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Pure speculations, no source specified etc. - they may even use this forum as source.

However noticing a lack of pictures emerging we may make some speculations:

- Perhaps same enclosure and only logic board changes so the assemblers don't have anything to brag about
- Perhaps same enclosure as the Airport or Time Capsule and once again no-one wanting to brag about this
- Perhaps not on its way yet (unlikely)
- Perhaps assembled in the US with new employees more adhering to company standards of non disclosure
- Perhaps fully automated assembly

Time will show us which on it is, I prefer to "live in the now" and not in yesterday or tomorrow.

PERHAPS...

but we need to speculate and calculate before we decide what/when to buy.

...otherwise, we can buy a new BTO iMac "with better than basic" specs and that's all!
 
I was wondering.
Not yet, but there's still time for Apple to announce a Mac mini update this month.

My understanding is that the mini and pro are both getting new US production. I'm hoping that also means a mini redesign.
Yes the Mac Pro will be made in the US. I haven't seen anything that said the Mac mini would be made in the US. So where are you getting that information from?
 
Time they put an SSD in the Mini

You can currently spec a mini with a SSD or fusion drives. The server can have one each.

Base: 1TB Serial ATA Drive @ 5400 rpm

Option 1: 1TB Fusion Drive [Add $200.00]

Option 2: 256GB Solid State Drive [Add $200.00]
 
Just watch the Keynote Tuesday. They will probably say something about the release date of the Pro. Add 1-2 months and you have an estimate.
 
Just watch the Keynote Tuesday. They will probably say something about the release date of the Pro. Add 1-2 months and you have an estimate.

Maybe...but still in 2013....

do you think APPLE will ignore case MAX TDP limit by choosing Iris Pro HD5200 graphics in their best BTO version? :rolleyes:
 
Maybe...but still in 2013....

do you think APPLE will ignore case MAX TDP limit by choosing Iris Pro HD5200 graphics in their best BTO version? :rolleyes:

My expectations will are for HD5100 graphics.

http://ark.intel.com/products/75990

If they go with a dual-core i7, perhaps it's this one:

http://ark.intel.com/products/75992

Options seem to be much more limited in the quad arena, all of which seem to have either HD4600 (doubtful Apple goes that way) or HD5200 (infringing on iMac?). Maybe this is the quad core if Apple makes one:

http://ark.intel.com/products/76086
 
Yes the Mac Pro will be made in the US. I haven't seen anything that said the Mac mini would be made in the US. So where are you getting that information from?

Part judgement - Tim wants to bring as much production here as is practical and is starting with the smaller volume, less labor intensive products. The Mac mini is both of these while still being expensive enough to begin with (vs say an iPod shuffle).

Part info - I inquired (with apple but low level) about possible us production (before the pro announcement) and was informed that the mini was on the docket for such a change.
 
This is the best approach:

The "400-day" refresh cycle is coming to an end soon. I bet they just throw in the newest processor to kick up performance a little more.

If the MacMini slips into April without a refresh, they are possibly redesigning the entire package (which they should next year to further reduce the size and simplify the insides) around the Haswell which comes out in late 2014. When Apple products slip far out of refresh, they usually are getting a redesign.

Mini is prime for a design refresh. It still has FIREWIRE. It's also odd that there are 4 USB ports on such a device. There is a lot of bulk for such a low-end device. I'd expect it to shrink drastically in the next couple years.
 
If they decide to refresh it, they will follow the same design and options.

Duel core i5 for the cheap and Quad core i7 for the expensive and server edition.

It will either have a HD4600 or a Iris Pro, and the only reason Apple will go for the HD4600 is because it's cheaper (but I suspect they'll just chuck the Iris Pro in as they can buy even more Iris Pro's in bulk because the quads will be the same as they use in the rMBP 15").

TDP isn't a issue or problem, mostly because 45W was the TDP of the rMBP specification on the Old Ivy Bridge processors and they are now using 47W Haswell processors.

If a notebook a quarter of the thickness of a mac mini can run Haswell Iris Pro chips, there is nothing technologically inhibiting Apple putting the Iris Pro Haswell into the Mac Mini.


I expect them to put the 13" rMBP processors in the cheap mac mini for duel core function with the 15" rMBP processors in the more expensive and server editions for quad core, so Iris and Iris Pro. The only reason to move to HD4600 is price, but I don't see apple wanting to buy more chips of a different variety and go through the whole process of testing, development, optimisations for those and the price factor can probably be negotiated down with bulk purchases.
 
If they decide to refresh it, they will follow the same design and options.

Duel core i5 for the cheap and Quad core i7 for the expensive and server edition.

