Andromeda vs iOS?

[spinedoc77]

Honestly can't believe some of the people here are even allowed to have kids

The reason the iPad is dumbed down is because desktop operating systems don't do touch well. I have a Windows tablet and Metro hasn't caught on nearly well enough to be used primarily. The desktop side is just a joke in terms of UI for touch input.

I agree also that some people should be restricted from having kids.

The reason the iPad is "dumbed down" (using your words) is because operating systems did not do touch well IN THE PAST, but certainly this is subjective and I'm just putting my opinion out there. Windows 10 has come a very long way and is quite touch friendly. Just the fact that you use the word "Metro" clues me in where you are in the windows timeline, that term is what 2-3 years old? Windows 10 has moved so far from those times.

But there are other reasons for iOS existence as well, initially at least. Battery life, size, weight, thinness. I will always be indebted to Apple for the revolution they made by introducing the ipad, I'd shoot myself if I was stuck with a windows tablet from 10 years ago. Big, heavy, thick, clunky, terrible OS for touch, poor battery life, etc. But times change, and now windows tablets are virtually neck and neck with ipads and the reason for a dumbed down OS isn't anywhere near as important. Let's also not forget that Apple would much rather you buy multiple devices from them, they want you to buy an ipad and a MacBook and combining the 2 would hurt their sales.

 

[Technarchy]

Honestly can't believe some of the people here are even allowed to have kids

The reason the iPad is dumbed down is because desktop operating systems don't do touch well. I have a Windows tablet and Metro hasn't caught on nearly well enough to be used primarily. The desktop side is just a joke in terms of UI for touch input.

I wouldn't say the iPad is dumbed down. On an enterprise level it is doing some phenomenal things, but is just as capable when you toss it to a 2 year old to learn ABC's.

It's a very flexible platform with the primary limitation being the imagination of the user/organization. Just because I use my iPad as a media consumption device doesn't mean job functions, sales, design and presentations aren't being done by someone else.

People just have a tendency to be myopic and confuse their personal experience with everyone else.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Honestly can't believe some of the people here are even allowed to have kids

I agree also that some people should be restricted from having kids.

I originally mentioned here that my 2yr old daughter uses an iPad so who are these comments aimed at? 'People here' please elaborate?

 

[spinedoc77]

I wouldn't say the iPad is dumbed down. On an enterprise level it is doing some phenomenal things, but is just as capable when you toss it to a 2 year old to learn ABC's.

It's a very flexible platform with the primary limitation being the imagination of the user/organization. Just because I use my iPad as a media consumption device doesn't mean job functions, sales, design and presentations aren't being done by someone else.

People just have a tendency to be myopic and confuse their personal experience with everyone else.

Hey if it works in your field then that's great. It just doesn't do enough for my personal and business needs. But the differences in use are to be expected. I think the entire misunderstanding was my preference for a windows tablet as a teaching tool for my daughter and my belief it is superior based on the ecosystem, the prevalence in today's work society where she will be someday, and the teaching programs/apps which are available. I also highly dislike the in app purchases which are endemic on the app store. Once again my opinion. One of the things I've never understood is that a windows tablet can be just as simple to use as an ipad, or it can be complex if you so desire. You can have the best of both worlds with little to no compromise, instead of having to compromise and possibly having the need for a companion laptop or desktop. If you can live off an ipad as your sole device in your life I am quite jealous.
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I originally mentioned here that my 2yr old daughter uses an iPad so who are these comments aimed at? 'People here' please ekaborate?

They were not directed at you. My god, relax a bit, don't take every single comment personally.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

They were not directed at you. My god, relax a bit, don't take every single comment personally.

Only 2 people have mentioned children here and you are the other one so you can't blame me for asking. In any case nobody here should be making judgements on parenting skills when the topic is so far removed in the first place.

Maybe tone in posts doesn't transfer well to windows tablets as I am far from needing to be relaxed. Chill out

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I wouldn't say the iPad is dumbed down. On an enterprise level it is doing some phenomenal things, but is just as capable when you toss it to a 2 year old to learn ABC's.

It's a very flexible platform with the primary limitation being the imagination of the user/organization. Just because I use my iPad as a media consumption device doesn't mean job functions, sales, design and presentations aren't being done by someone else.

People just have a tendency to be myopic and confuse their personal experience with everyone else.

The sales department where I work use iPads and it provides a great platform. The marketing and graphics departments use them too as an extension so I totally agree they are useful. It wouldn't work for what I need in the office though but then again there isn't a tablet on the market that has enough power for my work needs. I do enjoy an iPad for personal use though and it's used as a very basic browsing device.

