Am I crazy? D750

[monokakata]

Freida, are you completely ignoring the 28-300?

I'm so, so, not one of those "I have one, so it's great and everybody should buy one" people. Earlier in this thread I laid out its shortcomings -- it's definitely not the equal of those high-end lenses others are talking about. But it's fairly small, and light, and unless I misunderstand you, the first place your new rig is going is on a trip. I'd suggest that being able to go to 300 (yes, at a fairly small aperture) will come in very handy while touring.

In the US, its price is a bit more than half of the 24-70's.

I took mine out of the cabinet the other day and mounted it on the D810 because I wanted a one-lens solution for what I was going to do. It did its job. I've never regretted buying it although it's certainly true that if I can take three or four lenses with me, the 28-300 stays home.

But as others have said, I urge you to handle the 750 and 810 both. Sometimes little things prove important. For example, I am very often holding my D810 in my hand, down at my side. The 810's grip is significantly deeper than the D800's, and I really like that because it gives me a firmer, more natural hold on the camera. Another person might not care in the least. You can only find out what suits you (or doesn't) by handling them.

[ edit ] Ah, I see that you're going to wait until after your trip. Therefore my "good for a trip" suggestion is irrelevant.

 

[Freida]

What an idiot! So it's certinly quieter than my old D300 used to be. Comparable to my D7100. In quiet mode it seems quiet enough to me. I've photographed squirrels without any issues.

Cool, good to know. Yeah i was asking about how loud it is as some reviews mentioned that D750 is quite loud compared to D810 which made me wonder if its the same as D90 loudness or worse
But I look forward to test it when I get back from india.
Hope my decision to wait based on a suggestion will be worth it otherwise I'll be disappointed that I didn't buy it before the trip.
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Freida, are you completely ignoring the 28-300?

I'm so, so, not one of those "I have one, so it's great and everybody should buy one" people. Earlier in this thread I laid out its shortcomings -- it's definitely not the equal of those high-end lenses others are talking about. But it's fairly small, and light, and unless I misunderstand you, the first place your new rig is going is on a trip. I'd suggest that being able to go to 300 (yes, at a fairly small aperture) will come in very handy while touring.

In the US, its price is a bit more than half of the 24-70's.

I took mine out of the cabinet the other day and mounted it on the D810 because I wanted a one-lens solution for what I was going to do. It did its job. I've never regretted buying it although it's certainly true that if I can take three or four lenses with me, the 28-300 stays home.

But as others have said, I urge you to handle the 750 and 810 both. Sometimes little things prove important. For example, I am very often holding my D810 in my hand, down at my side. The 810's grip is significantly deeper than the D800's, and I really like that because it gives me a firmer, more natural hold on the camera. Another person might not care in the least. You can only find out what suits you (or doesn't) by handling them.

[ edit ] Ah, I see that you're going to wait until after your trip. Therefore my "good for a trip" suggestion is irrelevant.

I've heard about that lens before and it does seem like a good suggestion but for now I wanted to buy one that is pretty much the best as it will last me a lifetime. For my needs its 24-70 at the moment and eventually if I do decided to do more wildlife etc. then I will invest in another zoom one so 70-200 or 300 etc.
I think I will probably be fine with having just one best lens from the 'holy trinity' but that is expected as I'm not doing this for living. Even now I still think that D750 is little overkill for me but I also believe that once I improve I will be happier with the choice. As someone mentioned before, there is probably not gonna be much difference in IQ between D750 and D1050 in the future. So I expect the D750 to last me for as long as the body works. If D90 didn't have such a bad low light results then I dont' think I would even upgrade as its still amazing camera and I looked after it very well so its like brand new. However, seeing the results of D750 in low light it just blew me away what it can do. My D90 is usable till iso 800 and anything above that is just super noisy. Its exciting time for me and I will sure report here later once I get some milage out of the new camera.
I'm also thinking of doing a workshop in London so if someone knows a good one then please feel free to suggest as I am going to strive for better skill so I get the most out of this purchase.

The reason why I picked up photography in the first place is to improve my sense of staging and composition as its related to my job (im in the film industry - VFX) so if I improve there I will also benefit at work so its connected.