It will either have a HD4600 or a Iris Pro, and the only reason Apple will go for the HD4600 is because it's cheaper (but I suspect they'll just chuck the Iris Pro in as they can buy even more Iris Pro's in bulk because the quads will be the same as they use in the rMBP 15").

TDP isn't a issue or problem, mostly because 45W was the TDP of the rMBP specification on the Old Ivy Bridge processors and they are now using 47W Haswell processors.

If a notebook a quarter of the thickness of a mac mini can run Haswell Iris Pro chips, there is nothing technologically inhibiting Apple putting the Iris Pro Haswell into the Mac Mini.


I expect them to put the 13" rMBP processors in the cheap mac mini for duel core function with the 15" rMBP processors in the more expensive and server editions for quad core, so Iris and Iris Pro. The only reason to move to HD4600 is price, but I don't see apple wanting to buy more chips of a different variety and go through the whole process of testing, development, optimisations for those and the price factor can probably be negotiated down with bulk purchases.

Let's wait till end of Nov.2013....not later!
 
If they decide to refresh it, they will follow the same design and options.

Duel core i5 for the cheap and Quad core i7 for the expensive and server edition.

It will either have a HD4600 or a Iris Pro, and the only reason Apple will go for the HD4600 is because it's cheaper (but I suspect they'll just chuck the Iris Pro in as they can buy even more Iris Pro's in bulk because the quads will be the same as they use in the rMBP 15").

TDP isn't a issue or problem, mostly because 45W was the TDP of the rMBP specification on the Old Ivy Bridge processors and they are now using 47W Haswell processors.

If a notebook a quarter of the thickness of a mac mini can run Haswell Iris Pro chips, there is nothing technologically inhibiting Apple putting the Iris Pro Haswell into the Mac Mini.


I expect them to put the 13" rMBP processors in the cheap mac mini for duel core function with the 15" rMBP processors in the more expensive and server editions for quad core, so Iris and Iris Pro. The only reason to move to HD4600 is price, but I don't see apple wanting to buy more chips of a different variety and go through the whole process of testing, development, optimisations for those and the price factor can probably be negotiated down with bulk purchases.

I totally agree with your point about the 45w vs 47w TDP….

I makes no sense to say that a 2w difference will be the reason for not including Iris Pro.

Cost on the other hand may be…. :(
 
I totally agree with your point about the 45w vs 47w TDP….

I makes no sense to say that a 2w difference will be the reason for not including Iris Pro.

Cost on the other hand may be…. :(

Cost indeed, but the tray price is $100 more between HD4600 and Iris Pro and only $50 more than the old chips they were using.

It may be that they go for pure cost differences, but I don't find it likely as it would be the only refreshed product that used anything lower than a HD5000 (which is what the air's operate on), plus the issue of testing new chips and rewriting and maintaining graphics drivers/kexts, from a business standpoint you want to introduce as few problems into the existing system as possible, and as the i5 & i7 went through testing for their flagship mobile computing product the rMBP it makes sense to just order more chips in batch to put in as many different products as possible reducing testing and software support for the various forms of hardware, and this is where they can close that $100 (or $50 from previous generation) cost in bulk buying more and saving money on software support for writing display adaptor profiles/kexts/drivers and the testing.


TL;DR Apple will stick the rMBP chips in the mac mini because it's just easier.
 
You don't need to keep doing this... post after post, thread after thread. We all know you have no non-public information.

We don't need a new "do you think the new Mini is coming soon?" post every week either, because the truth is no one has any freakin' clue.
 
We don't need a new "do you think the new Mini is coming soon?" post every week either, because the truth is no one has any freakin' clue.

I don't think that offering new information is the point....

It's all about the excitement of not knowing that makes this so much fun. :d

No....?
 
I don't think that offering new information is the point....

It's all about the excitement of not knowing that makes this so much fun. :d

No....?

To each their own I guess.

It might've been a bit fun when people were first asking the question and thought an update was imminent. I don't personally find much excitement in people asking the same question every week where there's absolutely no new information.

I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade, it just seems odd to me that we just have no idea when an update is coming and that's stated in every thread asked about it, yet people keep asking when we'll see an update.
 
Maybe just a round mac mini (like the pro) but much shorter. Like a tabletop ash tray.
I wouldn't mind a smaller, round Mac Mini, could be pretty sweet.

I'm not sure I'd expect a total redesign though personally, I think we're more likely to get a spec bump to Haswell processors (like the updated laptops), and maybe Thunderbolt 2 (possibly swapping the current Firewire 800 port for another Thunderbolt port). This is something that could still happen this year, but may happen quietly start of next year, at least this is what I'm hoping as it's my intended option if I can't scrounge the cash together for a Mac Pro.
 
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