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Typical fanboy BS.. my edge plus from last yr is still as fast as the day I got it, plus I got a security update last week, any more lies you want to spread?

And thus lies the problem right there... you have the July update? And S7 customers on Tmo haven't even seen June yet. YMMV experience for sure.
 

I7guy

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Ha...reading the comments at the end of the article. Even Anandtech readers call them out for Apple bias...

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Calling someone or some publication out for bias is easy, you can just do it without having any real justification because you do t agree with the review.
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Anandtech? Why would non-Apple users read anything coming from that site? Just like anything written for AppleInsider? Pure Apple propaganda for those that love Apple.
You're right they wouldn't, non-Apple uses would just go to another site for pure android propaganda.:rolleyes:
 

jamezr

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Calling someone or some publication out for bias is easy, you can just do it without having any real justification because you do t agree with the review.
or.....you could make an informed decision from watching/reading their reviews over a period of time then make an informed decision. But you can only do that if you read/watch their reviews.
Reviewers are human...they have specific things they like and don't like. Some focus on display or camera. Then others favor aesthetics and feel in the hand. Then others want simplicity and a stock software look and feel.
They are all different.
 
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And thus lies the problem right there... you have the July update? And S7 customers on Tmo haven't even seen June yet. YMMV experience for sure.
What problem, I have none of the two main issues you state?
[doublepost=1467916237][/doublepost]As soon as I read that he didn't rate the camera higher than the 6s, jeez. Every single other reviewer on the Web says it's the best camera phone you can buy. Are they all wrong, or is he just a biased apple employee now?
 

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What problem, I have none of the two main issues you state?
[doublepost=1467916237][/doublepost]As soon as I read that he didn't rate the camera higher than the 6s, jeez. Every single other reviewer on the Web says it's the best camera phone you can buy. Are they all wrong, or is he just a biased apple employee now?

I honestly feel like I am reading a completely different article. Where does the author rate the 6S higher overall for the camera? The only thing I can find is that he says the video stabilization is better in 4K output. I don't think that is exactly controversial to the rest of the reviewers out there for the Snapdragon version.

I would argue that while it’s not worse than the iPhone 6s Plus, it is basically comparable. The real competition in this space comes from the HTC 10 and LG G5, the two of which manage to deliver arguably better still image output, and the HTC 10 manages to be comparable or better in video output other than slow motion. After a year of pointing out issues with slow motion video it seems Samsung has gotten around to shipping a solid implementation of this feature on the Galaxy S7, but they still seem to be limited by encode blocks on the Snapdragon 820 variant.

Seems pretty right in line with DxOMark, no?
http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles
 

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I honestly feel like I am reading a completely different article. Where does the author rate the 6S higher overall for the camera? The only thing I can find is that he says the video stabilization is better in 4K output. I don't think that is exactly controversial to the rest of the reviewers out there for the Snapdragon version.



Seems pretty right in line with DxOMark, no?
http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles
I was referring to the but where he said the s7 was in a par with the 6s.

In relation to the link you have posted, the opening sentence says the s7 is the mobile camera champion,
Was this meant to back up any claims that the s7 isn't the best camera phone on the market?
Last year's s6 edge gets a higher score than the 6s as well, so you have basically linked to a site which debuncts Anandtech's biased article, cheers..
 
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I was referring to the but where he said the s7 was in a par with the 6s.

In relation to the link you have posted, the opening sentence says the s7 is the mobile camera champion,
Was this meant to back up any claims that the s7 isn't the best camera phone on the market?
Last year's s6 edge gets a higher score than the 6s as well, so you have basically linked to a site which debuncts Anandtech's biased article, cheers..

OK, you are just looking for a champion crown. Gotcha. A four point difference in most all of the flagships, puts them all about on par in DxO as well. Which is honestly the truth. All have their positives and negatives. Samsung is the undisputed snap speed champ... picture quality lumped into one ranking is going to be complicated and subjective.

But since you want to see a winner, and Anandtech won't give that statement, there is obvious bias in your eyes.
 

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OK, you are just looking for a champion crown. Gotcha. A four point difference in most all of the flagships, puts them all about on par in DxO as well. Which is honestly the truth. All have their positives and negatives. Samsung is the undisputed snap speed champ... picture quality lumped into one ranking is going to be complicated and subjective.

