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The traditional bar form factor will probably remain for years to come. Apple would likely position the foldable iPhone to the generation that grew up holding tablets. Those consumers used an iPad from day one, so having an iPad and iPhone combined is a natural evolution. Using a traditional computer is "weird" for them if it's not touch enabled.

The way we see a 17-inch PowerBook today, the current generation sees the MacBook Air/Pro in the same vein.
Ach! I screwed up with my kids then! ;)

My son got an iBook G3 when he was 5 (2008) and my daughter got a TiBook G4 when she was around 6 (2014). So both have grown up using laptops and desktop computers. My son has had a series of PCs and my daughter has killed two laptops. Her school uses laptops.

They do use phones, but laptops are their primary devices.

So, odd kids out in their generation…sigh!
 
Other than only a few days to port a landline into a cell number, I've just about never owned an iPhone. I use Cellular iPad mini 6 with a VOIP app for telephony needs and buds for audio. It was cellular iPad mini 2 for about 6-8 years before that. It works great as a phone alternative... just like a phone works great as a camera, a map, a compass, a flashlight, etc.

Telephony is just an app. Try a few VOIP apps until you find one you like and then get yourself an iPad and install it there. You can even port your phone number to keep the existing number. 5G is 5G (but much, MUCH less expensive on an iPad).

And if you prefer, a computer with VOIP app can be a "phone" too in the very same way. I've made many a call and tend to text more on my MB or desktop than I do on my "phone."

The magic is in seeing "telephone" as an app instead of a little slab of metal... just like a flashlight is not necessarily a big cylinder of metal with a lightbulb on the end. Once you can think of it as an "app" instead of a device with a specific form factor, then anything that can run the app can be a "phone"... like my iPad, my MB or even my Mac Studio.
 
I have a 15 Pro and that's as large as I want to go - anything more is too bulky.

And despite its features, it doesn't and won't do the job of a real computer for me.
 
It’s no different on my eyes. The text I read is the same size, maybe even a little bigger, on my iPhone held reasonably close to my face versus my computer monitor further away. I am speaking this into my iPhone while I have a computer with a 27 inch monitor nearly 20 foot away, but I have no desire to use it.

Ah, well . . . many would surely kill for such quality of vision (or--if may venture into such a morbid Space--be accidentally killed for staring so closely/intently at their phone).

My text-viewing on Desktop is +10x the dpi of my phone, and ~14x the viewing-area; part of why I am so shocked about your perception 🤷‍♂️

But, if it works for you....
 
Neither foldable nor larger iPhones are for everyone, but there’s a market for those and Apple will go there, sooner or later.
Personally, I’ll consider a foldable
 
Ah, well . . . many would surely kill for such quality of vision (or--if may venture into such a morbid Space--be accidentally killed for staring so closely/intently at their phone).

My text-viewing on Desktop is +10x the dpi of my phone, and ~14x the viewing-area; part of why I am so shocked about your perception 🤷‍♂️

But, if it works for you....
I really don’t know what you’re talking about. The text on my phone is nearly the same size as the text on my computer monitor. But since my phone is closer to my face than my computer monitor, the text is actually larger in size to my eye. The resolution on my phone is also higher, so it’s clearer. There’s absolutely no extra strain on my eyes using my phone.
 
I really don’t know what you’re talking about. The text on my phone is nearly the same size as the text on my computer monitor. But since my phone is closer to my face than my computer monitor, the text is actually larger in size to my eye. The resolution on my phone is also higher, so it’s clearer. There’s absolutely no extra strain on my eyes using my phone.
I can comfortably have 80 lines of text on my desktop screen in landscape orientation. I don't see how one could have that on a phone. It's about screen real-estate and how much information you can view at once. Think of Excel sheets, PDFs, any kind of longer document like Wikipedia pages, even this forum or MacRumors articles. Or any kind of nontrivial application with many controls, like image/audio/video editing, managing collections of hundreds of files, and so on. A phone screen is cramped and limiting, even at phablet sizes.
 
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Me! I have a 15PM and I would certainly buy bigger! No, not iPad mini bigger. I have one of those. There is space in between. Not to mention a different aspect ratio.

Unfortunately, if the replies in this forum are any indicator, a noticeable size increase isn't coming. :(
 
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I can comfortably have 80 lines of text on my desktop screen in landscape orientation. I don't see how one could have that on a phone. It's about screen real-estate and how much information you can view at once.
That is absolutely not what the discussion is about. The discussion that I was having was about eye strain while reading text. That has nothing to do with screen real estate. I don’t do all of those other things that you mentioned where you need a lot of screen real estate, so a smaller iPhone screen is fine. The text on my screen is the same size and higher resolution than a computer monitor so there is absolutely no eye strain whatsoever.

I don’t need 80 lines of text on a screen at the same time, I could simply scroll as I need to. And with Pro Motion even scrolling is crystal clear.
 
I use my iPhone for 100% of both my personal computing and running my business. The only thing I’ve used my Mac computer for over the last year and a half is to backup my iCloud Drive documents folder. Everything else I use the iPhone.

I was thinking about getting an iPad Mini to get a little bit more screen real estate, but they didn’t release a new one. Now I’m thinking that there’s no reason to have two different devices, I would prefer to have a slightly bigger iPhone. I don’t generally keep my iPhone in my pocket, I carry it in my hand. But even a larger iPhone would fit into a back pocket in my jeans. And the extra screen real estate would be helpful.

