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Michael Goff

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Because after two years and with a new version (4-5), I expect something new. Most Android fans feel the same way. It's keeps people interested.

:|

So you'd rather them bring out a new, likely buggy, UI just because you get bored of things actually working?
 

blackhand1001

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:|

So you'd rather them bring out a new, likely buggy, UI just because you get bored of things actually working?
Android 4 ice cream sandwich proved that you can literally overhaul the entire interface and have it as stable as the previous version if not more stable.

I do hope that Google keeps the holo UI as its pretty much perfect. Just needs a few tweaks. Hopefully they revert the 4.2 camera app. The 4.1.2 version was much better
 

strausd

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Not sure why it matters to you or why it is funny? I have been running 4.2.2 for a while now, because I have a developer community and the option to root.

Additionally, they lump every Android phone into this pie chart statistic, when what should be viewed (for comparison to Apple) are flagship phones. How many S3's, HTC Ones, Note 2's, etc are running Gingerbread, ICS and Jelly Bean? Look at those stats if you actually want to compare to Apple. You will see a very similar pie chart as Apples when only the high end Android and Google phones are broken down. Instead every single one of those billion handsets running Android are added.
Or Maybe we should include every iPhone, iPad, iPod ever made into the Apple pie chart? All of a sudden, things wont look so pretty. All those 3G's and 3GS's and ipad2's/ipods would make your pie chart look a lot more like Androids. But only the iphone 4 and above are included. I mean, iOS 6 has been out for over 6 months and all those iphones aren't on it? Sad, right?

Why would you only compare flagship phones? That sounds dumb.

Not sure why you got all defensive and upset. Sounds like for whatever reason you assumed I was anti-Android. You know what happens when you assume... :D
 
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Assault

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Who does that? Especially from a phone? Maybe like 1% of phone users LOL

And you can't run iTunes on Android, I can't watch movies download from my Apple TV on an Android, i cant use imessage on an Android, I can't connect an Android phone to my car and have all my music come up on my head unit.....seems pretty restrictive to me. All depends on what you do with your phone. The things I listed above, most people do every day. Your ridiculous example of attaching every file known to man in one email is a giant stretch no one will ever do..

Again, you fail on subjects you know nothing about. Android phones and tablets can access and use data stored in iTunes.

But I d2cided to expand my home NAS to be OS agnostic, so any device can use my library. I use iFlicks to install all the proper metadata and convert my TV shows and Movies for my NAS, making every file accessible to any device can easily access my library via my network.

And just because your cars head unit is limited, doesnt mean everyone's is. I for example have a head unit that can use any phone with bt capability. But, that is the difference between cars, not some imaginary restriction. Additionally, you have an option to upgrade your head unit to something more modern.

And I will never understand why you believe iMessage is some magical Apple invention, that makes texting a euphoric experience. It is a stolen product from Blackberry and not even as good as BBM. I would be embarrased to have it on Android. But like iMaps and Notification Center, it's just another cheap Apple knock-off.

Why would you only compare flagship phones? That sounds dumb.

Not sure why you got all defensive and upset. Sounds like for whatever reason you assumed I was anti-Android. You know what happens when you assume... :D

Why would you assume I was defensive, or upset, or calling you anti-android or assaulting you, in my post? I suggest you reread my post. There is nothing negative said about you or anyone. I simply compared stats. Unless, you meant to quote someone else?
 
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Michael Goff

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Android 4 ice cream sandwich proved that you can literally overhaul the entire interface and have it as stable as the previous version if not more stable.

I do hope that Google keeps the holo UI as its pretty much perfect. Just needs a few tweaks. Hopefully they revert the 4.2 camera app. The 4.1.2 version was much better

Except that Android 4 had about a year to become stable as it was essentially a modified Honeycomb. This wouldn't have such benefits.

I don't understand. What makes you think a new UI would be buggy?

Remember Honeycomb, when they brought forth big sweeping UI changes? It was buggy.

Remember that Firefox is trying out a new UI? It's buggy.

New UI generally means they haven't had years and years to test it out. That means it will have bugs.
 

daneoni

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Because all software coming out of Apple these days is buggy. iOS6 has been particularly troublesome for both enterprise and consumers.

