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I use my iPhone for 100% of both my personal computing and running my business. The only thing I’ve used my Mac computer for over the last year and a half is to backup my iCloud Drive documents folder. Everything else I use the iPhone.

I was thinking about getting an iPad Mini to get a little bit more screen real estate, but they didn’t release a new one. Now I’m thinking that there’s no reason to have two different devices, I would prefer to have a slightly bigger iPhone. I don’t generally keep my iPhone in my pocket, I carry it in my hand. But even a larger iPhone would fit into a back pocket in my jeans. And the extra screen real estate would be helpful.

Anyone else feel like this? Any chance Apple might make a bigger iPhone?
 
I use my iPhone for 100% of both my personal computing and running my business. The only thing I’ve used my Mac computer for over the last year and a half is to backup my iCloud Drive documents folder. Everything else I use the iPhone.

I was thinking about getting an iPad Mini to get a little bit more screen real estate, but they didn’t release a new one. Now I’m thinking that there’s no reason to have two different devices, I would prefer to have a slightly bigger iPhone. I don’t generally keep my iPhone in my pocket, I carry it in my hand. But even a larger iPhone would fit into a back pocket in my jeans. And the extra screen real estate would be helpful.

Anyone else feel like this? Any chance Apple might make a bigger iPhone?
We have to keep in mind that what we think is the perfect device isn’t what Apple thinks is perfect.. Apple has to take into account the market. It sounds to me like an iPad mini would be perfect for you. It doesn’t take a whole lot of extra effort or resources to manage two separate devices, I have an iPhone 13 and an iPad 9th generation and I love that Apple has made their devices integrate so seamlessly. Go to a store and play with an iPad min and see if you like it, I bet the extra screen real estate would serve your needs.. at least until Apple begins releasing larger iPhones. Even if Apple did begin releasing larger iPhones, I doubt it would be more than an inch of extra screen real estate.
 
It's coming. The limiting factor isn't demand for a large iPhone, but rather the tech.

An Apple Foldable? Is this going to go the same way as the Apple car.. now you see it now you don’t?
 
An Apple Foldable? Is this going to go the same way as the Apple car.. now you see it now you don’t?

Car was never going to happen. Apple doesn't even manufacture batteries or displays. Suddenly, they're going compete in manufacturing, shipping, and servicing a good where the battery is valued at 30-50% of the product?

Foldable is a proven tech. Like most smartphone tech, it's taken off in China and will be adopted globally soon. Screen time is only increasing every year, which means demand for larger and larger displays.
 
Car was never going to happen. Apple doesn't even manufacture batteries or displays. Suddenly, they're going compete in manufacturing, shipping, and servicing a good where the battery is valued at 30-50% of the product?

Foldable is a proven tech. Like most smartphone tech, it's taken off in China and will be adopted globally soon. Screen time is only increasing every year, which means demand for larger and larger displays.
Yeah, and I think people adopted foldable devices way too soon. If you study materials science, you will understand that any material that is bent back on itself a successive number of times begins to weaken the material itself - this is known as material fatigue. I guess the trick here is to delay material failure for as long as possible.
 
Foldable is a proven tech. Like most smartphone tech, it's taken off in China and will be adopted globally soon. Screen time is only increasing every year, which means demand for larger and larger displays.
Global adoption of a foldable phone will ultimately pass me by then…

I refuse and have refused from the beginning to buy an Apple Watch when Apple can still provide me with a notification LED on the iPhone itself. But they won't.

I'm still waiting for the fugly camera bump to make a disappearing act and become flush with the casing. I'm told that's not technologically possible and that may be so. But you can't tell me that Apple doesn't think that the bulging bump is a design featue. This isn't going anywhere soon.

Apple wants me to use an iPad instead of a real dedicated computer. No.

Hard pass on a foldable.
 
Yeah, and I think people adopted foldable devices way too soon. If you study materials science, you will understand that any material that is bent back on itself a successive number of times begins to weaken the material itself - this is known as material fatigue. I guess the trick here is to delay material failure for as long as possible.

The issues are largely cosmetic and have improved with each successive generation. If Apple can get consumers onboard with consumable electronics like Watch and AirPods with batteries that need to be replaced every 2-3 years, I think foldable iPhone will be a success. For those concerned about cosmetics, Apple can increase serviceability and offer cover glass replacements.
 
