are confirming from LG. According to them, LG confirmed that the G Watch R will not get the wifi portion of the update.

True, or not, the very fact that this is in doubt is enough for me to not even consider the G Watch R.

My brief research led me to XDA and the same conclusion. A poster there contacted LG who advised them of the same thing, that the wifi portion of the update will not work on either the LG G Watch or G Watch R.

It has been confirmed that the Moto 360 will get it though, correct? I don't really like the design but considering the recently discounted price, is probably best choice for me to compare Android Wear to the Apple Watch.
 

Lloydbm41

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My brief research led me to XDA and the same conclusion. A poster there contacted LG who advised them of the same thing, that the wifi portion of the update will not work on either the LG G Watch or G Watch R.

It has been confirmed that the Moto 360 will get it though, correct? I don't really like the design but considering the recently discounted price, is probably best choice for me to compare Android Wear to the Apple Watch.

Yep, 360 is getting the update (confirmed by Motorola) and considering the $179 price tag on the Google store, I think I am going to pull the trigger on that one just like you. I prefer the look of the G Watch R and Urbane over the 360, but don't want to spend a lot of money on Android Wear yet.
I really, really hope Android Wear is coming to iOS and will be revealed next month at Google I/O. Otherwise, I will have no choice but to go back to using Android phones. The Apple Watch is plagued with issues and I can't stand the way it looks.
 

kdarling

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I'm only going off what news sites are confirming from LG. According to them, LG confirmed that the G Watch R will not get the wifi portion of the update.

I've seen it "confirmed by LG" both ways, so I wouldn't trust the internet even a tiny bit in this case.

I do trust the FCC, though, and the documents there show that WiFi _does_ have access to the antenna. Therefore the claims that are based off there not being an antenna, are utter nonsense.

The only reason it might not get it turned on, would be a dumb management decision, not a technical one.

True, or not, the very fact that this is in doubt is enough for me to not even consider the G Watch R.

If you only plan to get one, I would advise to wait, because the LGWR is superior to the Moto 360, IMO.

I love both, but the LG looks more like a traditional watch, looks good with all kinds of bands, and more importantly, it runs for a longer time and with the display always on brightly, even in ambient mode.

To me, a longtime watch wearer, the last feature has made it my favorite daily driver.

Regards.
 

bandrews

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Regardless of performance, that's what the apple watch should have looked like.
Instead of the cheap, plastic looking square lump clamped to your wrist courtesy of "those who may not be critisised".

Why is everyone so obsessed with the Apple watch having to look like an average mechanical wristwatch? If someone showed me that in a lineup of high end or even mid range watches I wouldn't give it a second look.
 

Lloydbm41

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I've seen it "confirmed by LG" both ways, so I wouldn't trust the internet even a tiny bit in this case.

I do trust the FCC, though, and the documents there show that WiFi _does_ have access to the antenna. Therefore the claims that are based off there not being an antenna, are utter nonsense.

The only reason it might not get it turned on, would be a dumb management decision, not a technical one.



If you only plan to get one, I would advise to wait, because the LGWR is superior to the Moto 360, IMO.

I love both, but the LG looks more like a traditional watch, looks good with all kinds of bands, and more importantly, it runs for a longer time and with the display always on brightly, even in ambient mode.

To me, a longtime watch wearer, the last feature has made it my favorite daily driver.

Regards.

Since I prefer to use my iPhone 6 over my Moto X or Nexus 5, I don't want to spend much money on Android Wear at this point, UNTIL Google confirms that Apple is adding Android Wear to the app store. I can eat the $179 price tag for the Moto 360 if Android Wear never goes to iOS. I'm less inclined to spend $350 for the Urbane at this point, even though it is my preference in terms of looks, BUT if AW was on ios right now, I would buy the Urbane.
 

spriter

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Just ordered the Urbane for tomorrow. Probably won't keep it but I like the styling so willing to give smart watches another try.

Looking for one that looks nice, is easy to glance at often, and does notifications. Anything else is phone time.
 
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lugworm

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Why is everyone so obsessed with the Apple watch having to look like an average mechanical wristwatch? If someone showed me that in a lineup of high end or even mid range watches I wouldn't give it a second look.

Because as it stands, the Apple watch looks cheap and plasticky compared to even the lowest priced mechanical watch. It resembles a toy, in my eyes.
 

bandrews

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Because as it stands, the Apple watch looks cheap and plasticky compared to even the lowest priced mechanical watch. It resembles a toy, in my eyes.

In your eyes. In my eyes only the Apple watch and the 360 and maybe the Sony watch offer anything new style wise. Love it or hate it, the Apple strap system makes the Apple watch the only smartwatch capable of taking it from a fitness tracker to a dress watch. Style wise, with the SS link bracelet the Apple watch reminds me of a Rado watch (contemporary analogue watches, many with square faces). However plastic-y it may look, build quality wise, it's feels premium and looks much better in the metal.

Take a look at the LG Urbane. Swipe away from its masculine, sophisticated watch face and you have brightly coloured circles and the rather cartoonish google now with quite heavy presence of white - a bit clashy with the physical form of the watch.