But since you want to see a winner, and Anandtech won't give that statement, there is obvious bias in your eyes.
You have kindly linked to a Independant site that scores phones out of 100, s7 gets 88, s6 gets 86, the 6s gets 82, , it's not about me wanting to see a winner, the site you have put on display has told us who their Independant winner is. Once again, thanks for proving my point. You are now my fave poster on MR,
 

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You have kindly linked to a Independant site that scores phones out of 100, s7 gets 88, s6 gets 86, the 6s gets 82, , it's not about me wanting to see a winner, the site you have put on display has told us who their Independant winner is. Once again, thanks for proving my point. You are now my fave poster on MR,

Thank you. Yes, I see totally what you are saying now. Samsung is the king of cameras in any cell phone ever. There is no way someone can have a opinion any other way on something as measurable as preference for overall picture quality. If they don't, they are clearly bias.

An overall 6 point difference (cumulative score on many factors) on a scale to 100 clearly shows a massive, vast difference between them on an detailed independent report. That proves it is absolutely insulting to lump them in with the other plebeian flagships by any reviewer. So much bias everywhere. Just disgusting that whole media and their love for anything but Samsung.

Thank you so much for showing me the light. It is obvious my Nexus fanboyism went to my head. I am so excited for that Note release!
 
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I'm not saying anandtech is not biased or partial or whatever... But IMO they are the best for numbers. Yes you should read and consider their methodology in the writeup and not just look at the graph
 
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I'm not saying anandtech is not biased or partial or whatever... But IMO they are the best for numbers. Yes you should read and consider their methodology in the writeup and not just look at the graph
That's exactly what I use them for. I look at the graphs and data they collect and then their testing methodologies but I ignore their opinion pieces and instead draw my own conclusions.

A lot of opinion is biased in one way or another and thus I choose to ignore it. Same idea with video reviews, I mainly watch them to get a feel of the device and the camera/video quality, I take eveything said in the videos with a grain of salt though.
 
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Thank you. Yes, I see totally what you are saying now. Samsung is the king of cameras in any cell phone ever. There is no way someone can have a opinion any other way on something as measurable as preference for overall picture quality. If they don't, they are clearly bias.

An overall 6 point difference (cumulative score on many factors) on a scale to 100 clearly shows a massive, vast difference between them on an detailed independent report. That proves it is absolutely insulting to lump them in with the other plebeian flagships by any reviewer. So much bias everywhere. Just disgusting that whole media and their love for anything but Samsung.

Thank you so much for showing me the light. It is obvious my Nexus fanboyism went to my head. I am so excited for that Note release!

I thank you for your honesty sir, it is quite refreshing round these parts.
 

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Jaimie Rivera - Okay but I hate his videos about going from iPhone to HTC One M8 then back to iPhone 6. If I wanted to know about platform hoppers, I might as well go on this thread since there endless posts but trying Android then going back to iPhone. PocketNow hasn't been the same without Brandon and Michael.

C4ETech - Ash's reviews were not that polished at first, but he is the only Indian reviewer I can understand. Since we have Xiaomi, Oppo, Asus, Lenovo, Huawei, and other Asian brands here, I generally might check his reviews since the American reviewers aren't likely reviewing them.

The worst reviews come from PhoneArena. They are as biased to Apple and Samsung as CNET was biased to Sony over ten years ago. I never forgive them giving the Xperia ZR a 6.5/10. The guy who reviewed iPhone SE was a joke. Couldn't understand him. Worse than David Pierce. At least David can try to sound objective but we all know he thinks iPhone is the best out there and made two videos on The Verge professing his love for them. The PA reviewer for the SE tried to sound witty but wasn't. Sounded French. Didn't pay attention and deleted it soon after. Former PA, John V, is now on AA to show his awful reviewing skills.

I don't mind when review sites love iPhone. I don't care if that is their choice. But review the damn phone. There is no need to compare platforms or with iPhone. Then we had this whole narrative script about complaints about BUILD QUALITY. Then Samsung listened but omitted removable battery, sd slot, and water resist for the S6. I get people love Apple's design philosophy but it isn't always the right trend to start for everyone looking more function over form.

The irony here is Anandtech talk and test thoroughly like they are Android users. They are good with the technical details. But most iOS users only need the knowledge from reviewers on Amazon, PhoneScoop, Walmart, Best Buy, Apple, Target, MobileTechReview, PhoneArena, or whatever soccer mom to give the gist of it all in layman terms.
 
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jamezr

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That's exactly what I use them for. I look at the graphs and data they collect and then their testing methodologies but I ignore their opinion pieces and instead draw my own conclusions.

