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Night Spring

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Another Con you might have forgotten is that iPhones often reboot on their own.
I have yet to experience that on any of my android devices but I have had that happen on all of my previous iPhones at least a few times a week.

With all the iPod touches, iPhones and iPads I've had, this has happened rarely -- only about once a year, if that. Unless you have a jailbroken device, iOS is rock solid.


I am really not sure what the argument is all about, or why we need to argument about which phone scrolls the fastest or the best. Seems kind of dumb to me. Maybe it is just me, but I could care less which scrolls faster. I think they are both smooth and work well. That is all that matters to me.

I'm not sure how we got into this argument either, and I agree, if it's smooth and works well, it doesn't matter much if one is faster than the other. I just jumped in to try to describe iOS scrolling more precisely, as some people seemed to be under the impression that scrolling speed in iOS doesn't vary at all.
 

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With all the iPod touches, iPhones and iPads I've had, this has happened rarely -- only about once a year, if that. Unless you have a jailbroken device, iOS is rock solid.




I'm not sure how we got into this argument either, and I agree, if it's smooth and works well, it doesn't matter much if one is faster than the other. I just jumped in to try to describe iOS scrolling more precisely, as some people seemed to be under the impression that scrolling speed in iOS doesn't vary at all.

Yea I agree I saw people posting about iOS scrolling and they has no idea.
 

SnowLeopard2008

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In Safari, no matter how fast you flick, it will only go a predetermined distance. That is what he's saying, you don't really have control over how far you want to scroll (if trying to scroll quickly).


You can disable stock apps so that they are no longer in the app drawer. If you want to totally remove them from the device, you can easily do so with root access. There is no need for a custom rom at all. All in all, disabling the app takes care of it, so there's no need to root or use a custom rom to accomplish this.



I would be one of the people that "siri sucks" for. Actually, I wouldn't say it sucks, I would say it just isn't very functional in the sense that it doesn't provide much to me. For example, Siri is really only beneficial if you want it to do something for you, or answer a question. That is pretty much the limit of it's usefulness. With Google Now, I get that sort of functionality too (this part I don't use often), but I also get usefulness even when I am not actively using it. For example, yesterday I ordered something off of Amazon, and Google Now automatically kept me apprised of the packages tracking progress. Another example is a couple weeks ago, a charity event was added to my calendar by someone, and Google Now let me know I needed to leave early to get there on time because there was traffic on the route there. I also keep a Google Now widget on my lockscreen, and it changes to show me pertinent information throughout the day. Google Now let's me know when it's people's birthdays, suggests articles I might be interested in based on what I've been reading (and it's suggestions have been fantastic btw), suggests local events I might want to attend, and various other things. Bear in mind, it does all these things without me actually having to initiate its use. It does it on its own. Heck, it even learns the routes I tend to take to certain places and will adjust the trip times (and traffic) based on the route I like to take, as opposed to the route it normally might have suggested. Things like this are why I find Siri to not be very useful to me. Sure Siri has some decent voice functionality, and can answer questions, but truthfully I don't find myself using anything of that nature very often. I find the other features of Google Now to be much more useful.

No it doesn't. iOS scrolling is directly correlated to velocity. Any one saying different is just a troll. The only differences between Android and iOS scrolling is that you can choose scrolling method on Android AND it still will lag, stutter and show incomplete tiles. Yes, I still get tiling, lag and stutter on a device with 2GB of RAM and running nothing else in the background. Pathetic. My iPhone 4 with 256MB (or was it 512, I forget) doesn't do this at all.

Siri and Now are different. You're basically skewing towards Google Now based on YOUR perspective whereas I'm saying it's different for everyone. While I'm trying to be as unbiased as possible, you're doing the exact opposite. So stop, we get that Now works better for you. That isn't universal.

Another Con you might have forgotten is that iPhones often reboot on their own.
I have yet to experience that on any of my android devices but I have had that happen on all of my previous iPhones at least a few times a week.

