I also was referring to your immediately preceding post, and many others recently where the poster links to a video without providing a clue as to why we might want to spend many minutes watching a very high noise-to-signal ratio video.
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It is one of those short versus videos with the nice music showing some benchmarks where you have to put some faith.
The 7800X looks quite interesting at least while Threadripper is not there. If you can find a cheap enough motherboard that you like for it to make sense.
A 15 minute video vs. a simple 15 second table is a no brainer for me. If it's a video link alone - I won't click.
Not the same beast. Epyc is for server, Pro is for workstation. I just find it weird that they didn't include the top end on their Pro plateform yet make it available on their consumer serie, even though the performance difference is tiny.
Interesting that nobody posted review of new Xeon CPUs from Intel and Epyc from AMD.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11544/intel-skylake-ep-vs-amd-epyc-7000-cpu-battle-of-the-decade
AMD basically wins 70% of tests, including efficiency test, with CPUS that cost around 50% of Intel CPUs.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11544/intel-skylake-ep-vs-amd-epyc-7000-cpu-battle-of-the-decade
AMD basically wins 70% of tests, including efficiency test, with CPUS that cost around 50% of Intel CPUs.
Actually it was most exciting news lately. It was interesting to see where we were and where we will be in servers in close timeframe.
The article/review is so bad, I'm surprised it came from anandtech.
The whole setup doesn't make sense. Neither for Intel nor for AMD.
https://www.techpowerup.com/235092/...cessors-glued-together-in-official-slide-deck
http://www.pakpg.com/amd-epyc-processors-glued-together-intel-losing-epyc-cpu-performances-test/
https://www.computerbase.de/2017-07/intel-xeon-skylake-sp-purley/3/#
I think Intel hired the marketing team straight from Radeon Technology Group. The same level of incompetence.
Funniest part. Intel claims that Zeppelin CPUs(AMD Zen Core codename) are not server CPUs. Which kinda shows their lack of knowledge or complete incompetence. They are strictly server CPUs. They were designed with servers in mind in the first place, hence power efficiency and security features, and memory controller allowing extremely high bandwidths.
I have never seen so much FUD in any marketing material.
http://www.pakpg.com/amd-epyc-processors-glued-together-intel-losing-epyc-cpu-performances-test/
https://www.computerbase.de/2017-07/intel-xeon-skylake-sp-purley/3/#
I think Intel hired the marketing team straight from Radeon Technology Group. The same level of incompetence.
Funniest part. Intel claims that Zeppelin CPUs(AMD Zen Core codename) are not server CPUs. Which kinda shows their lack of knowledge or complete incompetence. They are strictly server CPUs. They were designed with servers in mind in the first place, hence power efficiency and security features, and memory controller allowing extremely high bandwidths.
I have never seen so much FUD in any marketing material.
Games are not optimized for L3 Victim-type caches.
I won't need to brace myself until the day that AMD makes processors that are compatible with Intel processors.Cube, you're right. Ryzen 5 1600 209$, Ryzen 7 1700 269$(starting price of Ryzen 5 1600X(!)).
Brace Yourselves. Threadripper is coming!I suppose AMD is making a room in pricing structure for TR CPUs.
Please elaborate on how this would be the case.
I would think it is more likely that different programs just exhibit different cache behavior.
You are not the only person in the world. Contrary to you, I am a fan of my money.
P.S. If Intel will not adjust their pricing, and solve their power consumption, its Intel who will be forced to build AMD compatible CPUs.
If you missed. In servers For the price of single Xeon 8176 you will get two top end Epyc CPUs. And AMD platform with TWO CPUs will consume the same amount of power as Intel platform with ONE CPU. Do I have to show benchmarks of single CPU comparisons between them? I know you are AMD hater, but there is very much to root for them from technology perspective.
I was told by one of game developers that in fact its Victim cache that is affecting gaming performance. Skylake-X chips have L3 Victim cache, exactly the same type that Ryzen has.
L3 Victim cache when you have scalable data situations. In essence if you are building compute clusters from multiple CPUs it is best thing, you can do from design point of view. Intel Skylake - X has Mesh topology right now, on monolithic die. Ryzen/Threadripper/Epic - you know. Multiple dies on MCM package.
Yes, but that is different than saying that non-data oriented applications get optimized for cache.
I did not got any more details. Funnily enough, it appears that there may come time, that game devs will be forced to try to update scheduling for Victim caches, because both: Intel and AMD uses them.
So Intel's decision to go with L3 victim cache may be thing that benefits AMD the most...