A lot of opinion is biased in one way or another and thus I choose to ignore it. Same idea with video reviews, I mainly watch them to get a feel of the device and the camera/video quality, I take eveything said in the videos with a grain of salt though.
Same here I like to get a variety of reviews to read/watch to get as much info as I can.
 
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He even mentioned that, then said, but it's doesn't match his data.

$%@# your data!!!!


Blah blah blah.

Lol. I use an S7 Edge on Verizon and the data matches perfectly.

Dropped frames. Super Lag. Slow browser. Middling battery life.

But, I still use it because the hardware is superior in many respects (Camera, mostly and especially front camera) that another phone is not even an option. Tried an HTC 10 and it had just as many usability issues and inferior camera. Oh, but that 3000 mAH HTC 10 had better battery life than my 3600 S7 Edge.

Just goes to show Samsung's software is still not worth crap.

Here's hoping iPhone 7 has a much wider front camera and improved rear camera. Can't wait for something better than the S7 Edge as a whole package. If not, guess I'm getting an S8.
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What problem, I have none of the two main issues you state?
[doublepost=1467916237][/doublepost]As soon as I read that he didn't rate the camera higher than the 6s, jeez. Every single other reviewer on the Web says it's the best camera phone you can buy. Are they all wrong, or is he just a biased apple employee now?

Nah you're wrong. The HTC 10 had a DXO score = to that of the S7 Edge. And It was PURE crap.

Owned em ALL, and while the S7 Edge has more pleasing results and wider FoV, it is not "better" than the 6S Plus. It renders punchier.

6S Rear stabilization is the best as well for video.
 
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jamezr

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Blah blah blah.

Lol. I use an S7 Edge on Verizon and the data matches perfectly.

Dropped frames. Super Lag. Slow browser. Middling battery life.

But, I still use it because the hardware is superior in many respects (Camera, mostly and especially front camera) that another phone is not even an option. Tried an HTC 10 and it had just as many usability issues and inferior camera. Oh, but that 3000 mAH HTC 10 had better battery life than my 3600 S7 Edge.

Just goes to show Samsung's software is still not worth crap.

Here's hoping iPhone 7 has a much wider front camera and improved rear camera. Can't wait for something better than the S7 Edge as a whole package. If not, guess I'm getting an S8.
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Nah you're wrong. The HTC 10 had a DXO score = to that of the S7 Edge. And It was PURE crap.

Owned em ALL, and while the S7 Edge has more pleasing results and wider FoV, it is not "better" than the 6S Plus. It renders punchier.

6S Rear stabilization is the best as well for video.
blah blah blah yada yada yada....

I have both the S7 edge and 6s+.
My 6s+ wins on battery life
My S7e wins on display and camera..waterproofing...wireless charging...expandable storage.
I have zero lag on my S7e
 
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Jinzen

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blah blah blah yada yada yada....

I have both the S7 edge and 6s+.
My 6s+ wins on battery life
My S7e wins on display and camera..waterproofing...wireless charging...expandable storage.
I have zero lag on my S7e

You just have low expectations for performance. Watch some YouTube videos of snapdragon (BTW trash compared to exynos nowadays) s7 and see it lagging all day long everywhere in the interface and apps.
 
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jamezr

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You just have low expectations for performance. Watch some YouTube videos of snapdragon (BTW trash compared to exynos nowadays) s7 and see it lagging all day long everywhere in the interface and apps.
i think you have an agenda too :) I have no doubt there is a YT video that shows someone out there having a problem with a S7e no doubt at all. I'll bet you can find videos of people having problems with a 6s= too. I'll bet you can find a YT video of people having a problem with ANY phone. I agree the Exynos is a top performer!

But I don't have lag on my S7e as I and others have stated we haven't had that issue.
 

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i think you have an agenda too :) I have no doubt there is a YT video that shows someone out there having a problem with a S7e no doubt at all. I'll bet you can find videos of people having problems with a 6s= too. I'll bet you can find a YT video of people having a problem with ANY phone. I agree the Exynos is a top performer!

But I don't have lag on my S7e as I and others have stated we haven't had that issue.

My agenda is to dispel the Samsung fan boys myth that the s7 edge is a top performers (it's trash, especially the snapdragon) and battery life is middling.

Real life S7 edge user here. Doesn't mean I'm pleased at Samsung's trash performance and software. End of the day it produces the best videos selfies vacation pics so there's no options. Sad the HTC 10 has a crap camera that can't meter or expose or focus for its life.

