General Android, just wow.

[hyteckit]

Same games on the iOS side. What works.

NBA Jam, iOS 3.2 and up
iPad 1 - YES
iPad Mini - YES
iPhone 4S - YES

MADDEN NFL 12, iOS 3.2 and up
iPad 1 - YES
iPad Mini - YES
iPhone 4S - YES

FIFA 12, iOS 3.2 and up
iPad 1 - YES
iPad Mini - YES
iPhone 4S - YES

Plants vs. Zombies, iOS 4.3 and up
iPad 1 - YES
iPad Mini - YES
iPhone 4S - YES

TETRIS, iOS 3.1 and up
iPad 1 - YES
iPad Mini - YES
iPhone 4S - YES


Worms, iOS 3.1.3 and up
iPad 1 - YES
iPad Mini - YES
iPhone 4S - YES

Need for Speed™ Hot Pursuit, iOS 3.1 and up
iPad 1 - YES
iPad Mini - YES
iPhone 4S - YES


Tiger Woods PGA TOUR® 12, iOS 4.3 and up
iPad 1 - YES
iPad Mini - YES
iPhone 4S - YES


Asphalt 6: Adrenaline, iOS 3.1.3 and up
iPad 1 - YES
iPad Mini - YES
iPhone 4S - YES

N.O.V.A. 2, iOS 3.1.3 and up
iPad 1 - YES
iPad Mini - YES
iPhone 4S - YES

 

[arashb]

What is unreliable and doesn't works to not depend on it?

Since I have my Galaxy S2 and now S3, both these phones can go on for months (yes you heard it right) without crashing, self-reboot or slowdown.

I would say Android is as dependable as iOS now (since ICS). Just let the old wife's tale (that Android is very unstable) remains at that.

Things do work, I've had a few times where my app menu blacks out and I have to scroll just to get out of it. But other than that for the most part they work.

But when I have to hack the tablet just to get the "Tablet UI", it makes me feel like I have to someone else's unnecessary sloppiness to Google's code.

Or the fact that the Nexus faces a problem with the screen popping out, like I said before this isn't Google's problem but it could happen to any phone/tablet out there, but it could never happen to an Apple product. Glass + aluminum = sex. Glass + plastic = a Saturn Ion -.-

It's just not polished as much as iOS and developers don't take it as seriously, widgets are cool and all but Facebook's widget only works half the time. If widgets were enabled on iOS, Facebook would probably have had this bug fixed before it was released.

In regards to Android, it's not optimized at all... that's why I have to used a custom rom to get the most that I can out of my tablet. And I find it very strange that Google doesn't optimize the simple things like Google Play banners for the tablet. Also, for being a "Tablet UI" the menu settings labels don't even fit without using ellipsis.

Android hasn't exactly failed me yet, but I don't have that sense of security like I do when I'm on iOS which is why if I have a chance of being stuck somewhere, I'd rather have an iOS phone than an Android phone.

 

[hyteckit]

So you're admitting that there is fragmentation also in iOS devices? Will you bash them like you're constantly doing in this subforum?

Not fragmentation.

Outdated hardware or unsupported software that the developer abandon.

iOS games/apps says iOS 3.2 and up.

Android games/apps says pray that it works.

The Android app/game might run on gingerbread device or maybe not.
The Android app/game might run on ICS device or maybe not.

 

[Oletros]

Not fragmentation.

Outdated hardware or unsupported software that the developer abandon.

Because you're joking, don't you? You can't say such things with an straight face

ups, I remember your "Android is not open source", I won't waste the time with such obvious trolling.

 

[hyteckit]

Because you're joking, don't you? You can't say such things with an straight face

ups, I remember your "Android is not open source", I won't waste the time with such obvious trolling.

Spoken like a clueless fandroid.

Don't know the difference between "openness" and "open source".

 

[Oletros]

Don't know the difference between "openness" and "open source".

The one that clearly doesn't know nothing about open sourve is you

My God, you even don't know the difference between opern development and open source.

