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And Zen is screwed because it doesn't support SGX.
So you swallowed Koyoot's cherry-picked chart? And ignored subsequent posts showing that i9 is more efficient than many Ryzen CPUs?
i9 series used thermal paste. That's already screwed up because it wont gonna holds its temperature. i9 7900X has 23% better performance but it consumes 62% more power. i9 have the worst power efficient.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i9-7900x-skylake-x,5092-12.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i9-7900x-skylake-x,5092-11.html
Not only that, Intel i9 limited its performance like PCIE lines, Nvme software upgrade price, does not support TB3, and more.
Check youtube and google. So many people surprised intel i9's power consumption and heat issue already.
8 core CPUs are really best you can buy If you consider cost of platform, performance, and performance per watt. 10 core is different story. Still it requires water coolling, and it consumes around 185W alone, So this is a concern for iMac Pro. We shall see how iMac works under load, but I dont have high hopes for it...
Yes, Thunderbolt protocol will be open to everybody next year and that is the year we might see the switch from Intel to AMD CPUs in Apple computers. Will we see this? Time will tell.
P.S. Watch out with calling things out about Nvidia and Intel on this forum. You will be called fanboy, from the most vocal ones
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http://ranker.sisoftware.net/show_r...e4dce4d1e1d2e2c4b68bbb9df89da090b6c5f8c8&l=en
253 GB/s memory bandwidth on Epyc CPU.
This bandwidth wipes the floor with everything we have seen to this day. Unbelievable. It is nr. 1 in the ranking.
253 GB/s memory bandwidth on Epyc CPU.
This bandwidth wipes the floor with everything we have seen to this day. Unbelievable. It is nr. 1 in the ranking.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6iolol/seems_like_epyc_is_on_a_b2_stepping_of_zen_arch/
It appears that they are not worst dies
.Yes, there could be dual core Ryzen and quad core Threadripper.
But it is pointless.
Maybe they will be the worst if everything becomes B2 then.https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6iolol/seems_like_epyc_is_on_a_b2_stepping_of_zen_arch/
It appears that they are not worst dies
Yes, there could be dual core Ryzen and quad core Threadripper.
But it is pointless.
I don't think those chips would be pointless, quad core TR would get double the L3 and have more PCIe lanes. It hangs on whether there will be relatively cheap X399 motherboards, and having more people buying into the platform would facilitate that happening.
Dual core Ryzen would compete against Pentium.
One word for the bolded: no
.4 Core/4 Thread Ryzen 3 is supposed to compete with Pentium.
In other words, the single socket system might have PCIe throttling, the dual socket should be OK.
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I don't see why there could not be $150 X399 motherboards eventually if there's $180 X99.One word for the bolded: no
4 Core/4 Thread Ryzen 3 is supposed to compete with Pentium.
I think that Ryzen will still cost quite a bit more than Pentium.
I mean they make sense theoretically. In practice, the yields may be too good.
But it is seeing 8-core Epyc that tells that might be a possibility. Although this might be happening if B2 also means tweaked process perhaps.
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Because AM4 motherboards are costing this much. TR4 socket will cost at least 299$.
8 core CPUs are really best you can buy If you consider cost of platform, performance, and performance per watt. 10 core is different story. Still it requires water coolling, and it consumes around 185W alone, So this is a concern for iMac Pro. We shall see how iMac works under load, but I dont have high hopes for it...
Yes, Thunderbolt protocol will be open to everybody next year and that is the year we might see the switch from Intel to AMD CPUs in Apple computers. Will we see this? Time will tell.
P.S. Watch out with calling things out about Nvidia and Intel on this forum. You will be called fanboy, from the most vocal ones
I really doubt that TB3 will be available in AMD motherboard because the controller will be available only in Intel CPU. The controller chip will no longer available on the motherboard but CPU.
Thunderbolt Protocol will be open to everybody. MoBo manufacturers, CPU manufacturers, ARM vendors, GPU manufacturers... etc.
Show me MoBos with similar amount of features to X399 MoBos, but on AM4 platform, and their cost. Yup. They are all 180 and up. That is why X399 will be at least 299$.
No. Intel announced that their CPUs will come with Thunderbolt, but they did not specified when it will happen
https://www.wired.com/2017/05/intels-plan-thunderbolt-3-things/
Next year. They already specified about TB3. Without the TB3 controller, AMD CPU cants use TB3.
It does not make sense to open Thunderbolt Protocol to everybody, if it is tied only to Intel CPUs, don't you think?
A protocol will be open to everybody BUT the controller will be only available in Intel CPU. So AMD CPU wont gonna use TB3 at all. Protocol and controller are different things. Yes, people can make TB3 accessories or computer with TB3 but CPU has to be Intel. Not AMD. Intel wont gonna give controllers to AMD since they have to compete with AMD Ryzen.