The issues are largely cosmetic and have improved with each successive generation. If Apple can get consumers onboard with consumable electronics like Watch and AirPods with batteries that need to be replaced every 2-3 years, I think foldable iPhone will be a success. For those concerned about cosmetics, Apple can increase serviceability and offer cover glass replacements.
The issues are largely cosmetic? I’m afraid I have to disagree with you. The screen is the most important part of a cellular phone, when that screen breaks then it affects the entire device. So it is not largely cosmetic.. it is mostly a functional thing.

Watch and AirPods are much less complex and don’t have expensive folding screens.

And how much do you think Apple is going to charge to replace the screen on a foldable phone? To quote my favorite YouTuber: “glass is glass, and glass breaks”. Glass is also unpredictable, and the problem is exacerbated when you try to fold it.

A question for you: Given Apple’s popularity and cash reserve, if folding phones are so great why don’t we already have folding iPhones?
 
The issues are largely cosmetic? I’m afraid I have to disagree with you. The screen is the most important part of a cellular phone, when that screen breaks then it affects the entire device. So it is not largely cosmetic.. it is mostly a functional thing.

Watch and AirPods are much less complex and don’t have expensive folding screens.

And how much do you think Apple is going to charge to replace the screen on a foldable phone? To quote my favorite YouTuber: “glass is glass, and glass breaks”. Glass is also unpredictable, and the problem is exacerbated when you try to fold it.

A question for you: Given Apple’s popularity and cash reserve, if folding phones are so great why don’t we already have folding iPhones?

Long term review of current gen foldables haven't indicated any display failures. Users have noticed creases to varying degrees, which is why I suggest refurbishment. This would be similar to how the cover glass on current smartphones displays can be removed and laminated again in about 15-20 minutes.

Current folding devices such as Mate X5 and Find N3 are 11-12mm thick unfolded. They weigh about 240-250g, which is comparable to iPhone 14 Pro Max. Once the materials allow the thickness down to 8-9mm, Apple will go for it. Imagine two iPhone 17 Slims together to form effectively one foldable with the same footprint as iPhone 14 Pro Max.
 
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Anyone else feel like this? Any chance Apple might make a bigger iPhone?
There are those rumors about Apple making an ever-so-slightly larger Pro Max in the next couple of years... but it sounds like you'd benefit from a big foldable phone at this point. 🤔
 
Yeah, and I think people adopted foldable devices way too soon. If you study materials science, you will understand that any material that is bent back on itself a successive number of times begins to weaken the material itself - this is known as material fatigue. I guess the trick here is to delay material failure for as long as possible.
I agree, I have 4 colleagues at work with a fold or flip variant and every one of them has had screen failure of some description on the foldable screen. I give foldable a wide berth, they just don't interest me one little bit!
 
I use my iPhone for 100% of both my personal computing and running my business. The only thing I’ve used my Mac computer for over the last year and a half is to backup my iCloud Drive documents folder. Everything else I use the iPhone.

I was thinking about getting an iPad Mini to get a little bit more screen real estate, but they didn’t release a new one. Now I’m thinking that there’s no reason to have two different devices, I would prefer to have a slightly bigger iPhone. I don’t generally keep my iPhone in my pocket, I carry it in my hand. But even a larger iPhone would fit into a back pocket in my jeans. And the extra screen real estate would be helpful.

Anyone else feel like this? Any chance Apple might make a bigger iPhone?
For your case Apple need to add calling capability in the iPad along with Apple watch integration in the iPad. But they won't.

If your work is not iOS specific then Android might help. Android tablets can make call and their watch connects with their tablets as well.
 
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Yeah, and I think people adopted foldable devices way too soon. If you study materials science, you will understand that any material that is bent back on itself a successive number of times begins to weaken the material itself - this is known as material fatigue. I guess the trick here is to delay material failure for as long as possible.
I've known a few people with foldables and recently who have ended up with the dreaded cracked line across the screen. It is inevitable as you say when a material is bent back on itself. It'll be a plastic that gets close but eventually will fail.

I wouldn't be the market for a folding phone these days. My iPhone is already plenty big enough and I have an iPad for bigger screen app tasks.
 
iPad and iPhone may have almost the same diagonal measurement when it comes to display, however, iPhones without home button have an aspect ratio of ~19.5:9 while iPads are ~4:3 while iPhone 5 and up to iPhone SE 2022 are ~16:9
 
But . . . Your Eyes, Man!!1!

I'm Down with Mobile when I'm out-and-about; but when I do, I decidedly pine for 4K/8K upon my return ;)
It’s no different on my eyes. The text I read is the same size, maybe even a little bigger, on my iPhone held reasonably close to my face versus my computer monitor further away. I am speaking this into my iPhone while I have a computer with a 27 inch monitor nearly 20 foot away, but I have no desire to use it.
 