#holding out for IPhone 7 and hoping S8 isnt another hyped up mess.
 
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My agenda is to dispel the Samsung fan boys myth that the s7 edge is a top performers (it's trash, especially the snapdragon) and battery life is middling.

Real life S7 edge user here. Doesn't mean I'm pleased at Samsung's trash performance and software. End of the day it produces the best videos selfies vacation pics so there's no options. Sad the HTC 10 has a crap camera that can't meter or expose or focus for its life.

#holding out for IPhone 7 and hoping S8 isnt another hyped up mess.
LOL...thanks for confirming your agenda. We can all give you the attention your opinions deserve :)
 
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Jaimie Rivera - Okay but I hate his videos about going from iPhone to HTC One M8 then back to iPhone 6. If I wanted to know about platform hoppers, I might as well go on this thread since there endless posts but trying Android then going back to iPhone. PocketNow hasn't been the same without Brandon and Michael.

C4ETech - Ash's reviews were not that polished at first, but he is the only Indian reviewer I can understand. Since we have Xiaomi, Oppo, Asus, Lenovo, Huawei, and other Asian brands here, I generally might check his reviews since the American reviewers aren't likely reviewing them.

The worst reviews come from PhoneArena. They are as biased to Apple and Samsung as CNET was biased to Sony over ten years ago. I never forgive them giving the Xperia ZR a 6.5/10. The guy who reviewed iPhone SE was a joke. Couldn't understand him. Worse than David Pierce. At least David can try to sound objective but we all know he thinks iPhone is the best out there and made two videos on The Verge professing his love for them. The PA reviewer for the SE tried to sound witty but wasn't. Sounded French. Didn't pay attention and deleted it soon after. Former PA, John V, is now on AA to show his awful reviewing skills.

I don't mind when review sites love iPhone. I don't care if that is their choice. But review the damn phone. There is no need to compare platforms or with iPhone. Then we had this whole narrative script about complaints about BUILD QUALITY. Then Samsung listened but omitted removable battery, sd slot, and water resist for the S6. I get people love Apple's design philosophy but it isn't always the right trend to start for everyone looking more function over form.

The irony here is Anandtech talk and test thoroughly like they are Android users. They are good with the technical details. But most iOS users only need the knowledge from reviewers on Amazon, PhoneScoop, Walmart, Best Buy, Apple, Target, MobileTechReview, PhoneArena, or whatever soccer mom to give the gist of it all in layman terms.

How can you whine about bias when your last line all but pulls the curtain back on your own fanboyism? Soccer mom comments in 2016? You can't even come up with anything new to use as a put down...or what you think is a put down.

And it wasn't review sites that forced Samsung to change its design philosophy. That's nuts. The market did that. Tech sites have zero effect on what OEM's do. These sites appeal to the nichiest group possible that represents barely any of the buying public.

I use an iPhone 6s Plus and Sammy GS7E virtually daily. Wanna know why lots of tech reviewers have "bias" towards Apple? Because Android as a platform, while extraordinarily capable, is still plagued by a number of problems. Poor optimization of software/hardware, fragmentation (before you babble about fragmentation being choice, why can't I have the clearly superior exynos version of the S7 Edge here in the States? In fact why are there TWO VERSIONS anyway?), lag, battery drains, etc, etc. not to mention iOS has become so robust in the last few years that is very little difference in the platforms. oh hey- but Android phones have soooo much better specs! Like the OnePlus 3 and its 6gb of RAM that can't hold more than a few apps in memory without refreshing! Please.

Sorry, but when you're reading these reviews I don't think the bias is on the other side of the screen.
 

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My agenda is to dispel the Samsung fan boys myth that the s7 edge is a top performers (it's trash, especially the snapdragon) and battery life is middling.

Real life S7 edge user here. Doesn't mean I'm pleased at Samsung's trash performance and software. End of the day it produces the best videos selfies vacation pics so there's no options. Sad the HTC 10 has a crap camera that can't meter or expose or focus for its life.

#holding out for IPhone 7 and hoping S8 isnt another hyped up mess.

Battery life is one of the best I've ever experienced on any Android device. And I'm pretty sure most users will agree.

Performance is flawless for me.

My ONLY gripe with the S7 edge is Samsung needs to improve audio sound on both the headphones and speaker. Speaker is loud enough for me, but is nothing but treble, headphones is a tad bit too low, and the equalizer completely sucks.

Other than that, the S7 edge definitely lives up to it's hype.
 
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