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Any Apple fans considering switching to android versus IPhone 15?
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I pulled the trigger last december, Lasted a month went back to iphone, then after a month switched back, and haven't looked back. Chances are I'll probably end up back on iPhone at some point, mainly because my pixel won;t connect to my macbook (probably apples end as a factory reset didn't fix the issue (reset was for different reason).
I may be American, but I love the EU holding Apple accountable. Sounds like there's a chance that they require them to support RCS. If that goes through, hopefully that covers the US too.
There is certainly no requirement to get rid of Apple desktop and iPad just because you move to an Android phone. Do not be taken in by another "ecosystem". Enjoy an Android phone and enjoy the Mac Mini and iPad (if you like them). If you absolutely must entrench yourself in another ecosystem, perhaps start with phone and use it for a while to be sure you like Android. If for some strange reason you decide to go back to iOS, it will be cheaper to return or sell just a phone than having to dispose of a phone, a desktop and a tablet.
I switched about 4 weeks ago to a pixel but still use iPad as well. They both do what's needed of them as I have just installed some of the Google apps on the iPad.
I operated like this, iPad + Macbook on one side, Android phone and Windows PC on the other side for years with no issues. Just kept the passwords in sync between Keychain and Chrome, and that was it.
There's very little you lose by not having an iPhone. Calls don't get routed to your iPad or Macbook but that's super rare anyway. You don't get texts shared between devices but honestly that's a non issue. Of course, you cannot use an Apple Watch but I think they're rubbish and I'm with Garmin anyway.
One thing I always do though, is make sure I don't lock myself into some particular standard, especially with Apple.
For example, I'd never buy some media device that can only do AirPlay, like the HomePod or whatever it's called. I make sure they support AirPlay, Chromecast, uPnP, ideally Spotify Connect. This makes it easy to connect using anything.
PS: avoid iCloud too. Don't pay for it and especially don't use it for photos. Use Google Photos if you must, it's far more portable.
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Every single premium Android device I’ve owned (Samsung, Sony & Huwaei) has had better build quality and longevity than my Apple products so it always confuses me when people cite Apple's build quality as a plus point.
They're just slogans, like "iPhone is the most secure phone".
Apple had abysmal security flaws. At one point they messed up the cryptographic certificate validation across their code base, so it affected iOS and the Macs. This is the code that makes sure your banking app connects to your bank's server and not something impersonating it, and that the communication is secret.
It was a stupid goto bug yet Apple didn't have the simplest regression testing in place, to run on the gold release and check that nobody did something dumb. They released it like that, while telling customers they care about their security and they're the best at it.
Look at how hostile they are to Google's software vulnerability team, which is one of the best in the world. Apple is slow to accept, slow to fix. No wonder they're full of 0-days and other crap.
But sure, plenty of people swallow uncritically and then drone their marketing bs about security and privacy.
So your anecdotal experience trumps everything?
I can do that too…I’ve owned far more Apple devices than the some total of all other mobile devices, probably by a factor of 10, and have had more build quality issues with that much smaller sample of non-Apple hardware—and not from a percentage but straight comparison of incidents. Every single Nexus/Pixel I’ve owned, made by everyone from Samsung, LG, Huawei, Motorola and Google themselves had various degrees of build quality issues, inferior parts or defects. Samsung tablet had faulty power button that meant sometimes the device wouldn't power on when pressed or wake up. Pixel Chromebook had a cluster of dead pixels.
But to be clear, I wasn't comparing Apple's build quality to others but rather expressing my personal preference on their design, materials and quality. I like the squared off metal frame, heft (I like that it's heavier with a slab like substantial feel) and flat display.
I'm really enjoying my time using the Pixel Fold but for instance, if anyone tries to objectively claim it's as well put together as an current generation iPhone or Galaxy doesn't understand what they're talking about.
I will no doubt go backward and forward both ways at least once with both android and ios over the course of the next 12 months. Its the same every year, sadly I never learn 🤣
I do daydream about the iPhone 15 Pro Max, and the amazing hardware going into it, and the slim bezles and flat display. Apple makes super high-end looking / feeling phones, and with the A17 and 8GB RAM it will run so smooth and fluid.
But...then I wake up and realize it runs iOS, ugh. Such a shame that a powerhouse smartphone runs such a crap outdated OS.
Oh well, Pixel 8 Pro or S24 Ultra is it for me next.
But...then I wake up and realize it runs iOS, ugh. Such a shame that a powerhouse smartphone runs such a crap outdated OS.
Oh well, Pixel 8 Pro or S24 Ultra is it for me next.