Source? personal anecdotes on a forum doesn't count either.
 

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Except that Android 4 had about a year to become stable as it was essentially a modified Honeycomb. This wouldn't have such benefits.



Remember Honeycomb, when they brought forth big sweeping UI changes? It was buggy.

Remember that Firefox is trying out a new UI? It's buggy.

New UI generally means they haven't had years and years to test it out. That means it will have bugs.
Are you saying they should simply keep the Holo theme? If Google does indeed release another iteration of Jelly Bean, it's likely that they're doing so to buy extra time to refine 5.0 Key Lime Pie.

I don't expect them to release a new UI now. I expect it in KLP, not in 4.3 or any other 4.x release they have planned. It wouldn't make sense to release a completely new version of Android and keep the same interface. It may works for operating systems like Windows Phone and iOS but for Android, it just doesn't.
 

Michael Goff

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Are you saying they should simply keep the Holo theme? If Google does indeed release another iteration of Jelly Bean, it's likely that they're doing so to buy extra time to refine 5.0 Key Lime Pie.

I don't expect them to release a new UI now. I expect it in KLP, not in 4.3 or any other 4.x release they have planned. It wouldn't make sense to release a completely new version of Android and keep the same interface. It may works for operating systems like Windows Phone and iOS but for Android, it just doesn't.

I'm saying I'd rather want them to refine the Holo UI than throw something new for the sake of throwing something new. There are changes that can be made without everything being new.

Besides, there's only so much you can DO with an interface.
 

cynics

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Except that Android 4 had about a year to become stable as it was essentially a modified Honeycomb. This wouldn't have such benefits.



Remember Honeycomb, when they brought forth big sweeping UI changes? It was buggy.

Remember that Firefox is trying out a new UI? It's buggy.

New UI generally means they haven't had years and years to test it out. That means it will have bugs.

I didn't find Honeycomb to be buggy at all. There were some issues adjusting to a tablet format but HC was basically the test bed for Ice cream sandwich. I only ever used Honeycomb in its vanilla form on a Motorola Xoom, I don't know if skinned versions were buggy or not.
 

mattopotamus

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yeah, totally disappointed:mad:. had been reading key lime pie rumored features for about an year.

I agree it is disappointing, but small differences could make a big difference. Even 4.2.1 to 4.2.2 was big for people on the nexus in terms of battery life.
 

Michael Goff

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I didn't find Honeycomb to be buggy at all. There were some issues adjusting to a tablet format but HC was basically the test bed for Ice cream sandwich. I only ever used Honeycomb in its vanilla form on a Motorola Xoom, I don't know if skinned versions were buggy or not.

At what point did you get the Xoom? Because 3.1 and 3.2 did a lot to fix what started off as meh in 3.0.

yeah, totally disappointed:mad:. had been reading key lime pie rumored features for about an year.

I know!

4.3 makes it seem like... well, nothing important. :|
 

Michael Goff

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Seriously? You haven't even heard of any new features and you are disappointed already. Good grief.

Is it my fault that Google is more tight-lipped than Apple when it comes to Android? If they gave some clues, maybe I wouldn't be disappointed. But so far? NOTHING.
 

Tig Bitties

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I guess the only thing I am looking forward to in 4.3, is this supposed "Google Babel" all in one Messaging service, sort of like iMessage or BB Messenger. Not sure what else 4.3 will add ?

The big features, and major revamp of the Android OS will be in 5.0 Key Lime Pie, now rumored to be delayed until Fall, and launching on the brand new Nexus-Five phone in October or so.
 

cynics

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Then you got lucky, I had quite a few times when the UI would just lag. I had the settings menu crash a couple of times.

I actually found Honeycomb app performance more stable then Ice Cream Sandwich. I never really had an issue with the OS itself crashing.

Check this out....

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Michael Goff

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oh boy. Because you don't know anything, you are disappointed. I see your logic. :eek:

No, because I have no info I can only go by previous point releases. Point releases have never been "knock your socks off" in terms of what they provide.

Or I can assume they're changing it up based on not a single piece of information.
 
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