And in the other thread we are still waiting your arguments about not being open source.

 

[arashb]

Like what the hell is up with this banner?
http://db.tt/PjPGq8jy

I'd rather there be no banner at all than this crap. Sure it doesn't deal with functionality but makes me think what else they may have "forgotten" to deal with since Android has such a huge range of phones and tablets to deal with.

Like I said before, I like using the Nexus 7 more than my old iPad. It's more like a computer than the iPad ever was or could be. But I'd never consider trading my iPhone for an Android.

 

[hyteckit]

The one that clearly doesn't know nothing about open sourve is you

My God, you even don't know the difference between opern development and open source.

And in the other thread we are still waiting your arguments about not being open source.

The discussing was about openness, not open source. So stop being silly.

A carrier lock android device is not open, no matter how much you think it is just because it's android.

That's why there is so much fragmentation because you are locked in to what the carriers and handset makers allow.

You see the pie graph from another poster?

Funny how my android phone running gingerbread and my tablet running ICS belongs to the 1st and 2nd bigger percentage of the pie, yet unable to run so many apps/games.

 

[SlCKB0Y]

The discussing was about openness, not open source. So stop being silly.

A carrier lock android device is not open, no matter how much you think it is just because it's android.

NO. You flat out claimed that Android was not open source. You never qualified that with "some phones have locked bootloaders", or "carriers take their time updating handsets".

You straight up claimed that Android was not open source. You went into arguments claiming that because the source code for Android 4.2 was not available prior to it's release that this supported your claim.

Oletros was pointing out that you couldn't understand the difference between open development and open source. Something can still be open source whilst not having an open or collaborative development model.

Guess what, Google has now released Android 4.2, and it has also now released the source code to AOSP.

You were making completely baseless claims, we called you on your rubbish and asked you to back them up, and you ran away.

 

[hyteckit]

NO. You flat out claimed that Android was not open source. You never qualified that with "some phones have locked bootloaders", or "carriers take their time updating handsets".

Read my original post. It was about openness, not open source:

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/16264713/

Here's the summary of what I wrote:

It's "open" to carriers and handset makers. However, it's really "closed" to consumers. You can't just take the latest Android OS and install it on your Android phone without some sort of hack.

You are stuck in the close system of your handset maker and carrier.

You straight up claimed that Android was not open source. You went into arguments claiming that because the source code for Android 4.2 was not available prior to it's release that this supported your claim.

Oletros was pointing out that you couldn't understand the difference between open development and open source. Something can still be open source whilst not having an open or collaborative development model.

Guess what, Google has now released Android 4.2, and it has also now released the source code to AOSP.

You were making completely baseless claims, we called you on your rubbish and asked you to back them up, and you ran away.

The discussion was about openness. I mention the availability of Android 4.2 source code as an example of the lack of openness. Keeping the source code close to chest and not making it available to public shows the lack of openness. It wasn't available until yesterday.

You can't claim Android 4.2 is open source until Android 4.2 is open sourced.

It was only made available yesterday as open source.

So don't be silly.

 

[cynics]

Read my original post. It was about openness, not open source:

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/16264713/

Here's the summary of what I wrote:

It's "open" to carriers and handset makers. However, it's really "closed" to consumers. You can't just take the latest Android OS and install it on your Android phone without some sort of hack.

You are stuck in the close system of your handset maker and carrier.


The discussion was about openness. I mention the availability of Android 4.2 source code as an example of the lack of openness. Keeping the source code close to chest and not making it available to public shows the lack of openness. It wasn't available until yesterday.

You can't claim Android 4.2 is open source until Android 4.2 is open sourced.

It was only made available yesterday as open source.

So don't be silly.

Uhh, the source code was released before Google shipped it in a product. How much more open do you want?

It went online before Google pushed it to the N7 and at the same time you were able to install it yourself to the N7.

I think you are being silly thinking else wise. The software has to be completed before they can make it open source now doesn't it?

