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Ashin

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Jun 19, 2010
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The times are from the last 24 hours (or up to 7 days), they don't line up with the last time the phone was fully charged. So no direct comparisons could really be made given two different starting points (unless the last time you fully charged happens to be exactly 24 hours ago at that moment).

Oh dear logic really does go right past you doesn't it.

It wouldn't exactly be difficult to fully charge your phone, then come back after 24 hours to see the usage (and add up screen time). The "usage" stats reset on full charge, and the "last 24 hours" would therefore correlate in time.

iOS has always had tons of phantom usage anyway, but you seem to think background "usage" when the screen is off is fine - so whatever.

However, I would argue that the competitor (Android) is scrutinised by screen on time as a metric for battery life, so really Apple's "usage" stats are just disingenuous in this regard (and making stats available for the last 24 hours is just there to confuse users like this poor guy (quoted below) who swallowed your words as gospel and started harping about 'correlation' - what's the point in battery stats you can't correlate easily - saying that, like I said above you can just return 24 hours later for your battery stats to line up with your last full charge).

"Obviously" there is no correlation since they are different time periods. Duh.

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""Obviously"" come back to see your usage 24 hours after you fully charged it if you want correlation? I mean, this isn't rocket science mate. "Duh"

Saying that - the whole "last 24 hours" thing is useless, it should reset every full charge. Apple are just scared to put in easy to correlate screen on time as their battery life myth quickly falls apart as people realise a lot of their "usage" is when the screen is off.
 
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bandofbrothers

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Oct 14, 2007
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I use facebook from within Safari. There's no need to download an app for it. Plus, you can use facebook messenger from the website as well without having another app for that too.

I use the Facebook App called Paper

I find it nicer on my iPhone's and iPad Air's resources.
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
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Oh dear logic really does go right past you doesn't it.

It wouldn't exactly be difficult to fully charge your phone, then come back after 24 hours to see the usage (and add up screen time). The "usage" stats reset on full charge, and the "last 24 hours" would therefore correlate in time.

iOS has always had tons of phantom usage anyway, but you seem to think background "usage" when the screen is off is fine - so whatever.

However, I would argue that the competitor (Android) is scrutinised by screen on time as a metric for battery life, so really Apple's "usage" stats are just disingenuous in this regard (and making stats available for the last 24 hours is just there to confuse users like this poor guy (quoted below) who swallowed your words as gospel and started harping about 'correlation' - what's the point in battery stats you can't correlate easily - saying that, like I said above you can just return 24 hours later for your battery stats to line up with your last full charge).



""Obviously"" come back to see your usage 24 hours after you fully charged it if you want correlation? I mean, this isn't rocket science mate. "Duh"

Saying that - the whole "last 24 hours" thing is useless, it should reset every full charge. Apple are just scared to put in easy to correlate screen on time as their battery life myth quickly falls apart as people realise a lot of their "usage" is when the screen is off.
Sounds like the logic was escaping you quite a bit there until this was pointed out a number of times without you mentioning a thing about it and then suddenly changing it to use the method I suggested to make it all align with a 24 hour wondow. Not everyone by far keeps their phone off the charger for 24 hours or more, many people simply charge the phone overnight or some other times, so wouldn't be aligned at 24 hour intervals, or then even remember to check their phone right at that exact time to make sure it's aligned correctly. So, yeah, not quite what you were taking about before glossing over all that. But sure, jump on my lack of logic (and then use the very method I suggested).
 

Perene

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Jun 29, 2015
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I am also curious, since I had an iPAD 4 with iOS 7 and after this update to 9, I noticed a serious decrease in the battery life. Perhaps that can only happen when the brightness is 90%? Yet I didn't notice this while using iOS 7. Usually it would drain if I watched only videos, this time it was videos + downloads. And it drained only after a few hours. I'll investigate later, this is my first impression.
 

Ashin

macrumors 6502a
Jun 19, 2010
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Sounds like the logic was escaping you quite a bit there until this was pointed out a number of times without you mentioning a thing about it and then suddenly changing it to use the method I suggested to make it all align with a 24 hour wondow. Not everyone by far keeps their phone off the charger for 24 hours or more, many people simply charge the phone overnight or some other times, so wouldn't be aligned at 24 hour intervals, or then even remember to check their phone right at that exact time to make sure it's aligned correctly. So, yeah, not quite what you were taking about before glossing over all that. But sure, jump on my lack of logic (and then use the very method I suggested).
You didn't suggest any method - don't act as if you did. You merely tried to belittle me.
 

Mlrollin91

macrumors G5
Nov 20, 2008
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You're obviously looking at the wrong thing
No. The battery is based off of the last 24 hours, not since last charged. Therefore, your math is incorrect.

But regardless your hypothesis is incorrect anyway. Background usage is still usage. Therefore it does matter what your total usage time is. Just because your screen is off means nothing. I have all my services set to push. So everything is constantly updating in the background which requires power and is therefore usage.
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
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You didn't suggest any method - don't act as if you did. You merely tried to belittle me.
Nice try. The method of aligning the charging with the last 24 hours you mentioned was the one I specifically refrenced in my reply. And no belittling whatsoever was present in what I said.

Unfortunately what it's looking like is that the only person who is coming off as having a fairly obvious confrontational and belittling agenda here would be you.

Here's my reply for reference (which can be seen earlier in the thread, and which you quoted in your reply) so that there could be no doubt about what I said vs. what you keep on trying to incorrectly imply was there:
The times are from the last 24 hours (or up to 7 days), they don't line up with the last time the phone was fully charged. So no direct comparisons could really be made given two different starting points (unless the last time you fully charged happens to be exactly 24 hours ago at that moment).
 
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