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Do you think Apple should have ALLOWED this App?

  • Yes, definately!

    Votes: 50 60.2%
  • Maybe/I don't know

    Votes: 19 22.9%
  • No, this App is junk!

    Votes: 14 16.9%

  • Total voters
    83

capnjiggins

macrumors member
Aug 29, 2008
31
0
Wow...Apple, this is exactly the type of thing thats going to make users want to use other devices (Android mobile OS). As said before, there are plenty of calendar, weather and music apps. And you choose to reject a PODCAST app??? Something unique that many people would use? Nice job scaring away developers.
 

Trip.Tucker

Guest
Mar 13, 2008
946
1
Wow...Apple, this is exactly the type of thing thats going to make users want to use other devices (Android mobile OS). As said before, there are plenty of calendar, weather and music apps. And you choose to reject a PODCAST app??? Something unique that many people would use? Nice job scaring away developers.

No....no, it's not. Just you.
 

angels lust

macrumors member
Sep 11, 2008
81
0
I don't understand why people are so defensive about it. I would never use this app but that doesn't mean I can't see the benefits of having it. Point is it adds something that you cannot currently do. I'm sure Apple has their reasons for blocking it but I know it's not because it "already duplicates" some other functionality. That's just a BS excuse for something else.
 

minik

macrumors demi-god
Jun 25, 2007
2,212
1,744
somewhere
I say yes just because it gives users an alternative. However, I'm not go out and download the app.
 

JimmyJawn

macrumors newbie
Jul 29, 2008
13
0
NJ
That's the inherent problem with their system.

It's too subjective. There should be a clear line drawn in the sand. Then there wouldn't be any issues.

The solution is ridiculously simple, yet they continue to play the "we know what's better for the consumer".

How can you gauge whether or not an app will be popular before it's even released. If it sits idle in the App Store for months on end with 5 downloads, then yea, go ahead and scrap it. But the App store is loaded with so much buggy crap for every one good app, that this selective censorship is ridiculous.

It's clearly not working if all these other broken apps are sitting around on itunes for weeks on end. This control freak nonsense has to have its limits.

You hit the nail right on the head. Apple's current whimsical rejection standards lead to developers wasting time creating apps that are going to get rejected. This encourages people to release broken, featureless, and downright beta or alpha quality software just to see whether or not it will stand to the scrutiny of the App Store Gods. What's worse is that even then if it passes the initial inspection it might end up getting pulled at a later date for problems with AT&T or some other third party (Netshare, Tris, PhoneSaber).

This will end up causing developers to get fed up with creating App Store merch and a software drought for all the iPhone owners. Apple needs to get its act together and revamp the SDK agreement for clarity and also overhaul its rejection process so that less time gets wasted and more product hits iTunes.
 

SuperMacMan

macrumors regular
Original poster
Jul 12, 2008
194
1
Melbourne, Australia
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/562342/ Is the front page news story, submitted by myself, BTW. Arn didn't see this thread, obviously.

Personally, I don't think Apple should have rejected this app. Why are all 200,000 tip calculators allowed on the store, yet a new, unique, definitely NOT a duplicate functionality, denied?

For those of you saying that this does duplicate functionality, I bet you $10 that you cannot download podcasts to your iPhone WITHOUT syncing it to your computer, OR going to each site and streaming it. Nope. Can't do it. So definitely NOT duplicate functionality.

Also, for those saying bandwidth issues: 1) YouTube can be used over 3G/EDGE/WiFi, does Apple care about bandwidth on that app? NO! 2) Pandora, Last.FM, etc have the potential to pull massive amounts of data. Approved? YEP! And they BOTH have the capability to listen to music (Just search for a song on YouTube - GUARANTEED to be there!), which totally defeats the iTunes Store. So, why are these apps still up in the App Store/On the iPhone? HUH!? Can't explain that... I thought so.

Also, if anyone says that it probably would have only taken a week to make, no effort was put into it, whatever, I KNOW FOR A FACT that this developer has been up all night every night working on this app, and as much of the day he can work on it. He has given up family time for this app, in the hope that after he finished it, he would have an extra source of income, and wouldn't have to work as hard at his day job, therefore able to spend more time with his young, hungry family by selling this app for USD $4.99.

Finally, if anyone says that $4.99 is a rip-off, I'd seriously be wondering how the heck you afforded a USD $199/$299 iPhone 3G... or AUD $500 iPhone 3G......... I don't think $5 is much........

If anyone else has any objections, feel free to let me know. Happy to answer. I have a close contact with this developer.
 

firteen888

macrumors regular
Sep 2, 2008
209
0
I think it's obvious why Apple rejected this App. they're probably working on a firmware update right now that will include a way to wirelessly update/subscribe to podcasts deirectly from the iphone/touch.
 

PowerFullMac

macrumors 601
Oct 16, 2006
4,000
2
Really? I don't think it's entirely true.

It pretty much is.

I mean, the fact Apple rejects useful apps like this for no reason shows they have too much control and are abusing it, which is why people jailbreak their iPhones so they can get whatever damn apps they want, most of them free!
 

SuperMacMan

macrumors regular
Original poster
Jul 12, 2008
194
1
Melbourne, Australia
It doesn't look like situations for developers getting apps rejected are getting any better....
Apple have just made it so that the developer of Pocaster cannot issue ANY more provisioning files... Therefore rendering his app un-sellable for now, either by App Store or Ad-Hoc.
Therefore he's releasing it for Cydia in the next few days...



Oh, and this is what Apple is now putting on all rejection letters:

THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS MESSAGE IS UNDER NON-DISCLOSURE

Sourced from https://www.macrumors.com/2008/09/23/apple-extends-non-disclosure-to-app-store-rejection-letters/
Seems all this campaigning to make Apple relax the restrictions actually made them tighter..... Oh dear.....
Seems like they're ENCOURAGING jailbreak..... Which has exactly what this App has been FORCED to come to....
Bad move Apple, bad move....

SuperMacMan
 

MVApple

macrumors 6502a
Jul 18, 2008
527
1
It's their store, they don't have to sell items they don't want. I'm so tired of seeing these threads. As a developer and business owner, I understand that if I sell in the app store, or wish to, the STORE OWNER has the right to reject my product.

So....don't develop if you are not willing to take that risk.

No but you can go and try to sell it to another store can't you? What if a store told you that they would sell your product and then you spent time and money to make the product only to be rejected with "NO" chance of selling it anywhere else?

Doesn't sound fair now does it?

If Apple would disapprove apps BEFORE people spent time and money to make them then I would say, "No Problem", but that's not what is happening.
 
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