For sure. The iPhone 15 Pro Max looks to be awesome! But I'm in the same boat as you are. I've come to really start loving how Android "just works" (see what I did there?). I have a work iPhone 11 and I fire it up occasionally and I just hate how their notifications work and of course the App Library is terrible. But there are some really positive points to Apple as well, so it's always a tough internal debate for me.
It isn't anecdotal so far as I'm concerned, I base my future purchases upon my experiences but yeah I hear you. Apple products feel hefty and premium, nice slabs of metal & glass that feel good in the hand but they often have loose, cheap-feeling buttons which massively lets down the premium vibe.
I know that you're going to come back to me saying that every last one of your Apple devices have had super tight, Rolls Royce standard buttons but it just hasn't been my experience sadly. Some have, don't get me wrong, but the only devices I've had problems with in recent memory have been made by Apple. Loose buttons, wobbly charge ports, failed screens, faulty screens, updates that killed the phone (iPhone 4) and updates that decimated battery life - all these issues have come my way courtesy of Apple over the years. For me Samsung has better build quality. I can buy their products with total confidence but that confidence isn't there when I buy Apple. Obviously YMMV.
No way, never going back to that ****** apple ecosystem. S23U is absolutely crushing it
Do you have WiFi speakers? What do you use?
I use Sonos. I mostly like it and it supports Airplay, Spotify Connect, UPnP, and lots of services within it's own app. But a bit irritating that it doesn't support Chromecast.
Sonos is ok, we have a Sonos speaker for the kids. In the kitchen we use a Naim Mu-so.
Otherwise I have several big systems, with Lyngdorf (supports everything), Denon and other devices. We use uPnP (a lot of the music ripped on the local NAS), or CD/BluRay/SACD, or Spotify, and they all support Spotify Connect. If needed, I have a couple of Audio Chromecasts (the little pucks with line/optical out) so I can convert anything to audio Chromecast support.
Nothing’s perfect, including my Apple hardware but in the same way you’ve found Samsung devices to be rock solid, Apple’s hardware has been very consistent for me, and is a big reason why I keep buying them. The last quality related issue was my wife’s 12” Macbook’s keyboard, an admitted known quality issue, a few years back. Otherwise, the only interaction I’ve had with Apple’s support is for a few repairs (broken screens on kid’s phones and my iPad Pro) and pair of battery replacements (reduced capacity after about 2.5-3 years of heavy use by my teenagers). But as you accurately pointed out, this will vary between all of us.
Tim Cook on Tuesday: "We are proud to announce that we are the first to have created USB C!"
Only the Pixel Fold could tempt me away from an iPhone currently; and I don't think it's up to par yet. So maybe the 2nd reiteration... More so as I don't really need a foldable as I've got an iPad; but need an iPhone as I have an AWU
None of Samsung's devices appeal to me at all; I lasted a fortnight with the S23U and couldn't wait to get back to the IP14PM
My Pixel 4XL does a superb job as my business handset (the Samsung A53 5G was getting more & more useless so shoved it in my bottom drawer) and for me it's still a superb phone
Currently there's no benefit for me to switch to Android permanently; so I'll stick with what I've got for now
None of Samsung's devices appeal to me at all; I lasted a fortnight with the S23U and couldn't wait to get back to the IP14PM
My Pixel 4XL does a superb job as my business handset (the Samsung A53 5G was getting more & more useless so shoved it in my bottom drawer) and for me it's still a superb phone
Currently there's no benefit for me to switch to Android permanently; so I'll stick with what I've got for now
This year I have owned pixel 7 pro, s23 ultra and now Honor Magic 5 Pro
After a couple of weeks of use have always gone back to the trusty 11 pro Max. There are too many compromises in most android phones, although the Honor Magic 5 Pro has been the best I’ve used this year.
Back to my 11 PM for now. I probably won’t get the 15 PM because of the stupendously high price, so I’ll be watching what pixel 8 pro has in store.
After a couple of weeks of use have always gone back to the trusty 11 pro Max. There are too many compromises in most android phones, although the Honor Magic 5 Pro has been the best I’ve used this year.
Back to my 11 PM for now. I probably won’t get the 15 PM because of the stupendously high price, so I’ll be watching what pixel 8 pro has in store.
LOL yep.
Also we have the thinnest bezels ever on a smartphone, which will transform your life in ways unimaginable
Thin bezels, who ***** cares.
The one comforting thing if I choose to stay on Android/Samsung is that if I choose to upgrade to the S24 Ultra, I'm getting value for the money I'm spending. I'll get a free storage upgrade and enough preorder bonus dollars to ensure I'll get a free case or two and possibly another accessory. If the 15 Pro Max is $1299 for 256gb, then I'm also going to have to spend $60 on a case, and then if they screw us over and require us to get their brand if USB C cable for fast charging, then I'm sure that's another $50 minimum.