Right... I'm taking my 5th break today after trying (keyword: trying) to test an app on the Samsung S3 and S4, both of which decided to just shut down. Developing apps for Android is just a pain. In every place it hurts. iOS is must much better. I've never had an iPhone that randomly shut down. On Android? I can remember at least 5-6 times on pretty much any mainstream device although it has been happening less frequently in the last year or so.
 

strausd

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Some android browsers give you a scroll button which you can drag. On galaxy default broswer you can double-tap to go to top. imo, scrolling back to top may not be that essential (why you want to go back to top after you have finished reading??)
Haha Samsung's double tap to top is a joke. If you actually think this is comparable to a single tap on a touch screen, you should probably lay off whatever it is you're smoking ;)

And tapping once to go to the top after reading makes more sense than having a one tap to the bottom without reading. Often times after I finish reading an article, I go back to the top to read a new article. Maybe you don't know this, but websites typically have their menus at the top of a page, not the bottom :eek:

Wrong. The amount scrolled is constant per flip (no matter how fast you do it). So for a long page, you have to flip n-times whether you are doing slow or fast flips. On android, the amount scrolled is proportion to how fast/long you flip.

See the folliowing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH1GDLunomY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Dn-8aR_Ht4
No, you're wrong. (Surprise? ;))

The second video even shows it. But I thought I would make it a little more clear for those who are blinded by their bias of hatred.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT2A4aXhKUI

You can be pro-ios but if what you put out is not true or inaccurate, people can rebut you.

And that is exactly what I am doing to you. Maybe you should look a little harder next time? ;)

Also, what makes you think I am pro-iOS?

Maybe this will show you I am fairly unbiased. Although at the time of writing that post, I was indeed an iPhone fanboy. But coming from an iPhone fanboy perspective makes it even harder to switch to Android, yet that is exactly what I did. I don't know any iPhone fanboys who prefer using Android. Or any iPhone fanboy who sold their iPhone after buying an Android. To me, that sounds like the exact opposite. Or maybe you just automatically believe someone to be an iOS fanboy if they don't agree with your opinions. That sounds like great logic, keep it up :)

Also, your giant assumption proved one of my earlier posts.

Actually mate - my account is still here - don't know why you're accusing other people of being 'my other account'.
MacRumors has rules against name calling, so I will avoid that part of this response. But maybe you should go back to that post and look at who I quoted and who I was responding to. Then maybe you can understand what was going on. Or continue taking things out of context. Whatever floats your boat.

It's not your view on scrolling that is irritating, its your attitude towards this whole argument. I made a point - you said I was wrong. I politely corrected you - you ignored my rebuttal and told me to chill, and are now acting like I was the only that got overly sensitive.
You went on a rant after we were talking about something as simple as scrolling. And correcting me is not at all what you did. What you did was saw spew false information that you regard as truth. See my video above to know what it is like to be corrected. But you, sir, did not correct anyone.

I welcome discussion here, as I am the person that started this thread. I have no problem with you being pro-iOS, being a primarily Apple-centric site you expect that around here - but what frustrates me is your blind dedication to something that is fundamentally incorrect to what you claim.

No, you welcome discussion with those who think the exact same as you. If someone has differing views on the simplest of topics, you jump all over them and go on a rant.

Much like the kind person I quoted earlier in this post (mib1800), your giant assumption proved one of my earlier posts. Yes, this is an Apple centric site. But this corner of the MacRumors forums clearly is not.

So I am sorry that liking the way scrolling works in iOS constitutes me as an iOS fanboy, or even liking one thing about it automatically makes me pro-iOS. If I was so pro-iOS as you say, why do I prefer the Nexus 4? Your argument just doesn't add up and quickly crumbles against the evidence. Also, read above.

No matter how much you want it to be true, Safari has a set scrolling speed/distance, regardless of flick speed/pressure. And as for your 'iOS can get to the top of a webpage in one tap' - so can Android, I've been doing it for a while. You just gotta know where to look ;)

1. You're wrong. I proved it.
2. Android doesn't have a default tap once to go to the top of a webpage.

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No it doesn't. iOS scrolling is directly correlated to velocity. Any one saying different is just a troll. The only differences between Android and iOS scrolling is that you can choose scrolling method on Android AND it still will lag, stutter and show incomplete tiles. Yes, I still get tiling, lag and stutter on a device with 2GB of RAM and running nothing else in the background. Pathetic. My iPhone 4 with 256MB (or was it 512, I forget) doesn't do this at all.

Siri and Now are different. You're basically skewing towards Google Now based on YOUR perspective whereas I'm saying it's different for everyone. While I'm trying to be as unbiased as possible, you're doing the exact opposite. So stop, we get that Now works better for you. That isn't universal.



Right... I'm taking my 5th break today after trying (keyword: trying) to test an app on the Samsung S3 and S4, both of which decided to just shut down. Developing apps for Android is just a pain. In every place it hurts. iOS is must much better. I've never had an iPhone that randomly shut down. On Android? I can remember at least 5-6 times on pretty much any mainstream device although it has been happening less frequently in the last year or so.