 

[Jinzen]

Yap, because ALL of the games in the Apple App store runs in every iOS device and in every iOS version, really?


By the way, the source code for 4.2 is in the repository

Hahha! I love the people wasting their time trolling Android on Macrumors.

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So, you've never really used them.

Um, no. A live icon in iOS can, at best, tell you temperature and a very rough view of the current weather. The Android weather widgets show you a ton of info at a glance with no more effort than a swipe, if that. However, it's good to see you supporting live icons, which are, of course, widgets.

So, clearly, you don't care to check your mail. Seeing it in a swipe is vastly easier that opening the Mail app and navigating to the Inbox messages, then closing it back up to go to see something else. Some of us have more in our lives, it seems.

Being able to check almost anything I want in a few swipes is a time saver. There is no good argument against it. There is no way opening multiple apps and switching betweent them is more time efficient.

LOL! Yes you do, Mr. Demi-God you. So much going on you defend Android on a Mac forum.

Oh, when I did use my Nexus 7, Galaxy S3, Droid Razr M, Galaxy Nexus, Droid Razr, and OG Droid, I'm *pretty* sure I never trolled Mac forums while I was at it.

I also found that MANY, like me, preferred leaving their home screens like stock ICS and with NO Widgets.

Because the ones you mentioned are completely useless and take up desktop space. Mail App? You see 4 emails and then you have to go into the Mail App anyway. Same thing with Calendar. Same thing with Weather. Have YOU ever found your widgets replaced going into the App itself?

Useful widgets? LED light. Radio toggles. Music player. These are the few things that are actually useful to have as a widget on the home screen.

/Getting a Droid DNA to play with but Apple stuff is still >>> most other Crap.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Nothing close to the mess on Android side.

Not even close.


I have an android tablet and android phone. Tablet running ICS and phone running gingerbread. What works and what doesn't.

Just some game examples.


NBA Jam
tablet - YES
phone - NO

MADDEN NFL 12
tablet - NO
phone - YES

FIFA 12
tablet - YES
phone - NO

Plants vs. Zombies
tablet - NO
phone - YES


TETRIS
tablet - NO
phone - NO


Worms
tablet - NO
phone - YES

Need for Speed™ Hot Pursuit
tablet - NO
phone - NO

Tiger Woods PGA TOUR® 12
tablet - YES
phone - NO

Asphalt 6: Adrenaline
tablet - NO
phone - NO

N.O.V.A. 2
tablet - NO
phone - NO

What Android tablet and phone do you have, or are referring to?

Same games on the iOS side. What works.

NBA Jam, iOS 3.2 and up
iPad 1 - YES
iPad Mini - YES
iPhone 4S - YES

MADDEN NFL 12, iOS 3.2 and up
iPad 1 - YES
iPad Mini - YES
iPhone 4S - YES

FIFA 12, iOS 3.2 and up
iPad 1 - YES
iPad Mini - YES
iPhone 4S - YES

Plants vs. Zombies, iOS 4.3 and up
iPad 1 - YES
iPad Mini - YES
iPhone 4S - YES

TETRIS, iOS 3.1 and up
iPad 1 - YES
iPad Mini - YES
iPhone 4S - YES


Worms, iOS 3.1.3 and up
iPad 1 - YES
iPad Mini - YES
iPhone 4S - YES

Need for Speed™ Hot Pursuit, iOS 3.1 and up
iPad 1 - YES
iPad Mini - YES
iPhone 4S - YES


Tiger Woods PGA TOUR® 12, iOS 4.3 and up
iPad 1 - YES
iPad Mini - YES
iPhone 4S - YES


Asphalt 6: Adrenaline, iOS 3.1.3 and up
iPad 1 - YES
iPad Mini - YES
iPhone 4S - YES

N.O.V.A. 2, iOS 3.1.3 and up
iPad 1 - YES
iPad Mini - YES
iPhone 4S - YES

What about the 3GS, Since your comparing from Gingerbread days?

