Any idea on whether the user will be able to open and clean the Mac Studio?

[loby]

Well if it's a desktop that can't be opened, I literally will not be buying it... And maybe I'll just wait for the Mac Pro, which we will probably be able to open?

Seriously, to think that Apple would design a desktop Mac that can't be opened, based on the Mac Mini (which can be opened), in 2022, even to dust out the fans just a little, is ludicrous.
I need to dust my desk on basically a daily basis, since a lot of dust gathers there even though I vacuum a lot, and that's the one thing I hate about Macs. I've used my iMac Pro in the studio and there's a lot of people there, which makes more dust, and the insides kinda get clogged from it and then the iMac Pro becomes more audible, which is horrible in a studio environment. There's also isolation foam and various carpets etc., in music studios, and this can get full of dust as well.

So to think they would actually design a Mac Studio that can't be opened and CLEANED just a little is mind-boggling.

Sorry for the huge rant lol, and HOPEFULLY I'm wrong and we will be able to access just a little.

Not ranting...totally agree. If someone had a Mac Pro 6,1 (2013) they understand. At least with that you can open and clean the dust. You HAVE to do it at least once a year. At least Apple at the time allowed the shell to be removed.

The design of it is wonderful, but...the design is also designed to take in dust with no outlet for its exit. It needs to be dusted out regardless and there is no literal way to do it without literally breaking into it to do it.

Apple designed this for just a short use. It is not targeted for those who want to keep it for years and years like Mac mini's or Mac pro's before. It is an outstanding Mac...but is targeted for the 3-4 year users where their project(s) pay for the cost, then buy again when needed.

I want it (the maxed out version)...but cannot justify the cost and projecting to having to buy again in 3-4 years. This includes the Mac studio display as well. I am a jaded buyer of a maxed MacBook Pro i9 2018...those of you who have that era's Macs will understand what I am talking about...

 

[Feek]

What about iMacs? I'm on my third iMac, I've sold all the previous ones on after five to six years and they're all going strong. They all work on the same principle you've described which is to suck air in through the bottom with no outlet for it to exit.
Each one, I've given a puff of compressed air when I remember which will be less than once a year. They're not useless, they've not failed, there's nothing wrong with them. The iMac I sold when I got this one in 2017 is still being used daily and I know the new owner has never dusted it.

Apple designed this for just a short use.

You're writing this for comedy value, right?

I have a Mac mini under my desk that I bought in 2011. It's on the floor so it's in a naturally dusty environment and it's on 24/7. It's never been opened, again, it works on the same principle, it sucks in air (and dust) for cooling. Same theory you've described, that should have been dead six or seven years ago?

I've never heard such tosh in my life.

 

[loby]

What about iMacs? I'm on my third iMac, I've sold all the previous ones on after five to six years and they're all going strong. They all work on the same principle you've described which is to suck air in through the bottom with no outlet for it to exit.
Each one, I've given a puff of compressed air when I remember which will be less than once a year. They're not useless, they've not failed, there's nothing wrong with them. The iMac I sold when I got this one in 2017 is still being used daily and I know the new owner has never dusted it.


You're writing this for comedy value, right?

I have a Mac mini under my desk that I bought in 2011. It's on the floor so it's in a naturally dusty environment and it's on 24/7. It's never been opened, again, it works on the same principle, it sucks in air (and dust) for cooling. Same theory you've described, that should have been dead six or seven years ago?

I've never heard such tosh in my life.

I might reconsider my comedy.. LOL

Imacs I had to open up and dust out due to over heating. It depends on what you use it for. For daily use or servers etc. fans don’t come on that much. But for video work, i could roast marsh-mellows and use it for a heater in the winter, especially intel chips and graphic work (even with mini’s for that matter) over the years. Thermal paste reapplication may come first now before concerns with dust with the new machines and new era.

I don’t doubt you on it with your over 30 years experience, but Apple silicon is still a new adventure so maybe there will be no need to care about dusting it out overall. We will only know as the years go bye.

I have thought about it more…maybe dust will not matter with the mac studio in the long run. The time when you actually need to “dust it out” it might have already outlived the need, so no need to be concerned. I did not consider this…

 

[Feek]

I have thought about it more…maybe dust will not matter with the mac studio in the long run. The time when you actually need to “dust it out” it might have already outlived the need, so no need to be concerned. I did not consider this…

I genuinely don't think it'll be an issue.

Regarding my iMac, it gets a lot of heavy use and the fans are always running. It's the 2017 i7 version which was slated when it first came out for fan noise when they ramped up and I've just learned to live with it. The sound of the fans and the frequency they run at doesn't change when it gets an occasional dust blow out. I do a good blow through with compressed air and yes, a lot of dust comes out but I don't notice any difference in temperatures due to dust.

My 2010 Mac Pro sat on the floor and was also an utter dust magnet but because it was so damn heavy, I only cleaned out out once in all the time I had it.

I'm looking forward to my Studio Ultra arriving so I can finally get a much quieter environment!

Apologies for giving you a harsh reply, I love these forums but I do find an awful lot of negativity here and it just frustrates me a bit sometimes.

 

[loby]

I genuinely don't think it'll be an issue.

Regarding my iMac, it gets a lot of heavy use and the fans are always running. It's the 2017 i7 version which was slated when it first came out for fan noise when they ramped up and I've just learned to live with it. The sound of the fans and the frequency they run at doesn't change when it gets an occasional dust blow out. I do a good blow through with compressed air and yes, a lot of dust comes out but I don't notice any difference in temperatures due to dust.

My 2010 Mac Pro sat on the floor and was also an utter dust magnet but because it was so damn heavy, I only cleaned out out once in all the time I had it.

I'm looking forward to my Studio Ultra arriving so I can finally get a much quieter environment!

Apologies for giving you a harsh reply, I love these forums but I do find an awful lot of negativity here and it just frustrates me a bit sometimes.

Understand..no problem. Macrumors users seem to have been getting now-a-days more negative over the years as the world gets more intense, so forums sometimes allows people to vent. I take things light hearted on forums, so your comment actually gave me a laugh. . I can be “dumb” at times, so don’t mind the correction. People get too sensitive about comments and I did not see it as harsh, just honest.

You did make me think about the dust issue more seriously. Over heating seems to be more about thermal paste drying more so then dust. Enjoy your Mac Studio!

 

[exoticSpice]

Over heating seems to be more about thermal paste drying more so then dust. Enjoy your Mac Studio!

What if we want to replace the thermal paste then? It's not user serviceable is it.

Apple COULD have made it like the 2013 Mac Pro but chose not too. That part I don't like.

 

[loby]

What if we want to replace the thermal paste then? It's not user serviceable is it.

Apple COULD have made it like the 2013 Mac Pro but chose not too. That part I don't like.

Yes...that kind of shows that it is disposable product (expensive) in their minds...but...

We don't know yet how long Apple Silicon takes for thermal paste to have need of replacement. I kind of gotten over the "no dusting out the unit" problem in a few years like you have to do once or twice a year (or more) with Mac Pro 6,1 (2013) depending on usage and environment, but maybe it is designed to run clean. We will have to wait a year or so to see (and then hear the complaints).

I am hoping that Apple will amaze us and their new technology will allow for a long time without the need to reapply thermal paste and the dusting out of the unit issue is not a concern. Time will tell...