I shot a video of iOS scrolling earlier to prove our points.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT2A4aXhKUI
 
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SnowLeopard2008

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I shot a video of iOS scrolling earlier to prove our points.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT2A4aXhKUI

Good! I didn't feel like going through all that trouble just to show some ignorant dude that probably will claim the video was fake or something ludicrous. Although I think the OP was trying to incorrectly point out that scrolling "one time" not repeatedly will result in the same amount scrolled with no regards to velocity. Even so, that is still incorrect.
 
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Shadow Puppy

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No it doesn't. iOS scrolling is directly correlated to velocity. Any one saying different is just a troll. The only differences between Android and iOS scrolling is that you can choose scrolling method on Android AND it still will lag, stutter and show incomplete tiles. Yes, I still get tiling, lag and stutter on a device with 2GB of RAM and running nothing else in the background. Pathetic. My iPhone 4 with 256MB (or was it 512, I forget) doesn't do this at all.
Lag and stutter? :confused: Sorry but I'm not seeing that.

I shot a video of iOS scrolling earlier to prove our points.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT2A4aXhKUI
I too shot a video, and as you can see, the scrolling is much faster on Android (where you can control it precisely). It took you 9 flicks, and a considerable amount of effort to get to the bottom of that page, while on Android it took 2 flicks to get to the bottom of the same page. I didn't have to make a deliberate attempt to continuously flick and to increase the speed. One quick flick can send the page scrolling a large amount. On the other hand, I can scroll as slowly as I want. The bottom line is, I can control exactly how I want to scroll on Android. With iOS, there is a preset amount it will scroll with one flick, hence why you needed a rapid succession of flicks (totaling more than 4 times the number I did) to accomplish the same thing.


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Siri and Now are different. You're basically skewing towards Google Now based on YOUR perspective whereas I'm saying it's different for everyone. While I'm trying to be as unbiased as possible, you're doing the exact opposite. So stop, we get that Now works better for you. That isn't universal.
Don't like reading comprehension I see.... I CLEARLY said "FOR ME"....but apparently you missed that...or the fact that Siri doesn't cut it FOR ME, just really bothers you a lot. :p

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Oh its you again. What happened to your other MR account? ;)
ooooook..... :confused:

I clearly made the point that it is my opinion that iOS scrolling is geared towards reading. That is made evident by the simple feature of tapping to go to the top.
Fixed it for ya :)

Plus if you need to get to the bottom of a page quickly, iOS will indeed scroll faster depending on how fast you flick and the length of time between flicks. If you flick fast enough with a short time inbetween, you will see it scroll faster than stock Android. Just tried it on my iPad and it did it.
I'd beg to differ. You might THINK you're scrolling fast, but you're not scrolling faster than on Android.

But go ahead, keep thinking whatever you want. Sorry my view on scrolling offended you so much. I guess I should know better to not express any sort of pro-iOS opinion around here ;)
Chill. (sound familiar? lol) :p
 

SnowLeopard2008

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Lag and stutter? :confused: Sorry but I'm not seeing that.


I too shot a video, and as you can see, the scrolling is much faster on Android (where you can control it precisely). It took you 9 flicks, and a considerable amount of effort to get to the bottom of that page, while on Android it took 2 flicks to get to the bottom of the same page. I didn't have to make a deliberate attempt to continuously flick and to increase the speed. One quick flick can send the page scrolling a large amount. On the other hand, I can scroll as slowly as I want. The bottom line is, I can control exactly how I want to scroll on Android. With iOS, there is a preset amount it will scroll with one flick, hence why you needed a rapid succession of flicks (totaling more than 4 times the number I did) to accomplish the same thing.
YouTube: video

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Don't like reading comprehension I see.... I CLEARLY said "FOR ME"....but apparently you missed that...or the fact that Siri doesn't cut it FOR ME, just really bothers you a lot. :p

It's not preset. The guy who shot that video (not yours, the one you replied to) didn't fully understand the claim you were making. Your claim, correct me if I'm wrong, is that with ONE SINGLE flick motion of the finger, iOS scrolling scrolls a pre-determined (by Apple) amount of the page regardless of a "slower" flick or "faster" flick and that Android has many options (Google and third party) as to how scrolling works. The first half is completely and irrefutably incorrect. iOS does not scroll a preset amount. While you can't change how it works (it doesn't work as you say at all), it is dynamic as to how much is scrolled.

