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And now Parallels has spoken up about Win 11 support on Macs!

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  • Windows 11 was recently announced by Microsoft.
  • It looks like Mac users will also be able to get in on the action.
  • Parallels has confirmed it is beginning work on Windows 11 compatibility and will do "everything that's possible" to bring Windows 11 to macOS.
  • "With devices like the M1 MacBook Pro now fully able to support Parallels, the company is looking ahead to the next installment of Windows."
  • Parallels' current version for macOS, Parallels Desktop 16 is optimized for macOS Big Sur, and the company has publicly stated that it is testing Parallels on the macOS Monterey Beta "to ensure full compatibility as soon as it is released."
www.imore.com

Windows 11 for Mac in the works, Parallels confirms

Parallels has confirmed that its engineers are preparing to dive into the Windows 11 Insider Preview build in order to deliver full compatibility with future versions of Parallels for users on macOS.
www.imore.com www.imore.com
 
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Just curious, does Parallels have a good relationship with Microsoft and Apple?

Meaning, does Microsoft want Windows to be emulated on the Mac via Parallels? Would Microsoft help Parallels engineers? Would Apple help Parallels engineers?

Or is Parallels going at this alone?

I'm just wondering how Parallels employees can sleep at night not knowing if/when their entire product could be rendered completely useless on a whim.
 
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This actually means that Windows 10 is soon to be history for M1 Parallels users, no?

Since M1 users can only utilize insiders builds of Win 10 on Arm - at one moment, they will all be forced to updated to Win 11.

Unless Parallels gets some more firm committment from Microsoft - buying M1 Parallels (80 USD) for the sake of having temporary Windows install will be like paying to test the new software...

Kudos to the team capabilities - Parallels runs great - but without Windows licensing, sales forecast will stay... forecast...
 
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Leon1das said:
This actually means that Windows 10 is soon to be history for M1 Parallels users, no?
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Windows 11 is in the same boat -- you can run it via the insider program, but you can't buy it yet. It's going to take Microsoft to change that, not parallels. We'll see. Parallels has said they will make it compatible, that's all.
 
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Both my M1 Macs running Windows 10 Parallels VMs updated themselves to Windows 11 on Monday.
I have rolled one back to Windows 10 and will keep it there, by taking it off the Insider Dev channel.
 
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Fawkesguyy said:
There's now an option to enable TPM in Parallels? I can't locate it.
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Apparently Microsoft silently either removed or temporarily disabled the TPM requirement because of how much confusion there was regarding the requirements for W11. Microsoft also pulled their readiness tool in the process. I have a Windows-based machine that I installed Windows 11 on, and despite the readiness tool stating my machine was fully compatible with the new OS, the built-in tool in Windows 11 claims otherwise. This leads me to think that not even Microsoft knows what will or will not qualify to run the new OS.
 
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dmccloud said:
Apparently Microsoft silently either removed or temporarily disabled the TPM requirement because of how much confusion there was regarding the requirements for W11. Microsoft also pulled their readiness tool in the process. I have a Windows-based machine that I installed Windows 11 on, and despite the readiness tool stating my machine was fully compatible with the new OS, the built-in tool in Windows 11 claims otherwise. This leads me to think that not even Microsoft knows what will or will not qualify to run the new OS.
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Hmmm, ok. I see Win11 as an available update, but when I go to install it, it fails with the following error:

"This PC can't run Windows 11. The PC must support TPM 2.0"

Edit: I see it was being discussed on a Parallels forum as recently as this morning:
forum.parallels.com

Windows 10 ARM on M1 Mac not showing TPM

I've filed this feedback in the Technical Preview before, but the TPM does not show up to Windows on an M1 Mac: [ATTACH]
forum.parallels.com forum.parallels.com
 
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I got there by upgrading a previous Insider Preview of 10. Microsoft is currently not requiring TPM for VMs, which really does not make sense anyway. Not sure why you would want to stay on 10, since 11 gets improved X86 emulation and hybrid apps w. emulated plugins.
 
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Fawkesguyy said:
There's now an option to enable TPM in Parallels? I can't locate it.
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I didn't need to. As other posts there is all kinds of confusion about TPM and situation changing. For some people Windows 11 goes through after a repeat attempt.
Even after it has updated to Windows 11 it still reports this PC is not compatible.

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Assume you are following various threads on the Parallels Silicon forum. Some posts imply Microsoft has closed the Dev Channel to new joiners. This is consistent with the fact that after I left the Dev Channel on the Mac I rolled back to Windows 10, I could not rejoin the Dev Channel on that Mac.

This seems to be the main thread about Windows 11
 
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Good synopsis! I wasn't aware of the dev channel being closed for Win 10, that's a problem if you cannot install Win11! I wonder what the difference is between those that can, and cannot. There's got to be*something*.
 
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dmccloud said:
Apparently Microsoft silently either removed or temporarily disabled the TPM requirement because of how much confusion there was regarding the requirements for W11. Microsoft also pulled their readiness tool in the process. I have a Windows-based machine that I installed Windows 11 on, and despite the readiness tool stating my machine was fully compatible with the new OS, the built-in tool in Windows 11 claims otherwise. This leads me to think that not even Microsoft knows what will or will not qualify to run the new OS.
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They have pulled the requirement from the Insider Preview, ostensibly to get more feedback on how it performs on older CPUs. My guess is that they may reassess the TPM 2.0 requirement.
 
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I wonder what the difference is between those that can, and cannot. There's got to be*something*.
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Yeah, it's strange. To be honest, I'm not invested enough to try any of the workarounds suggested in some of the Parallels forum threads. I just find it interesting that some people just hit "update" and it updates, but I get the TPM requirement error. *shrugs*
 
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Mike Boreham said:
Don't take this as fact. I just noted it said on the Parallels thread and that I couldn't rejoin on my Windows 10 VM. Can't see any other info.
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I was able to switch my Insider status from Beta back to Developer on Monday and install Windows 11 immediately on that machine. But that was on a Windows machine rather than a VM. Another trick is to download the Windows 11 ISO directly from the Insider website and install it that way...
 
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blogs.windows.com

Announcing ARM64EC: Building Native and Interoperable Apps for Windows 11 on ARM

Today, we’re announcing ARM64EC (“Emulation Compatible”), a new way to build apps for Windows 11 on ARM. With the latest Visual Studio tools in preview and the Windows 11 Insider SDK, you'll be able to take advantage of ARM64EC to incrementally
blogs.windows.com blogs.windows.com

I really think Apple should focus on Boot camp again because Windows 11 will provide both 64bit x86 emulation and ARM64EC which allow you to use x86 software on ARM computer with less performance and compatibility issue.
 
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Fawkesguyy said:
Yeah, it's strange. To be honest, I'm not invested enough to try any of the workarounds suggested in some of the Parallels forum threads. I just find it interesting that some people just hit "update" and it updates, but I get the TPM requirement error. *shrugs*
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I didn’t need to try any of the workarounds involving DLLs, but I did have to reboot the virtual machine to get the update to work.
 
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