 

[monokakata]

Cool, good to know. Yeah i was asking about how loud it is as some reviews mentioned that D750 is quite loud compared to D810 which made me wonder if its the same as D90 loudness or worse
But I look forward to test it when I get back from india.
Hope my decision to wait based on a suggestion will be worth it otherwise I'll be disappointed that I didn't buy it before the trip.
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I've heard about that lens before and it does seem like a good suggestion but for now I wanted to buy one that is pretty much the best as it will last me a lifetime.

I'm also thinking of doing a workshop in London so if someone knows a good one then please feel free to suggest as I am going to strive for better skill so I get the most out of this purchase.

The reason why I picked up photography in the first place is to improve my sense of staging and composition as its related to my job (im in the film industry - VFX) so if I improve there I will also benefit at work so its connected.

I have not for one second regretted buying the 14-24 and the 70-200. They are fantastic lenses, and the 24-70 is obviously their equal in quality.

I've never handled a D90 -- does it have Live View? If it doesn't, then you're in for a treat. Considering that you're involved in staging and composition, you may find yourself using Live View a lot. I shoot in Live View probably 90% of the time, because I like to compose my shots in that mode, on a tripod. The D810's LV is excellent, and I'd bet that the 750's is too.

 

[jerwin]

yes, the d90 has liveview. It does not have a 100 percent viewfinder, and the D90's viewfinder is smaller, by quite a margin than the D750's. On the other hand if you really like liveview, the screen does tit and swivel-- within a certain range. Good for capturing shots with the camera held above one's head, perhaps.

 

[Freida]

I have not for one second regretted buying the 14-24 and the 70-200. They are fantastic lenses, and the 24-70 is obviously their equal in quality.

I've never handled a D90 -- does it have Live View? If it doesn't, then you're in for a treat. Considering that you're involved in staging and composition, you may find yourself using Live View a lot. I shoot in Live View probably 90% of the time, because I like to compose my shots in that mode, on a tripod. The D810's LV is excellent, and I'd bet that the 750's is too.

To be honest I never really liked the liveview feature. I've used it only on video and that wasn't much as the video is crap on D90. For some reason I find the liveview unpractical for pics as looking from the finder seems to be more practical.
However, the tilting screen might become handy for those difficult shots as mentioned.

On a curious note, what do people like about the live view?

 

[kenoh]

To be honest I never really liked the liveview feature. I've used it only on video and that wasn't much as the video is crap on D90. For some reason I find the liveview unpractical for pics as looking from the finder seems to be more practical.
However, the tilting screen might become handy for those difficult shots as mentioned.

On a curious note, what do people like about the live view?

For me Live View is useful for critical focus manually using live view and focus peaking.

 

[jerwin]

I don't believe that Nikon has focus peaking on any of its dslrs. I could be wrong.

 

[Apple fanboy]

To be honest I never really liked the liveview feature. I've used it only on video and that wasn't much as the video is crap on D90. For some reason I find the liveview unpractical for pics as looking from the finder seems to be more practical.
However, the tilting screen might become handy for those difficult shots as mentioned.

On a curious note, what do people like about the live view?

I use the LV screen for macro work. The tilting option is great. I use it much more than I do on my D7100. In sunshine you can adjust the screen to reduce glare.

 

[mofunk]

Can I ask you please, how noisy it is compared to D90? I read reviews that D810 is super quiet compared to D750 but I just wanna know if its the same noise level as D90 or if its worse
Thanks

lol @ fanboy the speed reader

I was messing around with the D810 in the store today and the D810 is a lot quieter than the D750. I rarely shoot in quiet mode because it makes this clack'ah sound. Its quieter than the D90 but not the D810.

 

[kenoh]

I don't believe that Nikon has focus peaking on any of its dslrs. I could be wrong.

Sorry i meant live view on Sony.

 

[jerwin]

Nikon's Quiet Mode doesn't flip the mirror until you release the shutter button.

 

[Freida]

lol @ fanboy the speed reader

I was messing around with the D810 in the store today and the D810 is a lot quieter than the D750. I rarely shoot in quiet mode because it makes this clack'ah sound. Its quieter than the D90 but not the D810.

Oh, that is nice to hear. I actually don't mind the sound of D90 so if D750 is even quieter then I will be happy puppy.

 

[hiddenmarkov]

On a curious note, what do people like about the live view?

its a godsend for when filters are stacked. landscape with liveview I will go on a limb and say is must have as the ND filters get darker, or your stack them. ND filters are multiplicative not additive, stacking them has the eyepiece view fade to black real fast as you get to x16, x32, etc effective.