As for your blubbering, I clearly appeased both sides (Siri and Google Now) by saying they are designed differently and are meant to solve different problems and usage scenarios. Completely unbiased. Then you refute half my post (the Siri half) and repeatedly said "Siri sucks" (your quote) and how it doesn't work for you. Either you can't read English (and assumed I'm an idiot, quite the opposite), you can't comprehend English, or you just want to put down Siri in favor of Google Now (which is a logical flaw) still without realizing that you're essentially arguing that the sky is blue and Mars is red. Which is, of course, completely meaningless in this context.
 

Shadow Puppy

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It's not preset. The guy who shot that video (not yours, the one you replied to) didn't fully understand the claim you were making. Your claim, correct me if I'm wrong, is that with ONE SINGLE flick motion of the finger, iOS scrolling scrolls a pre-determined (by Apple) amount of the page regardless of a "slower" flick or "faster" flick
No. What I am saying is that no matter how hard of a flick you make, it will only travel the maximum predetermined distance. The harder you flick on Android, the further the scroll. I hard flick, or a very hard flick on iOS both travel the same distance.

As for your blubbering, I clearly appeased both sides (Siri and Google Now) by saying they are designed differently and are meant to solve different problems and usage scenarios. Completely unbiased. Then you refute half my post (the Siri half)
I didn't refute a single thing. Improve your comprehension skills. I simply built on your very statement.

and repeatedly said "Siri sucks" (your quote) and how it doesn't work for you.
Repeatedly said Siri sucks? Go back and read...this time try to understand. BTW, it was you that said Siri sucks for others. I merely quoted your phrase, and then very CLEARLY said that I wouldn't say it sucks...LEARN TO COMPREHEND WHAT YOU READ.
Here are my exact words (following your statement):
Originally Posted by SnowLeopard2008
I agree. Google Now isn't hands-free at all. But to be fair, that's not what Google was trying to do either. For me, Siri works better because it's on-demand. For others, Siri sucks.

I would be one of the people that "siri sucks" for. Actually, I wouldn't say it sucks, I would say it just isn't very functional in the sense that it doesn't provide much to me.

Either you can't read English (and assumed I'm an idiot, quite the opposite), you can't comprehend English, or you just want to put down Siri in favor of Google Now (which is a logical flaw) still without realizing that you're essentially arguing that the sky is blue and Mars is red. Which is, of course, completely meaningless in this context.
Obviously it is you that is struggling to read. I stated the exact same thing you did, that they do different things, and because of that I don't like one, and like the other. I then detailed the reasoning behind why, and for some reason it hurt your feelings...even though we stated the same thing. *shakes head* :eek:
 

SnowLeopard2008

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No. What I am saying is that no matter how hard of a flick you make, it will only travel the maximum predetermined distance. The harder you flick on Android, the further the scroll. I hard flick, or a very hard flick on iOS both travel the same distance.


I didn't refute a single thing. Improve your comprehension skills. I simply built on your very statement.


Repeatedly said Siri sucks? Go back and read...this time try to understand. BTW, it was you that said Siri sucks for others. I merely quoted your phrase, and then very CLEARLY said that I wouldn't say it sucks...LEARN TO COMPREHEND WHAT YOU READ.
Here are my exact words (following your statement):
Originally Posted by SnowLeopard2008
I agree. Google Now isn't hands-free at all. But to be fair, that's not what Google was trying to do either. For me, Siri works better because it's on-demand. For others, Siri sucks.

I would be one of the people that "siri sucks" for. Actually, I wouldn't say it sucks, I would say it just isn't very functional in the sense that it doesn't provide much to me.


Obviously it is you that is struggling to read. I stated the exact same thing you did, that they do different things, and because of that I don't like one, and like the other. I then detailed the reasoning behind why, and for some reason it hurt your feelings...even though we stated the same thing. *shakes head* :eek:

You claim I'm wrong. Then you claim you're building on my statement? You can't argue against me and not refute my statement. If you aren't refuting anything I said, then you agree with me. And good thing too because your claims are 100% incorrect.

Learn to think properly.
 

Shadow Puppy

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You claim I'm wrong. Then you claim you're building on my statement? You can't argue against me and not refute my statement. If you aren't refuting anything I said, then you agree with me. And good thing too because your claims are 100% incorrect.

Learn to think properly.

