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I’m sure they will just not yet. Don’t think it really needs 8GB
it will get that much and more the day the iPhone becomes our only computer and easily docks with peripherals for at desk work.. how far can that really be? sure not next year.. but..
 
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it will get that much and more the day the iPhone becomes our only computer and easily docks with peripherals for at desk work.. how far can that really be? sure not next year.. but..
Given that the iPad has yet to make substantial inroads on this front, I highly doubt we'll ever reach the point where the iPhone is the one device to rule them all.

I'd be happy to eat these words, but I don't see it happening with current Apple leadership.
 
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Agree, it's a bit unfair they put 4GB on the regular 12 and 6GB on the pro's without mentioning it
Yep, and the iPads were the same way prior to the M1 iPad Pros. No mention of RAM. Samsung shares RAM for their phones (and I assume their tablets), so it’s either Apple being weird or behind the times.
 
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Given that the iPad has yet to make substantial inroads on this front, I highly doubt we'll ever reach the point where the iPhone is the one device to rule them all.

I'd be happy to eat these words, but I don't see it happening with current Apple leadership.

Ever? Not Ever? I hear you got a beef with the current apple leadership, but its extremely short sighted to think there won't be a private device that contains everything we need in terms of storage, processing power, and connectivity. whether it be a phone or a watch (even further) or glasses (further still). pun intended on short sighted. Technology has a momentum and all the personal gripes people have here with IOS aside, there is an inevitability with the one device approach, and we will see some version of it in less than 10 years. But maybe thats what you mean by 'ever', 1 year? 5?
 
Apple needs to stop being so secretive about ram and battery capacity, just about every other company mentions exactly how much ram and battery capacity customers get during events, wont hurt to put a specs section in settings as well.

It probably didn’t hurt their sales NOT to mention these either.
 
And what are you going to do with that on a phone? Legit question. Please give actual use cases besides "my buddy has it on his Android"
For my iPhone uses (which I would say are more demanding than the average user, but not the high-end "pro") 4GB of RAM is when I hit the sweet spot for all of my usage except the camera. Back on my iPhone 11 Pro if I opened the camera app there was a good chance Safari and a few other apps got booted from memory. The iPhone 12 Pro with 6GB does not have this issue so I think 6GB is an all-around good value.
 
Apple needs to stop being so secretive about ram and battery capacity, just about every other company mentions exactly how much ram and battery capacity customers get during events, wont hurt to put a specs section in settings as well. 🤦‍♂️

They can't. Apple knows people will compare "hardware specs" to the competitor with no context whatsoever.

Silence is typically the best approach. If an Android app is using java through a virtual machine to run an app it will have a larger memory footprint vs a similar iOS app. As the apps handling of memory get worse it gets exponentially worse on Android. How does Apple go about saying "They have more RAM because they need more RAM"? The results speak for themselves...

(btw the flexibility of what Android is capable of could offset that to many, I'm in no way saying Android is bad. Its a give and take though)

How do you add a spec to the results though? The iPhone 12 Pro is capable encoding 4k60hz 10bit dolby vision to HEVC and once its recorded there is a certain level of video editing you can do on the device.....with only 6gb of RAM! I need to use a proxy to scrub through that video on a computer with 16gb of RAM. The data just can't be moved and processed that quickly.

Specs are great to know, I agree with you there however caution needs to be used because a manufacturers can and will use a "hardware spec" as a marketing tool. If a smartphone manufacturer gets you to buy a smartphone because it had 10gb of RAM then it did its job....sold you a phone. It doesn't need to bring any tangible performance or enhancements to the table...its purpose was to sell you something and now its job is done.

Samsung did this with megapixels years ago. They kept increasing the megapixel count and the detriment to photo quality. Think about that, the spec they were selling was hurting performance. And it actually worked!! Tons of people bought into that, they would be on forms saying "iPhone only has 12mp my Samsung has 20mp". Finally it caught up to them and they reduced the MP to work with the reset of the hardware to produce a high quality photo again.

Again I'm not bashing Samsung and/or Android. Depending on the device they can make a great product especially for those that want to dig more into the software....
 
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Really good points. iOS and iPadOS can handle things very differently from a computer or other mobile OS platforms. Apple knows it’s not always about the RAM. The processor and the OS itself is doing a lot of the heavy lifting.

I suppose the main reason they only started to include RAM in the specs of the iPad Pro 2021 is because it’s now at a level that looks more comparable to their computers. They wouldn’t advertise that a phone has 4GB RAM, when most would think that’s unimpressive and it might even turn off certain technophiles.
 
Ever? Not Ever? I hear you got a beef with the current apple leadership, but its extremely short sighted to think there won't be a private device that contains everything we need in terms of storage, processing power, and connectivity. whether it be a phone or a watch (even further) or glasses (further still). pun intended on short sighted. Technology has a momentum and all the personal gripes people have here with IOS aside, there is an inevitability with the one device approach, and we will see some version of it in less than 10 years. But maybe thats what you mean by 'ever', 1 year? 5?
"Ever" was something I typed in before modifying my statement to reflect that Apple's current leadership appears to be the roadblock, and then I didn't go back and delete. Thanks for the copy edit.

I don't really have a beef with Tim et al., I just see them more as incremental improvers rather than innovators. I'd love to have a single device drive my workspace, my entertainment center, and my portable needs, but when did we see the last game-changing innovation in the Apple/i(Pad)OS ecosystem? Siri? Even the Apple Watch, self-driving cars, glasses and VR goggles are variations on somebody else's theme. The Tim Cook era has featured a lot of "Oh, that's cool" moments, but it's been a long time since I looked at a new Apple product and thought "That's going to change my life."
 
According to Wikipedia, the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max with 1 TB of storage do in fact have 8 GB of RAM.

I don't know how they know it.

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According to Wikipedia, the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max with 1 TB of storage do in fact have 8 GB of RAM.

I don't know how they know it.

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We'll find out once the 1TB are in the customers hands. I find it hard to believe it'll be more than 6GB since that's what's being said on the front page here.

 
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