Anyone else feel like this? Any chance Apple might make a bigger iPhone?
I usually buy the best large iPhone each year, and personally I do not want the Pro Max to be any larger. Like others said, your needs (and mine) suggest an iPad Mini. But Apple needs to make a pro-level iPad Mini. Instead Apple has largely been ignoring the iPad Mini.
 
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Ah, well . . . many would surely kill for such quality of vision (or--if may venture into such a morbid Space--be accidentally killed for staring so closely/intently at their phone).

My text-viewing on Desktop is +10x the dpi of my phone, and ~14x the viewing-area; part of why I am so shocked about your perception 🤷‍♂️

But, if it works for you....
Sorry but you are inaccurately describing your devices.
-- Displays are in pixels per inch (ppi) not in dots per inch (dpi) which describes hard copy.
-- Desktop displays have about half the ppi of an iPhone, not "+10x" as well as not dpi. My guess is that you mean to say that your desktop display has more total pixels.
 
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I really don’t know what you’re talking about. The text on my phone is nearly the same size as the text on my computer monitor. But since my phone is closer to my face than my computer monitor, the text is actually larger in size to my eye. The resolution on my phone is also higher, so it’s clearer. There’s absolutely no extra strain on my eyes using my phone.
I would disagree with your last sentence: "There’s absolutely no extra strain on my eyes using my phone."

Because "strain on my eyes" is actually strain on my eyes/brain since that is how vision works. And other than very short text snippets, reading longer chunks of text on a small device like a phone does strain one's eyes/brain more than reading the same text on a large display. Also reading longer chunks of text is much, much faster on a large display.
 
I would disagree with your last sentence: "There’s absolutely no extra strain on my eyes using my phone."

Because "strain on my eyes" is actually strain on my eyes/brain since that is how vision works. And other than very short text snippets, reading longer chunks of text on a small device like a phone does strain one's eyes/brain more than reading the same text on a large display. Also reading longer chunks of text is much, much faster on a large display.
You’re entitled to disagree, but you’re wrong. I read your entire post in on my iPhone without having to scroll. This is no worse than if I read it on a giant computer monitor. Even if I had to scroll a little bit to read the rest of your post, that would not create any strain on my eye nor my brain.
 
No because we'll run into the same issue the iPad has right now where the software doesn't take advantage of the hardware. iOS barely does anything with the pro max screen sizes.
 
I had a friend who had a cellular iPad mini and used it as his phone. The phone number was complicated because he actually had to use Google Voice because Apple only lets you answer calls on your iPad if you also have an iPhone, but he didn't want to carry an iPhone and iPad.
But he loved it. Airpods were your only choice which was another downside but if you're not always on the phone, it's super convenient.
 
I’m happy with my 14 Pro’s size when I’m using it as a handheld device, though I’d actually prefer to go back down to a iPhone mini again in this regard.

But, I’ve also been trying to use my iPhone as my only computer for the last month or so.

My personal and professional computer needs are all easily done with just my iPhone, even more so with my Jerry-rigged together Bluetooth keyboard thing I made for it. Pair it with my mouse and I have the perfect little computer (edit: the mouse is mostly used for spreadsheets). Though, when I use it like this, the 14 Pro just feels a bit too small sometimes.

So between getting a mini for my handheld usage, and a pro max for the keyboard, I think the 14 Pro’s size is the best middle ground.

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The issues are largely cosmetic and have improved with each successive generation. If Apple can get consumers onboard with consumable electronics like Watch and AirPods with batteries that need to be replaced every 2-3 years, I think foldable iPhone will be a success. For those concerned about cosmetics, Apple can increase serviceability and offer cover glass replacements.
foldable phones cost in excess of 2 grand which sounds insane to me... and yes I have a Vision Pro but that's an exciting new purchase and it doesn't leave my house and risk damage. a foldable phone sounds like something just asking to be dropped
 
I am not judging you in any way, but don’t you think it will weight more (and thus gonna be harder to hold in one hand)?

I am vice versa, I want small iPhone that fits in pocket. Back in the days my old iPhone 5 was the most ergonomic camera I have ever used as it was light, had square edges and was much easier for making close up/macro shots
 
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I am not judging you in any way, but don’t you think it will weight more (and thus gonna be harder to hold in one hand)?

I am vice versa, I want small iPhone that fits in pocket. Back in the days my old iPhone 5 was the most ergonomic camera I have ever used as it was light, had square edges and was much easier for making close up/macro shots

Current foldables like Huawei Mate X5 and Oppo Find N3 are already the same weight as iPhone 14 Pro Max. The remaining roadblock is folded thickness.
 
the iphone 16 max will be 6.9 inches compared to the 6.7 inches of the 15 max

that’s as much as you’re getting for now
 
My guess is that you mean to say that your desktop display has more total pixels.

I may not be well-versed in p/dpi, but there is no way--on this Earth--that I might compare what I 'see' on my phone as comprehensive than that which I may observe on 2/3 4K screens on the Desktop.

I am entirely intimate with both, and there is absolutely no comparison.
 
No, my 15 Plus I realize is too big for my liking so I'll be downsizing with my next phone.
 
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