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epicrayban

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People familiar with both TouchWiz (S7 Edge or later) and Android Nougat, can you comment on what you feel is better?

I'm a TouchWiz fan for its features, but Nougat is introducing many of the same ones finally and a few extra goodies (like the "alt-tab" app switching with the quick double press of the app switcher button).

What's the feedback and general verdict between the two?
 

mclld

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Im sure a lot of the harcode phone enthusiasts would say the biggest feature is less junk, for example look at this chart
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hallux

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Im sure a lot of the harcode phone enthusiasts would say the biggest feature is less junk, for example look at this chart
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That's not a feature of Nougat, that's a benefit of the Nexus in general. The "junk" list for the Note 7 will be just as long on Nougat as is displayed for Marshmallow.
 

mclld

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Yeah I am talking about Nexus in general, that is pretty much the only way to get the real version without skins and other stuff
 
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tbayrgs

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People familiar with both TouchWiz (S7 Edge or later) and Android Nougat, can you comment on what you feel is better?

I'm a TouchWiz fan for its features, but Nougat is introducing many of the same ones finally and a few extra goodies (like the "alt-tab" app switching with the quick double press of the app switcher button).

What's the feedback and general verdict between the two?

Here's a fairly comprehensive and spot on take on Nougat from the Verge (wierdly been saying that a lot on this sub forum lately ;))

Android 7.0 Nougat review: great, but does it matter?

I haven't used TouchWiz on the newest flagship for any significant time so I won't presume to offer an opinion on what's better in a direction comparison but rather my feelings about stock Nougat. I've clearly stated in the past that I prefer stock Android and Nougat has done nothing to change that opinion, yet.

The multi-tasking works well enough and should offer more options than what's found on Samsung since the available app choices hasn't grown considerable over the years. No pop-up window option though so if that's something you use, won't find it on Nougat. I personally find using multiple apps on such a small screen less than ideal, to put it diplomatically ;), but am glad to see it make Android tablets (or at least the Pixel C) far more useful. The double tap to switch apps is a great addition though.

I also prefer the quick setting tray and notification panel in stock and it's much improved in Nougat. I love the smaller size, how they stack and offer quick actions.

I like how you can now adjust display size (scaling, not resolution) and font size system wide.

I also agree with the Verge author's take on Google search, Google Now, and Now on Tap . They can be such a powerful but Google seems to be letting them languish on the vine, and I find Now on Tap a useless gimmick. I have my fingers crossed that we're going to see some major changes with the rollout of Google Assistant, and that's why Google search/Now hasn't improved.

Can't comment on whether Doze has improved noticeably as my 6P isn't my current daily driver.

Overall, seems solid but I'm going to wait until Google releases all the new features and functionality announced at I/O (Assistant, Allo/Duo, Google Home and Android Wear 3.0) before I dive back in fully to see if all of the changes could lure me back from iOS. Throw in a really well built 2-in-1 iPad Pro/Samsung TabPro S type Chromeback and I'd be seriously enticed.
 
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Im sure a lot of the harcode phone enthusiasts would say the biggest feature is less junk, for example look at this chart
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Well that pretty much says it all.

I was wondering why more weren't talking about Nougat here. It is such a great upgrade. But I guess when all that bloat is updated in 9 months and the carriers add theirs and approve it we'll get more discuss from the Samsung majority.
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Seems like this release is missing key features that have been expected for the final release. This almost feels Android 6.9. Certain things aren't in this release, like Allo, etc...

Also, is the first time a brand new big Android OS release comes out before the actual new Nexus devices ? I expected final 7.0 to come out with the new HTC phones.

That is because we will get 7.1 with all those features on the new Nexus.
 
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I think it is a great strategy. Get the base version out for OEMs to start cooking. Give it to someone like LG to release with it to get the hype moving. Then release a .1 version with the Nexus tailored with its specific features.
 
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GigabitEthernet

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Google has got to do something about this update problem. I know you can just buy a Nexus but we really should be aspiring to more in 2016.

I'm seriously considering switching back to iOS because I really am fed up with it now.
 

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Google has got to do something about this update problem. I know you can just buy a Nexus but we really should be aspiring to more in 2016.

I'm seriously considering switching back to iOS because I really am fed up with it now.

So Google should close the code source? That wouldn't be good for anyone honestly.
 

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Google has got to do something about this update problem. I know you can just buy a Nexus but we really should be aspiring to more in 2016.

I'm seriously considering switching back to iOS because I really am fed up with it now.

I agree it is a problem, but it's a large codebase and there are lots of OEMs and other moving parts to deal with. So while Google still has work to do regarding the problem, it's not like they wouldn't have done anything along the years. First they started moving most of the potentially vulnerable parts under Google Play Services where they can be updated without needing a proper system update on systems all the way down to 2.3. Then more recently they introduced the monthly security updates which OEMs have adopted with a varying success. Yes, it's still a work-in-progress, but at least progress is being constantly made. I'd prefer Android to have as seamless and smooth updates as iOS, but it won't happen overnight. Until that I vote with my wallet and skip manufacturers that don't play ball with e.g. the security updates.
 

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Seems like I skipped the queue :D Enrolled to the beta, got the update immediately and after the installation unenrolled, but as it was a stable release I was running, all my data remained intact.
So far mine is running well on my 6P, I'm very pleased. Not as many bugs as I thought it might have, overall it's very good.
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Google has got to do something about this update problem. I know you can just buy a Nexus but we really should be aspiring to more in 2016.

I'm seriously considering switching back to iOS because I really am fed up with it now.
iOS is the ideal platform for those lacking patience. Innovation isn't for everyone.
 
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Roadstar

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So far mine is running well on my 6P, I'm very pleased. Not as many bugs as I thought it might have, overall it's very good.

I'm happy with it, too. I can't say for sure, but it seems like my 5X feels snappier with Nougat compared to Marshmallow. Of course it's still not a top performer, but at least there's much less of the "oh I can't tolerate this sluggishness" problem when switching to the 5X from my iPhone 6s than before.
 

mi7chy

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Nougat is a release that's I'm actually looking forward to. Curious to see how Seamless Updates evolves and if it applies to system updates like ISSU on Juniper network equipment that eliminates the usual reboot required after a system update.
 
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