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AnonMac50

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Unlike your experience, I am now stuck at high Sierra pretty much forever since this is the last version of macOS to truly support 32-bit. Mojave is a stopgap and nothing more. 32-bit apps are breaking like crazy on Mojave, let alone Catalina. As for the bugs and such, yes, bugs, but not to an extent I want to smash the Mac. Since I also use iTunes 12.6.5.3, I cannot upgrade.

I don’t know what I can do when my current Mac fails. How far virtualisation could help me? Does parallel desktop run high Sierra well? Or at all? I have no idea. Sure, high Sierra runs slow on my Mac. Photos app is still buggy. Mails app takes forever to do anything a bit more serious. But Mojave completely ruins my experience to a point that the only thing my Mac is doing great is booting up macOS fast.

But the main takeaway is: OS upgrade is not really a thing anymore for me in 2019 and beyond. Software will always have security issues. Cellebrite will always find critical bugs that can be used to hack into your iOS device regardless of versions.

High Sierra itself isn’t the best for older apps. Use low Sierra or El Capitan. You’ll have a much better experience with those.

Parallels does run High Sierra, but it’s not great. You wouldn’t want to be using it to play games, for example.
 

Shirasaki

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High Sierra itself isn’t the best for older apps. Use low Sierra or El Capitan. You’ll have a much better experience with those.

Parallels does run High Sierra, but it’s not great. You wouldn’t want to be using it to play games, for example.
Well, last viable version cause Mojave is a disaster. Not the best, but last viable choice, and I love Universal Clipboard.
As soon as it runs, that’s what all matters. I don’t play game on Mac. I can see that Apple will stop everyone from running many applications from ARM based Mac, including any OS older than the OS came with ARM Mac. I will figure out the next step to do at that point.
 

aevan

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My 2016 nTB is still on last version of Sierra

I feel like if I ever get another Mac, then ill get a new version but I strive for stability, compatibility, and battery life..

A lot more upgrade hungry on iOS front, but I still stagger between upgrades for jailbreak compatibility reasons and even then usually new iOS comes with new hardware for me

Glad to see it evolve, I tried high Sierra and didnt like it, Mojave seemed good on external SSD but too afraid battery would be junk, and now its so many leaps not sure my measly 2.0ghz i5 could keep up

Well, actually, in my experience, newer macOS versions are more stable and have better performance by the time they get to x.2-x.3 within the major release. High Sierra was faster and more bug-free than Sierra for me and Mojave was just as good as High Sierra with a few new features. I'm sorry, I don't see any reason to avoid updates, especially a few months after a major release.

Either way, I've been waiting on Sidecar for so long, Catalina is a major update for me, so much that I'm actually running betas of iPadOS and macOS.
 

PastaPrimav

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I'm not at all, because every new change they make is terrible. They are crippling the user experience on macOS in favor of harassment disguised as security.

I wouldn't upgrade macOS at all if not for the fact that they make it utterly impossible to use old versions of macOS with new versions of iOS.
 
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vikingo

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My 2016 nTB is still on last version of Sierra

I feel like if I ever get another Mac, then ill get a new version but I strive for stability, compatibility, and battery life..

A lot more upgrade hungry on iOS front, but I still stagger between upgrades for jailbreak compatibility reasons and even then usually new iOS comes with new hardware for me

Glad to see it evolve, I tried high Sierra and didnt like it, Mojave seemed good on external SSD but too afraid battery would be junk, and now its so many leaps not sure my measly 2.0ghz i5 could keep up

I am one of those who always update everything to the latest version. This year for the first time install the macos beta. Big mistake on my part.

These betas are designed so that developers can test their apps in the version that is coming. And they have problems, many problems.

I have a Macbook Pro Retina 2015 and I was thinking about removing the beta and going back to Mojave but after reading this thread I think I'm going to install Sierra or something that came out near the year of my mac's manufacturing. If I think about it, the only thing I need from my operating system is that the latest version of Chrome or Firefox works correctly and of course, continue to receive security updates.

This last time my mac has been getting slower and I think the updates have a lot to do.
 

jagolden

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Not in a rush at all. Heck, just got used to Mojave.
Do not like the changed to Music/videos/and how they look to be managed.
Also have 32 bit Photoshop I occasionally use though am using Serif Affinity Photo/Designer/Publisher for most work.
I do still also use a 2010 MBP so the 32 bit thing is not really a big stopping point.
I think it’s an age thing for me mostly. When I was younger I’d be chomping at the bit for the new OS so I could play and learn. Now. I just want to turn on the computer and see it work.
Will wait a few months after release to see what sort of issues and solutions pop up before I install Catalina.
 

PastaPrimav

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In what way?
Like disrupting the user experience of every single app by asking for permission for every single action.
Like making every single website through Safari ask for permission to the Downloads folder!
Like making clicking on your autofill options the "wrong" thing to do, and instead making a user reach for Touch ID (which is apparently not an issue on Macs without Touch ID).
Like taking a big step forward with unlock via Apple Watch, and then 50 steps back by creating all new things the user must manually authenticate all the time.