Eyepiece becomes useless as you can't see much. Live view will look through the filters and you see the subject quite readily.

Also video has improved from the D90. Its a selling point of the D750 in fact. I love its video ability. And I did shoot the d90 many moons ago.

Also a must have on video shoots. Do not run auto-mic. Go manual and adjust as needed. I find it auto likes to settle around 15. This causes audio blow out fast in my experience. event depending I am around 9-12. And am on this often some events if the music mixer has some music tracks louder than others. The audio meter will be in live view displays.

 

[Freida]

its a godsend for when filters are stacked. landscape with liveview I will go on a limb and say is must have as the ND filters get darker, or your stack them. ND filters are multiplicative not additive, stacking them has the eyepiece view fade to black real fast as you get to x16, x32, etc effective.

Eyepiece becomes useless as you can't see much. Live view will look through the filters and you see the subject quite readily.

Also video has improved from the D90. Its a selling point of the D750 in fact. I love its video ability. And I did shoot the d90 many moons ago.

Also a must have on video shoots. Do not run auto-mic. Go manual and adjust as needed. I find it auto likes to settle around 15. This causes audio blow out fast in my experience. event depending I am around 9-12. And am on this often some events if the music mixer has some music tracks louder than others. The audio meter will be in live view displays.

Yeah, it does look like D750 is good with video although there was a test that iPhone 6S made better quality when shot in 4K and scaled to 1080p
I guess that might be dependant on the lens you use, no?
I look forward to test that feature.

 

[hiddenmarkov]

Yeah, it does look like D750 is good with video although there was a test that iPhone 6S made better quality when shot in 4K and scaled to 1080p
I guess that might be dependant on the lens you use, no?
I look forward to test that feature.

Know of that article and those like it...lol. There can be differences. iPhone/pad video has come a long way but....its not there in some ways.


Here is what you get with DSLR video:

Iso control. iPhone can shoot up to what I call snowing in the middle of July indoors levels real fast. ISO with dlsr you can control with aperture and shutter. Nikon's thing is iso noise reducing in body as well. Auto mode gives conservative settings. It will get that frame (still or video). Sometimes at the cost of image quality.

Daylight shooting you also get better control. Mentioned ND filters, You'd use these daytime. Video has rules. Not set in stone but usually advisable to follow most of the time unless you are working an off the wall effect. Shutter = 2x FPS one of those rules. Violate these rules and stuff like jitter and such happens. ND filters can help you stay in these rules by cutting light.

Just personal preference here ofc. I want a constant FPS/shutter speed on the shooting as much as possible. If I want to play with motion effects (slow mo effect of 60 to 30 FPS) that imo better handled in the video editing part.

Lens selection as you mention. My I don't know what range I will have kit is the 24-70 2.8 and the 80-200 2.8 AF-D.
Long or near covered. I also get consistent aperture on this glass.

Or primes used. Video like stills...you can't always move to from your subject. I find 35, 85, and something low mid 100's a nice 3 prime combo. If you can't move (crowd, barricades, good vantage point)...an iPhone can't do that.

 

[mofunk]

Remember this camera shoot really great in low light. So if you are shooting video in low light, it will be just as good. With my D90, shooting video was hit and miss. If it was in low light , there had to be another source of light to help it. Although the D90 performed pretty well with 24-70mm shooting video.

I've only used live view on the D750 a few times. Once was when I needed to take a group shot of everyone with me included. I propped up my D750 and used my iPhone app as the trigger. That was really cool. I didn't have a Nikon remote with me plus I wasn't expecting to use it. But the phone app came in handy. Plus I had placed it on the counter so Live View was very helpful.

 

[Moakesy]

I find live view and the tilting screen useful for macro, or the occasional low down / high up shot. 98% of the time, I prefer the viewfinder....more out of habit than anything else.

I have tried shooting with live view, but just can't get on with it. It seems slower / more cumbersome to me. It's useful to have as an option for when needs dictate, but not a critical factor for the way I shoot.

Did you nip into Grays to have a look at the camera(s) over the weekend?

 

[Freida]

I find live view and the tilting screen useful for macro, or the occasional low down / high up shot. 98% of the time, I prefer the viewfinder....more out of habit than anything else.

I have tried shooting with live view, but just can't get on with it. It seems slower / more cumbersome to me. It's useful to have as an option for when needs dictate, but not a critical factor for the way I shoot.

