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AMD Confirms RX 480 At $199 USD, Other APU & Polaris Announcements

So, Huang wants to spoil AMD's thunder by speaking even before?!
Doesn't surprise me at all.
The tech world (and not just) is becoming (has been) a seriously messed up place.
Whatever...
 
ManuelGomes said:
AMD on the 30th, NVidia got to talk a day earlier.
Something Volta announcement?
Just prior to Vega?
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Don't Expect Volta consumer GPUs this year. If anything Nvidia can announce is GP100 based consumer GPU, as next Titan.
 
Nope. Graphics cards based on Volta won't be here anytime soon.
Compute cads might get soft launched however. Or not.
And now Softbank has a chunk of NVidia, more ca$h in.
 
ManuelGomes said:
Nope. Graphics cards based on Volta won't be here anytime soon.
Compute cads might get soft launched however. Or not.
And now Softbank has a chunk of NVidia, more ca$h in.
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Well, if it's a first preview of Volta graphics, it would not be much different from what AMD was doing with Vega.
 
ManuelGomes said:
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And now Softbank has a chunk of NVidia, more ca$h in.
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Not....

"... From NVIDIA's perspective, having the support and input of SoftBank will be valuable, even though the company didn't directly receive any of its investment dollars. ..."
https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/05/24/softbank-reportedly-amasses-4-billion-stake-in-nvi.aspx

The stock is worth incrementally more so Nvidia could use that to fund loans and/or buy something, but it does nothing in particular to the cash position.

Softbank owning ARM at this point and also taking larger stakes in Nvidia is a slippery slope in term of antitrust (in some locales) and among the other ARM licenses. ARM works because they don't compete with the folks they license to. Unwind that the larger players with deeper pocket may bolt (*cough* Apple *cough*).

This is far more Softbank trying to tap the stock price increases that Nvidia is seeing to probably offset some of the other risker bets they are making. If most of the other momentum players drop out, Softbank probably would too. ( the tech linkage is likely very low.)
 
cube said:
Are the graphics Volta or Pascal?
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Since usually the only difference between a Tesla and a Quadro is that (almost all) Teslas lack graphics outputs, then it's a small step to put a three DP outputs on one of the Tesla cards.

The pictures of the DGX station show the DP outputs in the area of the Tesla cards, and there doesn't seem to be any other cards in there (any Pascal card that could support three 4K DP monitors would not be small).
 
The wait continues for Vega. Frontier edition is launching end of June, rx Vega not until probably august. Delays are likely due to supply constraints with HBM but there is the nagging worry that rx Vega may have performance problems in gaming.
 
I wish AMD would actually do something impressive to compete with nVidia. So far, they are making us pay $500 for a high-end graphics card for oh what, a year plus now?
 
fendersrule said:
I wish AMD would actually do something impressive to compete with nVidia. So far, they are making us pay $500 for a high-end graphics card for oh what, a year plus now?
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Yes, nvidia has been firing on all cylinders for the last couple generations while amd tries to play catch up both in terms of software and hardware.

To be a success Vega has to be a compute monster especially when it comes to machine learning and keep up in games with the 1080 ti. That's a pretty tall order.
 
Agreed. That's why I root for both as the consumer. First step to is realize AMD lacks the punch and needs to do something. Their best card is almost a budget card nowadays.

We've not seen any drop in prices for 12 friggin' months. It's still $550-600 for a 1080.

I'm not even giving AMD a tall order to best the 1080Ti. Just having something to compete with the 1070 and 1080 founders would benefit us for substantial price decrease.
 
fendersrule said:
Agreed. That's why I root for both as the consumer. First step to is realize AMD lacks the punch and needs to do something. Their best card is almost a budget card nowadays.

We've not seen any drop in prices for 12 friggin' months. It's still $550-600 for a 1080.

I'm not even giving AMD a tall order to best the 1080Ti. Just having something to compete with the 1070 and 1080 founders would benefit us for substantial price decrease.
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I only say it needs to compete with the 1080 Ti because vega is likely more expensive to manufacture since its a larger die and uses more exotic memory.
 
Stacc said:
The wait continues for Vega. Frontier edition is launching end of June, rx Vega not until probably august. Delays are likely due to supply constraints with HBM but there is the nagging worry that rx Vega may have performance problems in gaming.
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The other cards are launching one month after Vega. Whether there will be enogh of them is another thing.

"Performance problems" is FUD. What you have is some games programmed using proprietary tools that are only optimized for NVIDIA.
 
cube said:
"Performance problems" is FUD. What you have is some games programmed using proprietary tools that are only optimized for NVIDIA.
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What do you call that demo they did last night? 2 Vega cards struggled in Prey (an AMD sponsored game) whereas a single 1080 Ti can handle it easily.
 
Stacc said:
What do you call that demo they did last night? 2 Vega cards struggled in Prey (an AMD sponsored game) whereas a single 1080 Ti can handle it easily.
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Why do you think it struggled?

Tearing? Screen tearing appears not only when refresh rate of the display is higher than the framerate generated by GPUs, but also when it is lower than the framerate generated by the GPUs.


Nobody has any information about the framerate of those GPUs.

lFKALdd_d.jpg

30 Hz stream sampling 4 frames(at least) in single refresh. Which means 120 FPS lock, without Vsync.

AMD demoed there not overall performance, but the fact that ThreadRipper does not bottleneck any of the GPUs, with its 64 PCIe lanes.
 
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Even if there are 4 pieces of image total, that's 3 frame buffer updates during a refresh cycle.
But it's unclear whether the image here represents 1/30 s or less. It could be 1/60.
 
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