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[pl1984]

sorry, i'm not sure what specific benchmark you were making an analogy of, there are a few now being thrown around.

Which is why I said:

The graph in post 23 shows the memory was DDR4​

Is there anything ambiguous about which benchmark I'm referring to?

i do accept that memory speed is not a significant factor of performance. i do accept that error checking memory is not a significant factor either. i have been saying this all along. but the whole debate is about that small difference.

the difference is considered insignificant by most people, that's why there's so few benchmarks on it. but it doesn't mean this difference does not exist. the 2% figure came from manufacturers themselves, so it holds weight.

Where did the 10 FPS come from? Please provide a reference to the 2% you're using.

 

[h9826790]

what i find funny, hilarious actually, is that everyone here thinks 2% overall system degradation is insignificant. but a 10fps drop in a game, well that's just downright intolerable! proves my point that people are very upset about losing frames and will want to avoid ecc if it means even one fps is lost.

You didn't prove anything. And 10FPS is not 2% in 60FPS, 2% is just 1.2FPS not 10FPS in that case.

I don't know how many people will care if the game run at exactly 60FPS or 58.8FPS.

And ActionableMango said that in post #15, if 2% is 10FPS, then who cares, because that means you have 500FPS originally. Who care if the game run at 500FPS or 490FPS? May be you are the only person care.

However, than you said that according to your own invented non linear special illogical scale tailor made for gaming (and for this discussion). That 10FPS can be 2% for any FPS???? Ad you claim that ActionableMango use a wrong formula, but you never ever able to provide any formula.

No one assume 2% is 10FPS, all our calculation base on solid maths equation, and you are the only person assume 2% is 10FPS with absolutely no calculation, formula, evidence provided.

 

[ActionableMango]

haha i was waiting for someone to say that! you get the gold star. exactly right.

i'm a bit busy now but i will come back to discuss the other points in a bit

Well, if it's for my benefit you don't need to bother. I'm out of this thread.

If you knew the 2% figure was old and was using it anyway while attacking newer information, then we aren't having a genuine and productive discussion. It seems like you are more interested in messing around with people, in which case you've successfully trolled me.

 

[pl1984]

Well, if it's for my benefit you don't need to bother. I'm out of this thread.

If you knew the 2% figure was old and was using it anyway while attacking newer information, then we aren't having a genuine and productive discussion. It seems like you are more interested in messing around with people, in which case you've successfully trolled me.

I think you're right, several us fell for it. I'm out too.

 

[Mago]

#1 do you need an expensive xeon cpu? probably not. the main reason to get a xeon is so you can run multiple cpus or ecc memory.

Not really, AMD's ThreadRippers are good for me, new TR are even better than xeons except on raw single threaded process where Intil still wins by a mere head.

#2 do you need ecc memory? if an error in your work means someone could die, then you need ecc, otherwise it's optional. memory errors are extremely rare, and are usually harmless. non-ecc is cheaper and runs faster, so it's better in several aspects.

Yes, Even if Available a good GPU should include ECC too. (As nVidia Tesla/Volta)

#3 do you need a "professional" graphics card? a top end gamer card runs faster and better in most autodesk apps than a low end quadro/firepro these days, most people don't know that.

No, I Need a GPGPU card, but some users may be good with Repuported Gaming card as nVidia Titan-V and save a lot.

#4 brand name or diy? a diy system is cheaper and lets you customize everything. all parts in a diy system do have a manufacturers warranty. custom shops can build a diy system to your specifications and some offer support contracts. benefits of buying a brand name can vary by brand, some benefits may be dubious/worthless. the best benefit of apple to me is being able to run osX apps and windows apps. HP, dell, and etc offer no benefits that i care about.

Its depends, are you buying for yourself? Yes-> consider DIY build if you know what are you doing, else purchase a good Branded system.

if not, consider Branded system support in TCO, DIY system's TCO use to be higher for business,

OS: windows if you need stuff from Adobe or Autedesk or comercial publishers not available in Linux.

If you are in ML/AR/HPC linux is the way, I suggest you KDE Neon as the best Workstation Distro, specially if you use Android Phones.

 

[throAU]

Can that run MacOS?

I haven't tried, but people have managed to get MacOS onto Ryzen.

 

[AidenShaw]

No, I Need a GPGPU card, but some users may be good with Repuported Gaming card as nVidia Titan-V and save a lot.

As near as I can tell, the only big difference between a Quadro V100 and Titan V is that the Titan V drivers won't enable ECC. (That, and a handful or two of thousands of dollars in price depending on the memory config.)

Same V100 chip, same number for Tensor/CUDA cores, ....