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AidenShaw

macrumors P6
Feb 8, 2003
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Man, are we starting again the naming war?
Now it's i9 and it couldn't be otherwise but Ryzen 9...
Oh please. If your naming convention is "i<odd integer>", and you already have i3, i5 and i7 - what is the logical name choice for a new high end tier?

Actually, one should accuse AMD of being the copycat for using 3/5/7 in their new CPUs.
 

ManuelGomes

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Dec 4, 2014
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Aveiro, Portugal
As usual you need to say something.
If you go back I said that exactly some time ago. I believe at the time you also had something (different) to say about that.
My point was always that AMD is following Intel's footsteps here.
But I don't care to go on with this with you.
 

koyoot

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Jun 5, 2012
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I have confirmed something through my channels of information. There is no possibility for Ryzen 9 CPUs, if thats what they will be called, to come in 10 and 14 core versions. Only 12 and 16 core versions are possible.
 

cube

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May 10, 2004
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I have confirmed something through my channels of information. There is no possibility for Ryzen 9 CPUs, if thats what they will be called, to come in 10 and 14 core versions. Only 12 and 16 core versions are possible.
Which is expected, as they have 4 CCX.
 

Zarniwoop

macrumors 65816
Aug 12, 2009
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West coast, Finland
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/5116196649

Dem it looks very, very good.

Ryzen 9 1998X: 155W TDP, 16C/32T, 3.5-3.8 GHz.
Ryzen 9 1998: 155W TDP, 16C/32T, 3.2-3.6 GHz.
Ryzen 9 1997X: 155W TDP, 14C/28T, 3.5-3.9 GHz.
Ryzen 9 1977: 140W TDP, 14C/28T, 3.2-3.7 GHz.
Ryzen 9 1976X: 140W TDP, 12C/24T, 3.6-4.0 GHz.
Ryzen 9 1956: 125W TDP, 12C/24T, 3.0-3.7 GHz.
Ryzen 9 1955X: 125W TDP, 10C/20T, 3.6-3.9 GHz.
Ryzen 9 1955: 125W TDP, 10C/20T, 3.1-3.7 GHz.

My sources are suggesting extremely competitive pricing.

Top end model - 1499$. At least this is first rumor that is floating around in retial lines...
If it is correct AMD pretty much has a killer line in CPUs.

Also there might be Ryzen 7 1900X, 8C/16T CPU with higher core clocks, than 1800X. And the suggested price is between 599 and 649$.

"The Ryzen 9 lineup, code named Threadripper, will be compatible with a modified version of the company’s SP3 socket, code named SP3r2, which was originally designed for AMD’s 32 core Naples server parts."

Socket SP3 for Naples, support for two or more nodes, 8 memory channels, 4094 pins, up to 128 PCIe lines
Socket SP3r2 for ThreadRipper, support for one node, four memory channels, 4094 pins, 44 PCIe lanes

More alternative facts here: http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-9-lineup-threadripper/
[doublepost=1494931313][/doublepost]Vega + Threadripper system would be quite a machine. If only there were a proper operating system with apps supporting HSAIL, openCL 2.x...
[doublepost=1494932799][/doublepost]"AMD is holding a major event later today in which all of the company’s senior executives will take to the stage to talk about the company’s long-term vision and its future products. Front and center today will be Vega, Zen & Naples."

http://wccftech.com/amd-vega-debuting-today-teased-by-raja-koduri-chris-hook/
 

deconstruct60

macrumors G5
Mar 10, 2009
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Ryzen, Epyc, Threadripper. Is AMD trying to market to 10 year olds?

Given the competition rolled out something you'd see a strip club marketing .... Platinum , Gold, Sliver .... this probably won't hurt them much. Neither one of them are winning prizes here. Well see if Intel does something sensible with the single socket workstation product name.

It is more than a little "gamer" centric though.. The product name introduction videos .... it is game like entertainment.

Epyc is a bit of inside joke at Intel ( EPIC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explicitly_parallel_instruction_computing ) , but yeah if trying to be taken seriously in a data center...

That said. There are suppose to be BGA versions of Epyc. I suspect Apple would bite on that (even if got groans from some in the Mac Pro crowd.). Even Threadripper if made to work with Thunderbolt.
 

ManuelGomes

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Dec 4, 2014
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I was also wondering if EPYC had anything to do with Intel EPIC myself. Might be a tease indeed.
Videos are nice, naming... well!!

AMD's complete solution is looking pretty good for the mMP. The Vega cards are fugly as hell though, but since we'll have custom cards for the mMP no problem there :)
[doublepost=1495018499][/doublepost]Italian cities it is now.
 

cube

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Itanic sank so deep I had forgotten about the EPIC acronym.

One would think they decided on the name this past week.
 
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Sko

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One interesting tidbit from the Q&A was when Lisa Su said that the five major PC-OEMs are preparing products with Ryzen and that one should expect to see Ryzen coming to more platforms - platforms, not manufacturers. Hmmm.
 

Stacc

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Jun 22, 2005
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One interesting tidbit from the Q&A was when Lisa Su said that the five major PC-OEMs are preparing products with Ryzen and that one should expect to see Ryzen coming to more platforms - platforms, not manufacturers. Hmmm.

There are lots of reasons AMD CPUs would be a good fit for Apple products. Number 1 in my mind is the AMD's future APUs, which promise better graphics performance for notebooks and all-in-ones. Add to that Apple can exert more control over AMD when it comes to future product directions and that ex Apple employees led the designs for Zen and Vega and it doesn't seem far fetched at all.
 

deconstruct60

macrumors G5
Mar 10, 2009
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One interesting tidbit from the Q&A was when Lisa Su said that the five major PC-OEMs are preparing products with Ryzen and that one should expect to see Ryzen coming to more platforms - platforms, not manufacturers. Hmmm.

Doesn't necessarily mean Apple. AMD has console gaming customers (while more custom think something like Steam Machine boxes since AMD has such a high gamer affinity). There is a variant of Epyc that is BGA intended to be targeted at Networking and embedded systems. ( NAS/SAN storage controller boxes. Software based network switches. )

The "Ryzen Pro" with manageability could easily include the variants being pitched toward video gambling gaming machines.

There are lots of other platforms besides Apple where AMD already has some traction that would be that much better with Ryzen. The have an embedded business unit that is doing farily well already. For example:

https://www.qnap.com/en/news/2016/q...3-1-10gbe-expandability-and-4k-video-playback

More of these lower midrange NAS boxes are trying to take on more Docker/Container loads. More cores and better virtualization implementation will help with that. bigger perf/$ AMD could get deeper traction.


Apple would be a major break out. Apple would probably be more happy with a properly "paranoid", somewhat spooked, Intel that was ready to lower some prices and build more stuff tuned to Apple's requirements. AMD is definitely a bigger boogeyman that can trot out at their Intel meetings at this point.


The Rzyen APUs aren't out yet so don't really know if they will 'work' for Apple. That they are Vega + HBMv2 based may have problems hitting Apple's desired price point. Also for laptops and All-in-One there is no Thunderbolt track record which is likely a very hard requirement for those systems specifically. ( there is a limited argument for TB less Mac Pro. For those systems there is really none. ). Should be technically doable, but AMD hasn't done it yet.
 
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