My daughter is not quite ready for excel spreadsheets, SAP or word documents as she's only 2. An iPad offers a fun learning experience which is unrivalled at present imo.

 

[Technarchy]

The sales department where I work use iPads and it provides a great platform. The marketing and graphics departments use them too as an extension so I totally agree they are useful. It wouldn't work for what I need in the office though but then again there isn't a tablet on the market that has enough power for my work needs. I do enjoy an iPad for personal use though and it's used as a very basic browsing device.

My daughter is not quite ready for excel spreadsheets, SAP or word documents as she's only 2. An iPad offers a fun learning experience which is unrivalled at present imo.

My doctor's office relies heavily on iPads. I see them used as point of sale machines everywhere. If I come across an informational kiosk, it's probably running on an iPad.

And here I am using it to surf the internet and watch Mr. Robot when I am on the toilet.

That's the beauty of the iPad.

 

[Suckfest 9001]

I agree also that some people should be restricted from having kids.

The reason the iPad is "dumbed down" (using your words) is because operating systems did not do touch well IN THE PAST, but certainly this is subjective and I'm just putting my opinion out there. Windows 10 has come a very long way and is quite touch friendly. Just the fact that you use the word "Metro" clues me in where you are in the windows timeline, that term is what 2-3 years old? Windows 10 has moved so far from those times.

But there are other reasons for iOS existence as well, initially at least. Battery life, size, weight, thinness. I will always be indebted to Apple for the revolution they made by introducing the ipad, I'd shoot myself if I was stuck with a windows tablet from 10 years ago. Big, heavy, thick, clunky, terrible OS for touch, poor battery life, etc. But times change, and now windows tablets are virtually neck and neck with ipads and the reason for a dumbed down OS isn't anywhere near as important. Let's also not forget that Apple would much rather you buy multiple devices from them, they want you to buy an ipad and a MacBook and combining the 2 would hurt their sales.

"Metro" refers to the touch-friendly versions of applications. You knew exactly what I meant but it's probably more convenient to act confused.

Windows UI simply does not work with touch input. You want your daughter to be frustrated with the bad side of this industry, go for it.

 

[spinedoc77]

"Metro" refers to the touch-friendly versions of applications. You knew exactly what I meant but it's probably more convenient to act confused.

Windows UI simply does not work with touch input. You want your daughter to be frustrated with the bad side of this industry, go for it.

No I actually didn't act confused, I was truly confused. You see Microsoft stopped using "Metro" and changed it to "Modern" to label their UI/apps, I think as far back as 2012. They are continually changing it to things like "Universal" and "windows apps" and such. But the entire Metro paradigm is very different than what we have today. But even non-Metro/Modern/Universal legacy programs run well, some of the newer ones which have been updated at least. Windows office for example, works very well with touch as a legacy program. Lastly you always have the option of hooking up a mouse/keyboard and using it as a full desktop if you desire, or using the trackpad on the keyboard, etc. I never understood that limitation in iOS, even Android can do this.

Windows UI works VERY nicely with touch input, once again windows 10 has come a very very long way. I use it on my surface pro 4 and also have a 8" tablet where it works wonderfully. This is only our opinions but I wholeheartedly disagree. My daughter is not frustrated, far from it she loves it. She has an ipad mini as well, and it's her choice which one to use. She rarely uses the ipad mini.

 

[Michael Goff]

And the topic leaps from Andromeda v iOS to insecure parents in a single bound.

 

[Lloydbm41]

iOS has a very generic GUI with a restrictive set of rules (giving the impression of a dumbed down OS), but the code allows for some very amazing and complex apps. .

 

[kasakka]

iOS has a very generic GUI with a restrictive set of rules (giving the impression of a dumbed down OS), but the code allows for some very amazing and complex apps. .

However there are still plenty of cases where those complex apps just don't exist compared to a full blown desktop OS. I tried using my iPad for programming a few times and to be honest it was rough. By comparison I would not have any issues doing that on a Surface Pro as I could just use the same apps I use on the desktop and they would work well enough with a touch screen. Obviously it depends on what your needs are, if I was a marketing guy or businessman running from meeting to meeting the iPad would probably be just fine.

I really would love to see my work setup diminish from a Macbook Pro into just a phone or tablet I connect at home or at the office to a display and some external input peripherals. I really hope that is something that Google manages to do with Andromeda as Microsoft didn't quite do it thanks to having poor support from 3rd party developers on their Win10 Mobile platform.