For your case Apple need to add calling capability in the iPad along with Apple watch integration in the iPad. But they won't.

If your work is not iOS specific then Android might help. Android tablets can make call and their watch connects with their tablets as well.
The iPad mini is too large for me to take everywhere with me, I wouldn’t want to do that so I would still be taking my cell phone with me and either leaving the iPad in the car or at home. The purpose would be defeated.
 
Imagine two iPhone 17 Slims together to form effectively one foldable with the same footprint as iPhone 14 Pro Max.
No thanks. For me at least.

I work from home, have several computers and monitors around me and several phones. And an iPad. It's a hassle taking my hands off the keyboard and mouse to reach over and grab my phone when I can very well just do it on the computer. When I do depart the house, it's to drive people somewhere and return.

Apple would also be trying to sell a foldable to a person who used to carry around two 17" PowerBook G4s in one bag. I have pictures of having both those Macs out and working at Starbucks.

I am not a good use case for a foldable.

There is always excitement for some new piece of technology until people start actually thinking about how they're going to use it. I have no use for, no interest in and zero desire to purchase a foldable. I've got plenty of other stuff. The only reason I'd ever end up with one (as with some of the stuff I own) is if someone outright gave it to me for free. Otherwise, no.
 
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The only way I will accept a larger screen is if it comes in the form of a built-in projector. That could be pretty cool. Otherwise, give me the smallest phone possible with as much tech as you can fit.

When I want to do something on a larger screen, I use my MBP. When I am home, videos are consumed on our TV. I pretty much only use my iPad as a music stand for playing in my band. It's too much of an in-between size for anything else, but my MBP is already in use running Mainstage and I don't want to buy two of them when an iPad 4 still serves my need!
 
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I have always had the largest size model, but other than thinner bezels and a very very slightly larger increase in size, I can't really say I'd want bigger than that. These Pro Max's seem to are getting pretty big. Now, that's not to say that if they did push it a bit, I might end up satisfied, but I am no jonesing for a larger phone ever since the XS Max. Before that, I was wanting larger devices than even the Plus models.
 
I've known a few people with foldables and recently who have ended up with the dreaded cracked line across the screen. It is inevitable as you say when a material is bent back on itself. It'll be a plastic that gets close but eventually will fail.

I wouldn't be the market for a folding phone these days. My iPhone is already plenty big enough and I have an iPad for bigger screen app tasks.
Part of the problem is there are people who want something so badly that they’re willing to discard any information, including evidence/proof, that does not support their desires or agenda. It is difficult to reason with this type of person and I am open to any suggestions that would help me learn.
 
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No thanks. For me at least.

I work from home, have several computers and monitors around me and several phones. And an iPad. It's a hassle taking my hands off the keyboard and mouse to reach over and grab my phone when I can very well just do it on the computer. When I do depart the house, it's to drive people somewhere and return.

Apple would also be trying to sell a foldable to a person who used to carry around two 17" PowerBook G4s in one bag. I have pictures of having both those Macs out and working at Starbucks.

I am not a good use case for a foldable.

There is always excitement for some new piece of technology until people start actually thinking about how they're going to use it. I have no use for, no interest in and zero desire to purchase a foldable. I've got plenty of other stuff. The only reason I'd ever end up with one (as with some of the stuff I own) is if someone outright gave it to me for free. Otherwise, no.

The traditional bar form factor will probably remain for years to come. Apple would likely position the foldable iPhone to the generation that grew up holding tablets. Those consumers used an iPad from day one, so having an iPad and iPhone combined is a natural evolution. Using a traditional computer is "weird" for them if it's not touch enabled.

The way we see a 17-inch PowerBook today, the current generation sees the MacBook Air/Pro in the same vein.
 
Nope. Well, yes I'm sure *some* people would. But I'm more than happy with my non-Max. It just becomes a burden to me. When I got the 15 Pro it was already about the max size I would want to have in a jeans pocket, or other pocket without the risk of it falling out, and could still fit on my gravel bike's handlebars along with lights and a Garmin and the other stuff. I want a nice big phone while using it, but it's mostly going to be in my pocket 97% of my life. If I'm doing proper work/leisure I'm usually sat in front of a full size computer or TV when I might use my phone anyway. So my phone is for "on the go" and when I'm on the go, it needs to be portable.

My ipad gets little use because it's not portable enough due to its size, but it's overshadowed by a proper computer or TV most of the time at home. I wish I'd bought a smaller one than 12.9" pro with hindsight; maybe a mini even. Then I'd use it more like a small pad for scribbling notes on and be more likely to have it with me.
 
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