Now you're trying to mix what I said about scrolling, with the statement about Siri and Google Now. Try to save face all you want, but the bottom line is you had no idea what you were talking about when you said I was refuting your statement. You CLEARLY had no clue, yet you went on the attack.... :rolleyes: My statements about Siri and Google Now did indeed build on what you stated, and clearly was not a refute. Now you want to bring the scrolling statement into the picture, which had nothing to do with your alleging I refuted what you stated about Siri and Google Now. Run along, you clearly have nothing of value to contribute, and are senselessly looking for a fight. I haven't time to play with you. Have a nice night. Feel free to respond to me when you have something of substance to say. If you wish to continue with your nonsensical ramblings, you will not be receiving a response from me. *tips hat* :)
 

SnowLeopard2008

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Now you're trying to mix what I said about scrolling, with the statement about Siri and Google Now. Try to save face all you want, but the bottom line is you had no idea what you were talking about when you said I was refuting your statement. You CLEARLY had no clue, yet you went on the attack.... :rolleyes: My statements about Siri and Google Now did indeed build on what you stated, and clearly was not a refute. Now you want to bring the scrolling statement into the picture, which had nothing to do with your alleging I refuted what you stated about Siri and Google Now. Run along, you clearly have nothing of value to contribute, and are senselessly looking for a fight. I haven't time to play with you. Have a nice night. Feel free to respond to me when you have something of substance to say. If you wish to continue with your nonsensical ramblings, you will not be receiving a response from me. *tips hat* :)

You still never proved your scrolling point. Arguing about semantics and trying to twist my words around is just beating around the bush.
 

JoeG4

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Galaxy Note 2 owner here.. I put it next to my original iPod Touch yesterday and snickered at how tiny the screen was!

My phone scrolls fine o_O
 
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SnowLeopard2008

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He posted his video, I posted mine. The video speaks for itself...
YouTube: video

Your point about scrolling primarily referred to iOS scrolling. I'm not saying on Android you can choose and modify to your heart's content. If past experience is anything to go by, Android scrolling is problematic. If you look closely at your own video, it scrolls by the same amount with each flick. There's no elasticity factor either. It's as if there is no friction on Android. iOS feels more like if you are scrolling an actual roll of paper. You can visibly see and feel the friction and elasticity.
 

strausd

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Lag and stutter? :confused: Sorry but I'm not seeing that.


I too shot a video, and as you can see in my opinion, the scrolling is much faster on Android (where you can control it precisely). It took you 9 flicks, and a considerable amount of effort in my opinion to get to the bottom of that page, while on Android it took 2 flicks to get to the bottom of the same page. I didn't have to make a deliberate attempt in my opinion to continuously flick and to increase the speed. One quick flick can send the page scrolling a large amount in my opinion. On the other hand, I can scroll as slowly as I want. The bottom line is, I can control exactly how I want to scroll on Android in my opinion. With iOS, there is a preset amount it will scroll with one flick in my opinion, hence why you needed a rapid succession of flicks in my opinion (totaling more than 4 times the number I did) to accomplish the same thing in my opinion.
YouTube: video

1. Number of flicks is irrelevant as I zoomed in extremely close to simulate a very long page.

2. On a long page on Android, it still requires multiple flicks to get back to the top. On iOS, only 1 tap.

3. I didn't need to make a deliberate attempt either. If you watch closely, my flicks stay about the same speed in multiple cases. It is more about timing. And really natural flick by the user. A natural flick on iOS takes you a good amount when reading. A natural flick on Android takes you way too far when reading. iOS is smart enough to see the timing and automatically starts scrolling faster. Android isn't that smart. If you have a super long web page that would normally take 100 flicks to get to the bottom on Android, it wouldn't be able to notice that. On iOS, it notices that and automatically scrolls faster.

4. As shown in my video, I can control it. And there is a larger difference from slow to fast, giving you more "dynamic range" I guess you could say in terms of scrolling.

5. If you look closely at the video, you don't need rapid flicks. That was just one case. On the way down the very first time, flicks are at an average length apart.

Don't like reading comprehension I see.... I CLEARLY said "FOR ME"....but apparently you missed that...or the fact that Siri doesn't cut it FOR ME, just really bothers you a lot in my opinion. :p

Apparently my scrolling preferences bother 3 people on here quite a bit as well, you included ;)

ooooook..... :confused:
It was actually pointed out by someone else. The exact day The iGentleman (ironic name considering his attitude) last posted was the very first day you posted. It was also in correlation with personal attacks and moderator intervention. Hmmmm...