To me, those faux analogue chronograph faces make it seem like smartwatch makers are apologetically searching for acceptance in the watch market rather than doing their own thing. Much like the sort of people who worry a white phone doesn't look "professional" or "masculine".
 
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Lloydbm41

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In your eyes. In my eyes only the Apple watch and the 360 and maybe the Sony watch offer anything new style wise. Love it or hate it, the Apple strap system makes the Apple watch the only smartwatch capable of taking it from a fitness tracker to a dress watch.
??? Standard watch strap sizing means a ton of watch strap option are available for watches like the 360. How can you possibly make this statement?

Take a look at the LG Urbane. Swipe away from its masculine, sophisticated watch face and you have brightly coloured circles and the rather cartoonish google now with quite heavy presence of white - a bit clashy with the physical form of the watch.
I can see your point of view with the google now cards, but not all apps are Google now card based either. And you are comparing one cartoony interface to the Appple Watch which is a bunch of brightly colored little bubbles you have to swipe around on screen to find your app? Or how about the childish and gimmicky let me send you a stupid little picture I drew on a tiny screen, or my heartbeat? But I guess things like this don't clash with the physical form of the Apple Watch.
 

tbayrgs

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??? Standard watch strap sizing means a ton of watch strap option are available for watches like the 360. How can you possibly make this statement?

I think his point is the Apple Watch's straps are quite easily changed in a matter of seconds. Nobody is going to sit down with a watch tool to constantly swap out bands on the Moto 360 or LG G Watches. I have a handful of mechanical watches but each is geared towards certain types of attire--nicer designs and bands for more formal attire and more rugged designs with plastic/rubber type bands for active times. The Apple Watch lets the same watch easily be adapted to these different situations.
 

Lloydbm41

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I think his point is the Apple Watch's straps are quite easily changed in a matter of seconds. Nobody is going to sit down with a watch tool to constantly swap out bands on the Moto 360 or LG G Watches. I have a handful of mechanical watches but each is geared towards certain types of attire--nicer designs and bands for more formal attire and more rugged designs with plastic/rubber type bands for active times. The Apple Watch lets the same watch easily be adapted to these different situations.

Some straps may require more time than others to change. Didn't realize there was a timeframe requirement here. If there is, then a lot of standard watch straps now come with quick release bolts. My Notifier comes with these for instance, allowing me to change straps in a few seconds with no tools.
 

bandrews

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??? Standard watch strap sizing means a ton of watch strap option are available for watches like the 360. How can you possibly make this statement?


I can see your point of view with the google now cards, but not all apps are Google now card based either. And you are comparing one cartoony interface to the Appple Watch which is a bunch of brightly colored little bubbles you have to swipe around on screen to find your app? Or how about the childish and gimmicky let me send you a stupid little picture I drew on a tiny screen, or my heartbeat? But I guess things like this don't clash with the physical form of the Apple Watch.

I don't find bright colours annoying. I embrace colour. I love iOS 7/8. I love Android 5.1. My idea of a cool classic watch is the Casio F91WC. I was merely pointing out that anyone going with a smartwatch with a classic chassis hoping for a toned down interface as an antidote to apple's watch ui might be disappointed by the occasionally bright ui - from the videos I've seen the Urbane has brightly coloured circular icons too, Google health and voice control also have predominantly white backgrounds.

I've currently got a Nexus 6. Looking at the 360 - esp now it's only £160.

My point about the straps is that regardless of whether or not you like the styling of the Apple Watch, switching out the sport band for a leather or metal link strap quite drastically changes the look. Sony actually is probably the only other company that achieves the same shift in style through changing the strap.
 
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vikingjunior

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I just returned my Apple watch its a long annoying story but I'm looking at Android watches but I cant find one that does actual calling on the watch like the Apple watch. That was the best thing about the watch. Any help?
 

Lloydbm41

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I just returned my Apple watch its a long annoying story but I'm looking at Android watches but I cant find one that does actual calling on the watch like the Apple watch. That was the best thing about the watch. Any help?

Apple Watch doesn't actually make calls without the phone directly linked to it though? Both LG and Samsung make LTE smartwatches for calling though, if that is your thing.
 

bmac4

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I just returned my Apple watch its a long annoying story but I'm looking at Android watches but I cant find one that does actual calling on the watch like the Apple watch. That was the best thing about the watch. Any help?
I was just curious when you used the feature? It was a feature that looked cool in principal, but I don't think I would use it much. I would not be using it in public at all, so that kind of limits the feature for me.
 

roadbloc

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I've heard great things about the Microsoft Band. Apparently it's battery life is a good 2-3 days and it has lots of functionality and uses, as well as being open to other ecosystems such as iOS and Android.
 

lugworm

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Who on earth would class an apple watch as a "dress watch" ? It might well be good at what it does, but a dress watch ??
 

I7guy

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I was just curious when you used the feature? It was a feature that looked cool in principal, but I don't think I would use it much. I would not be using it in public at all, so that kind of limits the feature for me.

I clearly would not want to pay for yet another data plan.
 
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