 

[cynics]

Hahha! I love the people wasting their time trolling Android on Macrumors.

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LOL! Yes you do, Mr. Demi-God you. So much going on you defend Android on a Mac forum.

Oh, when I did use my Nexus 7, Galaxy S3, Droid Razr M, Galaxy Nexus, Droid Razr, and OG Droid, I'm *pretty* sure I never trolled Mac forums while I was at it.

I also found that MANY, like me, preferred leaving their home screens like stock ICS and with NO Widgets.

Because the ones you mentioned are completely useless and take up desktop space. Mail App? You see 4 emails and then you have to go into the Mail App anyway. Same thing with Calendar. Same thing with Weather. Have YOU ever found your widgets replaced going into the App itself?

Useful widgets? LED light. Radio toggles. Music player. These are the few things that are actually useful to have as a widget on the home screen.

/Getting a Droid DNA to play with but Apple stuff is still >>> most other Crap.

Widgets aren't supposed to replace apps that's why the widget is part of the app. Mail widget = mail app, calendar widget = calendar app.

It just a quick view and quick access to a particular part of an app be it a specific email or specific day on the calendar.

Case closed because you find something that iOS can't do without JB not useful THEN call someone else the troll in the alternatives to iOS section? Ok lol

 

[onthecouchagain]

I'm not caught up on the thread but I assume it's become an Android vs. iOS "debate."


Here's my take:

You have an operating system, Android, that is basically filling in features that it's been missing that the competition may or may not have, whilst also adding new features that no one else is doing.

Versus...

An operating system that is also filling in features that it's been missing that the competition already does have, whilst not always necessarily adding brand new features each update.

And... one of them is doing what they're doing at a much faster rate (hint: Android).

If I was a betting man, I'd bet on Android. It's already regarded by many as the superior operating system. Even many dedicated iOS users are ready for more and are putting their hopes on Ive and his "overhaul" of iOS 7. Apple Maps was, more or less, a flop; this era's "Damn You iPhone Auto Correction," and they've still got a long way to go in providing users customization, quick information at a glance, and easier access to settings. I have no doubt these features will eventually come, but when and to what degree? We shall see.

 

[Stuntman06]

Spoken like someone who has never used widgets. Widgets are almost completely useless. A gigantic widget for weather - a live icon does that in iOS. Widgets for mail? LOL. Calendar widget? Yes, I need to have all my appointments constantly on my home screen.

Widgets in Android can display more information than a live icon in iOS. Widgets can also provide more functionality than live icons in iOS. Widgets come in many different shapes and sizes. Not everyone needs every single widget. I use the ones that I feel are useful to me like one that displays my appointments on my home screen. Not everyone needs it. It all depends on the individual.

 

[onthecouchagain]

I think widgets are a little overrated, but I do find them incredibly helpful nonetheless.

The best type of widgets, in my opinion, are the ones that let you toggle settings. Direct-dials and direct-texts are so awesome too. I have a home screen dedicated to my most frequented contacts. Easy-peasy.

 

[cynics]

I think widgets are a little overrated, but I do find them incredibly helpful nonetheless.

The best type of widgets, in my opinion, are the ones that let you toggle settings. Direct-dials and direct-texts are so awesome too. I have a home screen dedicated to my most frequented contacts. Easy-peasy.

I can agree. They are nice to have the option of using though. I like the time/weather combo widgets. The music player and podcast players are nice too.

 

[onthecouchagain]

I can agree. They are nice to have the option of using though. I like the time/weather combo widgets. The music player and podcast players are nice too.

100%.

I use the music player widget too, actually, now that I think of it. Ditto weather.

 

[ReanimationN]

Forget it.

 

[mib1800]

Things do work, I've had a few times where my app menu blacks out and I have to scroll just to get out of it. But other than that for the most part they work.

But when I have to hack the tablet just to get the "Tablet UI", it makes me feel like I have to someone else's unnecessary sloppiness to Google's code.