Did you nip into Grays to have a look at the camera(s) over the weekend?

Yeah, I feel the same. For me its slower as the camera closes the view and then takes picture and then reopens. I know its a matter of 1-2 secs more but I just don't feel its useful for general purpose.
However, I do find it useful for video and I feel that it will be useful for those situations you have described.

I haven't managed to get into Grays over the weekend - was a bit lazy so I will do that after I'm back simply cause the rebate might change (hopefully).

I had a chance to hold a canon lens which is similar weight as thet 24-70 and i do agree that its one heavy monkey.
Those images better be amazing

 

[kenoh]

Yeah, I feel the same. For me its slower as the camera closes the view and then takes picture and then reopens. I know its a matter of 1-2 secs more but I just don't feel its useful for general purpose.
However, I do find it useful for video and I feel that it will be useful for those situations you have described.

I haven't managed to get into Grays over the weekend - was a bit lazy so I will do that after I'm back simply cause the rebate might change (hopefully).

I had a chance to hold a canon lens which is similar weight as thet 24-70 and i do agree that its one heavy monkey.
Those images better be amazing

They will be... and just thing of that upper arm muscle tone you will have...

 

[Freida]

Video has rules. Not set in stone but usually advisable to follow most of the time unless you are working an off the wall effect. Shutter = 2x FPS one of those rules. Violate these rules and stuff like jitter and such happens.

What do you mean by that? I was under the impression that there is no shutter speed as its open for the video so you only set A, ISO. Can you elaborate, please?

 

[Apple fanboy]

What do you mean by that? I was under the impression that there is no shutter speed as its open for the video so you only set A, ISO. Can you elaborate, please?

Best to set shutter speed and aperture manually.

 

[jerwin]

What do you mean by that? I was under the impression that there is no shutter speed as its open for the video so you only set A, ISO. Can you elaborate, please?

Imagine a 1080p24 video as a stream of pictures taken every 1/24 sec. The maximum shutter speed is limited to 1/24 sec. But the minimum can be 1/4000 s, if the lighting conditions warrant it. It might be advisable to research "shutter angle" though-- video works best when the shutter speed is a an integer divisor of the framerate (1/2400 s, 1/48 sec, and so on.)

At least the D750 has a power aperture, though

 

[Freida]

Imagine a 1080p24 video as a stream of pictures taken every 1/24 sec. The maximum shutter speed is limited to 1/24 sec. But the minimum can be 1/4000 s, if the lighting conditions warrant it. It might be advisable to research "shutter angle" though-- video works best when the shutter speed is a an integer divisor of the shutter speed (1/2400 s, 1/48 sec, and so on.)

At least the D750 has a power aperture, though

I will have to do research on this as until now i was under the impression the video works like this:
the shutter opens and stays open exposing the sensor that collects the data (video). Therefore shutter speed couldnt be adjusted as there is nothing to be adjusted as its open.
But it seems im totally wrong about this or we are talking about two different things. Not sure

 

[Freida]

Imagine a 1080p24 video as a stream of pictures taken every 1/24 sec. The maximum shutter speed is limited to 1/24 sec. But the minimum can be 1/4000 s, if the lighting conditions warrant it. It might be advisable to research "shutter angle" though-- video works best when the shutter speed is a an integer divisor of the shutter speed (1/2400 s, 1/48 sec, and so on.)

At least the D750 has a power aperture, though

Ok, studied and learnt. Thank you for pointing that out to me.
I thought digital was working differently and they just played with the fps to achieve those effects but its good to know now that I was wrong and analog methods still apply here.
New world to explore now

 

[JDDavis]

Ok, studied and learnt. Thank you for pointing that out to me.
I thought digital was working differently and they just played with the fps to achieve those effects but its good to know now that I was wrong and analog methods still apply here.
New world to explore now

The D750 can shoot wonderful video when it's set it up right and with the right lens. As stated above choose an appropriate shutter angle (shutter speed / FPS )...for almost everything I use 1/60 and 30FPS (because most of my video is indoors). This is a pretty standard shutter angle. Then I put it on auto ISO and adjust the aperture manually for whatever the scene requires. Auto ISO seems to work pretty well with video. Best to go with full manual focus on your lens or you will get focus motor noise in your video. This is where the tilt screen and live view are really helpful for me.