I'd beg to differ. You might THINK you're scrolling fast, but you're not scrolling faster than on Android in my opinion.
Source?

Chill. (sound familiar? lol) :p
Haha that actually made me laugh. Sure it wasn't original, much like Android, but at least it was comical.

Fixed it for ya :) in my opinion
Maybe you don't understand typical writing styles, but whenever anyone posts anything, it is always their opinion. It never needs to be clarified. But for whatever reason people these days are too sensitive and need a qualifier or their feelings get hurt. But if you want to state the obvious I will do that to your posts, plus this one ;)


No. What I am saying is that no matter how hard of a flick you make, it will only travel the maximum predetermined distance in my opinion. The harder you flick on Android, the further the scroll. I hard flick, or a very hard flick on iOS both travel the same distance in my opinion.


I didn't refute a single thing in my opinion. Improve your comprehension skills. I simply built on your very statement in my opinion.


Repeatedly said Siri sucks? Go back and read...this time try to understand. BTW, it was you that said Siri sucks for others. I merely quoted your phrase, and then very CLEARLY in my opinion said that I wouldn't say it sucks...LEARN TO COMPREHEND WHAT YOU READ.
Here are my exact words (following your statement):
Originally Posted by SnowLeopard2008
I agree. Google Now isn't hands-free at all. But to be fair, that's not what Google was trying to do either. For me, Siri works better because it's on-demand. For others, Siri sucks.

I would be one of the people that "siri sucks" for. Actually, I wouldn't say it sucks, I would say it just isn't very functional in the sense that it doesn't provide much to me (hey you actually did it this time! But hopefully you understand this wording is implied by context and not needed explicitly. But hey, you are still learning :).


Obviously it is you that is struggling to read in my opinion. I stated the exact same thing you did in my opinion, that they do different things in my opinion, and because of that I don't like one, and like the other. I then detailed the reasoning behind why, and for some reason it hurt your feelings in my opinion...even though we stated the same thing in my opinion. *shakes head* :eek:

Now you're trying to mix what I said about scrolling, with the statement about Siri and Google Now in my opinion. Try to save face all you want, but the bottom line is you had no idea what you were talking about when you said I was refuting your statement in my opinion. You CLEARLY had no clue, yet you went on the attack in my opinion.... :rolleyes: My statements about Siri and Google Now did indeed build on what you stated, and clearly was not a refute in my opinion. Now you want to bring the scrolling statement into the picture, which had nothing to do with your alleging I refuted what you stated about Siri and Google Now in my opinion. Run along, you clearly have nothing of value to contribute, and are senselessly looking for a fight in my opinion. I haven't time to play with you in my opinion. Have a nice night. Feel free to respond to me when you have something of substance to say in my opinion. If you wish to continue with your nonsensical ramblings, you will not be receiving a response from me. *tips hat* :)

He posted his video, I posted mine. The video speaks for itself in my opinion...
YouTube: video

Hopefully you get the picture. Obviously opinions are implied. Or maybe you don't understand what context means or how it relates to writing?

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Your point about scrolling primarily referred to iOS scrolling. I'm not saying on Android you can choose and modify to your heart's content. If past experience is anything to go by, Android scrolling is problematic. If you look closely at your own video, it scrolls by the same amount with each flick. There's no elasticity factor either. It's as if there is no friction on Android. iOS feels more like if you are scrolling an actual roll of paper. You can visibly see and feel the friction and elasticity.

It is getting pointless. You can't have an intelligent debate with people who do not follow any sort of logic.
 

strausd

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If iOS has a set scrolling speed, is this a problem then? Reading this thread I'm struggling to see the point that is being made quite honestly.

Well in this section of MacRumors, if you don't say something good about Google, people will get mad. Also, if you same something good about iOS, people will get mad. There doesn't have to be an underlying point.
 

The-Real-Deal82

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Well in this section of MacRumors, if you don't say something good about Google, people will get mad. Also, if you same something good about iOS, people will get mad. There doesn't have to be an underlying point.
I do get the impression the crusade to prove which phone is king has now reached desperate levels I must admit.
 

strausd

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I do get the impression the crusade to prove which phone is king has now reached desperate levels I must admit.

Haha totally agree. Apparently I am not allowed to mention any features I miss about iOS. And gee, here I was thinking we were free to express our own opinions.
 
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