Or the fact that the Nexus faces a problem with the screen popping out, like I said before this isn't Google's problem but it could happen to any phone/tablet out there, but it could never happen to an Apple product. Glass + aluminum = sex. Glass + plastic = a Saturn Ion -.-

It's just not polished as much as iOS and developers don't take it as seriously, widgets are cool and all but Facebook's widget only works half the time. If widgets were enabled on iOS, Facebook would probably have had this bug fixed before it was released.

In regards to Android, it's not optimized at all... that's why I have to used a custom rom to get the most that I can out of my tablet. And I find it very strange that Google doesn't optimize the simple things like Google Play banners for the tablet. Also, for being a "Tablet UI" the menu settings labels don't even fit without using ellipsis.

I like Android handling of UI code better. Developers don't have to distinguish betw. tablet or phone (unlike iOS). And UI elements in Android scale up nicely unlike iOS (which is total crap when you run a phone app on tablet).

Android hasn't exactly failed me yet, but I don't have that sense of security like I do when I'm on iOS which is why if I have a chance of being stuck somewhere, I'd rather have an iOS phone than an Android phone.

I have the opposite view. In the event, there is no data connection iOS just get stuck. I encounter many iOS apps just dont start without data connection. No such issue with Android. Furthermore, iOS is so dependent on iCloud/itunes that you are basically dead in the water when these services are not available. It is so lockdown there is no way to get stuff in/out of phone.

To us who are free from Apple jail, it is such a relief that we will never get stuck like those who use iOS devices.

 

[matttye]

I'm not caught up on the thread but I assume it's become an Android vs. iOS "debate."


Here's my take:

You have an operating system, Android, that is basically filling in features that it's been missing that the competition may or may not have, whilst also adding new features that no one else is doing.

Versus...

An operating system that is also filling in features that it's been missing that the competition already does have, whilst not always necessarily adding brand new features each update.

And... one of them is doing what they're doing at a much faster rate (hint: Android).

If I was a betting man, I'd bet on Android. It's already regarded by many as the superior operating system. Even many dedicated iOS users are ready for more and are putting their hopes on Ive and his "overhaul" of iOS 7. Apple Maps was, more or less, a flop; this era's "Damn You iPhone Auto Correction," and they've still got a long way to go in providing users customization, quick information at a glance, and easier access to settings. I have no doubt these features will eventually come, but when and to what degree? We shall see.

Android has a plethora of features, many more than iOS, but iOS does what it does really well.

For example... my last two Android phones (Galaxy S3 & S2) were hit and miss with regards to automatically connecting to the bluetooth in my car. Sometimes worked, sometimes I'd have to connect manually and sometimes I'd have to restart the phone to get it to connect (the latter only being true with my S3). My i5, however, connects every time before I even open the door.

Little things like that make the user experience much better.

 

[hyteckit]

What Android tablet and phone do you have, or are referring to?

Acer iconia tablet and Samsung admire android phone.

What about the 3GS, Since your comparing from Gingerbread days?

You don't think it's a major issue when my ICS tablet can't running many games/apps?


iPhone 3GS still runs iOS 6, so I'm assuming all those games I've listed would work fine.

iPhone 3GS came out in June 2009.
Gingerbread came out in Dec 2010.

 

[hyteckit]

Here's my take:

If you don't care much about app/games and care more about customization/widgets, then get an Android device.

If you care about apps/games and prefer simplicity over customization/widgets, then get an iOS device.


customization/widgets: Android wins
apps/games: iOS wins

 

[mib1800]

Here's my take:

If you don't care much about app/games and care more about customization/widgets, then get an Android device.

If you care about apps/games and prefer simplicity over customization/widgets, then get an iOS device.


customization/widgets: Android wins
apps/games: iOS wins

How can iOS win in apps? Just go and compare mainstream apps that are available on both platforms. You will see that most likely the Android version has more functionality than iOS version. There are so many automation/productivity/system/UI apps that are available for Android that can never be found in iOS due to the fact that the limited/restrictive capability of iOS cannot support these kind of apps..