It is a usability nightmare. Terrible for users, who don't share their Macs in open offices or leave them unlocked on tables at Starbucks while getting coffee. Terrible for developers who want to create an app and a user experience, and can't predict the next thing Apple is going to inject into the process for the user to "approve".

I do not care if I download an app that sends all my contacts to China. That's my problem. I don't need all of this utter garbage.
 

AeroZ

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I got a 2012 non-retina MBP and I’m running Sierra. I’ll probably try Catalina but I’m not that confident I’ll be using it.
I’ve tried High Sierra but a graphical glitch that happened when waking the computer threw me off. Even more Apple didn’t fix it in a year.
I also tried Mojave but it made booting a lot slower and the the fonts looked awful with non-retina screen (the tweaks and “fixes” didn’t fix it 100%).
 

vikingo

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Jul 23, 2019
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I'm back to Sierra since my last post and I'm more than happy. I really don't miss anything from Mojave or Catalina. The best, my mac now is faster than ever.
 

madmin

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I usually wait till the end of year holidays to change major version of macOS. By then the teething problems have mostly been sorted. Last year I was convinced it wouldn't be necessary for Mojave so I moved up much earlier, after a couple of bug fix releases. This year it's the opposite. I fear Catalina will be too disruptive and buggy and will probably wait until late spring 2020 before upgrading, at the earliest.
 

vikingo

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My new rule will be to update only when major browsers or my work apps don't make new releases for my actual MacOS. And i will update just to the next MacOS release, no the latest.
 

cardfan

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I’ll wait quite awhile before updating. Bugs are bad. Programs that no longer work are worse.
 

Isamilis

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Me too. I am still using High Sierra, updating from few years usage on El Capitan. Very good battery life, compatible softwares and speedy. Usually my reason to update is to make compatible with my phone's IOS version (now in 12.1.4). Everything is still very smooth and stable, I don't see any reason for updates.

My 2016 nTB is still on last version of Sierra

I feel like if I ever get another Mac, then ill get a new version but I strive for stability, compatibility, and battery life..

A lot more upgrade hungry on iOS front, but I still stagger between upgrades for jailbreak compatibility reasons and even then usually new iOS comes with new hardware for me

Glad to see it evolve, I tried high Sierra and didnt like it, Mojave seemed good on external SSD but too afraid battery would be junk, and now its so many leaps not sure my measly 2.0ghz i5 could keep up
 
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fisherking

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at this moment, this thread has 64 replies. let's say that 60 of them are from people saying they're staying with sierra, or high sierra. or whatever.

that's still 60 people. so, i can't understand why apple bothers to even offer a new OS, when there are at least 60 people who don't care... :rolleyes:
 

thadoggfather

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in addition to loving the battery life still on last Sierra with 2016 nTB, I have used old OS files to show me remaining battery estimate even after it was removed in Sierra early on, and it is helpful for energy consumption

I dunno if the latest os could handle this or not,

this, app compatibility and performance keep me staying
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at this moment, this thread has 64 replies. let's say that 60 of them are from people saying they're staying with sierra, or high sierra. or whatever.

that's still 60 people. so, i can't understand why apple bothers to even offer a new OS, when there are at least 60 people who don't care... :rolleyes:

its not a matter of getting Apple to listen and stop upgrading the os, don't be absurd. I just find myself uninterested in the upgrades which is weird for as tech oriented as I am

reliable performant and excellent battery life are key for me on this laptop. I also feel like the graphics are more sluggish on later os'es as well. I like the butter for main operation of the OS (minimizing windows, navigating between windows with hot corners, etc etc)

and I use dashboard!

got a lot more to lose than gain it seems like in my situation.
 
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fisherking

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in addition to loving the battery life still on last Sierra with 2016 nTB, I have used old OS files to show me remaining battery estimate even after it was removed in Sierra early on, and it is helpful for energy consumption

I dunno if the latest os could handle this or not,

this, app compatibility and performance keep me staying
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its not a matter of getting Apple to listen and stop upgrading the os, don't be absurd. I just find myself uninterested in the upgrades which is weird for as tech oriented as I am

reliable performant and excellent battery life are key for me on this laptop. I also feel like the graphics are more sluggish on later os'es as well. I like the butter for main operation of the OS (minimizing windows, navigating between windows with hot corners, etc etc)

and I use dashboard!

got a lot more to lose than gain it seems like in my situation.

it's still very-much a different experience for different people, based on their needs, apps, hardware, etc. i mean, mojave is a better experience on my macbook than sierra, (or high sierra).

so, yes, depends on your 'situation'. for some, catalina will be the new 'great' OS... once it arrives. for others, there's a world of previous-OSes.
 

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I'm not upgrade hungry, macOS is a mature and fairly polished OS. But I do enjoy it when new and improved features are added. I'm happy to upgrade providing it is as stable and polished as the version I'm upgrading from.

I've been using macOS for quite a long time now and I'm happy saying Mojave is the best version yet.
 
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