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150 yr old speaker tech not speakers.
It’s amazing to me that I have to explain this to you, but here goes. Speakers that were made 150 years ago were simple electrical coils vibrating a diaphragm. That same principle may apply today, but speakers also include numerous other additions like Bluetooth so you can stream sounds directly to your ear. Speakers 150 years ago didn’t have Bluetooth. I don’t want to go back to buy speakers from 150 years ago that don’t have Bluetooth. Just like I don’t want to spend $400 on a set of Apple AirPods Max headphones that were produced 4 years ago, especially when Apple will (hopefully) upgrade their headphones soon to sport new bluetooth compatibility, the H2 chip, lossless compatibility, lighter weight, an improved case, etc. So when I and other people state we don’t want to spend $400 on 4 year old tech, we aren’t just referring to a coil vibrating a diaphragm, we are talking about the entire speaker system, and we are anticipating new product improvements coming. I hope that helps you, and if not, I can’t waste my time on you any further.
 
It’s amazing to me that I have to explain this to you, but here goes. Speakers that were made 150 years ago were simple electrical coils vibrating a diaphragm. That same principle may apply today, but speakers also include numerous other additions like Bluetooth so you can stream sounds directly to your ear. Speakers 150 years ago didn’t have Bluetooth. I don’t want to go back to buy speakers from 150 years ago that don’t have Bluetooth. Just like I don’t want to spend $400 on a set of Apple AirPods Max headphones that were produced 4 years ago, especially when Apple will (hopefully) upgrade their headphones soon to sport new bluetooth compatibility, the H2 chip, lossless compatibility, lighter weight, an improved case, etc. So when I and other people state we don’t want to spend $400 on 4 year old tech, we aren’t just referring to a coil vibrating a diaphragm, we are talking about the entire speaker system, and we are anticipating new product improvements coming. I hope that helps you, and if not, I can’t waste my time on you any further.

Another way of wording it is that the power curve for headphones/technology has obviously gone up in the past 4 years (as it always has and always will). So while these headphones are still very good (I love them) they aren’t as high on the power curve as when they released. I think this price is roughly the equivalent value on the power curve as when they were released (probably a bit fairer value, though still overpriced…IMO they are still about $100 from being a good value but I doubt we see that unless there’s a crazy lightning sale).
 
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Another way of wording it is that the power curve for headphones/technology has obviously gone up in the past 4 years (as it always has and always will). So while these headphones are still very good (I love them) they aren’t as high on the power curve as when they released. I think this price is roughly the equivalent value on the power curve as when they were released (probably a bit better value).
Yup, it’s not that hard of a concept.

But whereas you say this price is “a bit better value,” others above disagree and think they are still overpriced. Get a discounted older version, or wait for a newer version that will likely be more expensive than the retail value of the current version?
 
Right I guess that’s a debatable topic I’m not an expert per se on the topic on everything released since December 2024 I know Sony released the slightly upgraded XM5 headphones…a few others released similarly or higher priced headphones that hadn’t previously done so (In the past two years, the Mark Levinson No.5909, Focal Bathys and Bowers & Wilkins Px8 released with even higher price tags but also getting great reviews.)

I say they’re slightly better value because I don’t think THAT many better/better value headphones have come out in the past 4 years to push these $150 down the power curve…but that’s also why I was sure to say a bit better value. I still think they should be down to $349 at this point, and flash sale of $299 would be a genuinely nice deal.
 
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earlier today there was this deal (maybe price glitch)? $278 for the blue pair with applecare included. I was able to order a pair lol


I managed to snag this to and it’s already shipped 😍
Hi if you don’t mind me asking how did you find out about this deal, I feel like I’m always the last to find out 😭
 
Hi if you don’t mind me asking how did you find out about this deal, I feel like I’m always the last to find out 😭
right place right time i guess haha. i just happened to check slickdeals and saw the post. they do have an app you can download and set up alerts for whatever product you might be waiting on a deal for
 
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I don’t understand, were they charged? If you were using the 3.5mm jack on the iPod it would work. I have owned these and the cable for 3-4 years, there is nothing special about the 3.5mm connection, it works with any audio source that follows the TRS standard.

edit: you may have had the volume all the way down, there is independent control of volume on the headphones and the source when using the cable. Hopefully you didn’t lose out on the functionality for years due to that…
Please don’t insult my intelligence.
 
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right place right time i guess haha. i just happened to check slickdeals and saw the post. they do have an app you can download and set up alerts for whatever product you might be waiting on a deal for
True true, haha, will definitely check it out, appreciate it!
 
Please don’t insult my intelligence.
Got it, so you didn’t know about it. Sorry if you are embarrassed, but it’s better than spreading misinformation which you were doing, albeit I imagine probably unintentionally. Everybody screws up sometimes, it’s not a big deal and their documentation about the behavior isn’t really obvious either, i was surprised the first time I used them.

The AirPods Max lightning->3.5mm audio cable does the analog to digital conversion and the TRS end will take any analog source, including iPods. It also works just fine with 1/4“ jacks via normal converters, I’ve used it for both applications.

Just make sure you turn up the volume on the headphones as well as the source, but be careful of levels so you don’t blow your head off if it’s maxed out. The little ‘tick’ sound is important to listen for so you know if you’re at the top of the range.
 
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