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Dmaynard83

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Any recent iPhone 6s buyers considering returning their iPhone for a nexus p? Thoughts?
 

sketdansuu

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I'm not returning my 6S but I am interested in getting the 6P so I can try out Project Fi
 

tbayrgs

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Nope...though I'd seriously consider it if I wanted an Android phone right now. It is a fugly looking design though--just my opinion of course.
 

The Game 161

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Too involved in apple to turn back really but if i was to go one route it would be this one. Mainly due to updates and it working better.
 
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Dmaynard83

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I'm not a big fan of the fingerprint sensor on the back. I sit with my phone on the desk and picking it up every time I want to unlock it seems retarded.

With that said I think the design looks nice and love stock android. I know nexus phones aren't known for their cameras though.
 
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tbayrgs

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I'm not a big fan of the fingerprint sensor on the back. I sit with my phone on the desk and picking it up every time I want to unlock it seems retarded.

With that said I think the design looks nice and love stock android. I know nexus phones aren't known for their cameras though.

Agreed about the fingerprint sensor--placement on the back makes next to no sense. Using it requires the phone be picked up everytime and can make for awkward use with tap to pay. My phone is in a dock when I'm driving or cycling and I would have to take it out of the dock every time to use it, else I have to use my passcode, defeating the benefit of having the sensor in the first place.
 

Truefan31

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That's what I don't get about the sensor in the back. It's a chore to use it every time. What about cases? So there's a hole on the back of every case now.

Did anyone in design even think about this?

The Sony camera is interesting though
 

epicrayban

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Agreed about the fingerprint sensor--placement on the back makes next to no sense. Using it requires the phone be picked up everytime and can make for awkward use with tap to pay. My phone is in a dock when I'm driving or cycling and I would have to take it out of the dock every time to use it, else I have to use my passcode, defeating the benefit of having the sensor in the first place.

100% agree. Curious to try it though.
 

Fanaticalism

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Agreed about the fingerprint sensor--placement on the back makes next to no sense. Using it requires the phone be picked up everytime and can make for awkward use with tap to pay. My phone is in a dock when I'm driving or cycling and I would have to take it out of the dock every time to use it, else I have to use my passcode, defeating the benefit of having the sensor in the first place.


Nothing makes sense until you try it. Initial impressions say that it is in fact intuitive and the index finger has a tendency to float to that mid-point anyway. For you specific use cases I see what you're saying but there are ways around that with trusted devices and such.
 

tbayrgs

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Nothing makes sense until you try it. Initial impressions say that it is in fact intuitive and the index finger has a tendency to float to that mid-point anyway. For you specific use cases I see what you're saying but there are ways around that with trusted devices and such.

Well, IMO, the fact that you need 'work arounds' is indicative of a flawed design.
 

Surf Donkey

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Agreed about the fingerprint sensor--placement on the back makes next to no sense. Using it requires the phone be picked up everytime and can make for awkward use with tap to pay. My phone is in a dock when I'm driving or cycling and I would have to take it out of the dock every time to use it, else I have to use my passcode, defeating the benefit of having the sensor in the first place.

You could put NFC stickers in your dock and use tasker to set it as a smart lock trigger. Seems easier than passcodes or fingerprints.

On the desk is not a huge issue for me. I can see notifications without having to unlock the phone. I am going to pick it up to use it if I am going to do anything.
 

tbayrgs

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You could put NFC stickers in your dock and use tasker to set it as a smart lock trigger. Seems easier than passcodes or fingerprints.

On the desk is not a huge issue for me. I can see notifications without having to unlock the phone. I am going to pick it up to use it if I am going to do anything.

Again, all workarounds to deal with limitations---just speaks to a poor design/implementation.
 
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Surf Donkey

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Again, all workarounds to deal with limitations---just speaks to a poor design/implementation.

Fair enough. I would prefer it built into the screen over the back, but I wouldn't say it is poor design as-is. I'd rather have the design of more screen real estate than a physical button on the front.
 

Fried_Gold

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I'm not a big fan of the fingerprint sensor on the back. I sit with my phone on the desk and picking it up every time I want to unlock it seems retarded.

With that said I think the design looks nice and love stock android. I know nexus phones aren't known for their cameras though.

I use smartlock at home/work/in the car anyway so wouldn't make a difference the fingerprint being on the back.
 
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Neverbepeace

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Not returning but getting both Nexus devices :)
 
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noobinator

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I use smartlock at home/work/in the car anyway so wouldn't make a difference the fingerprint being on the back.

Yep, for those concerned about having to pick it up to access the fingerprint scanner on the back, you can use smart unlock. This unlocks based on location, bluetooth pairing, or a few other criteria. The fingerprint scanner is nice to have for paying for things but for me it'll rarely be used to unlock the phone, thanks to smart unlock.
 

throwthedice

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How does this smart unlock thing work exactly?
Can someone please explain what happens when I'm sitting in the office and I need to unlock it, how does having smartlock help?
(genuine question 'cos I've never used this before)
 

Phuturism

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How does this smart unlock thing work exactly?
Can someone please explain what happens when I'm sitting in the office and I need to unlock it, how does having smartlock help?
(genuine question 'cos I've never used this before)

Typically what it does is that you set up for geo-fencing, meaning when your phone is within a certain location it will not require you to use a unlock feature.

For having the reader on the back, pick up your phone and you'll see that your index finger typically rests right there in the middle of the back of the phone. For Tap-n-Pay systems you just need to get the phone within a few centimeters from the reader, no worries. Maybe the NFC chip is located at the top of the device /shrug
 

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Any recent iPhone 6s buyers considering returning their iPhone for a nexus p? Thoughts?
I'm ready to buy the Nexus 6P upon its release. I choose to use and enjoy both platforms. My Nexus 5 and 6 models have provided me with great trouble free, fast and fun experiences of over the last few years.

This year's experience, with my just delivered Moto X Pure has been exemplary indeed.

Using the latest iPhones concurrently has been a much better Apple experience since they finally caught up and released the proper sized display in the iPhone 6 Plus I bought last year. Yet as much as I enjoy my Apple computers and accessories, the locked down closed nature of iOS severely limits it's usefulness as compared to Android.
 
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throwthedice

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Typically what it does is that you set up for geo-fencing, meaning when your phone is within a certain location it will not require you to use a unlock feature.

For having the reader on the back, pick up your phone and you'll see that your index finger typically rests right there in the middle of the back of the phone. For Tap-n-Pay systems you just need to get the phone within a few centimeters from the reader, no worries. Maybe the NFC chip is located at the top of the device /shrug

Thanks for this. However I still don't understand how the device gets unlocked when the phone and I are both sitting on our arses for hours on end while in the office. Maybe I'm missing something here.
 

noobinator

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Thanks for this. However I still don't understand how the device gets unlocked when the phone and I are both sitting on our arses for hours on end while in the office. Maybe I'm missing something here.

It simply bypasses whatever means you choose as a security measure. Like the fingerprint scanner, passcode, pattern, or facial recognition. So if you are in an area that you deem safe to have it automatically unlock, you simply turn on the screen by whatever method you choose and swipe to unlock (rather than doing the security option). So in reality it might be slower this way than the fingerprint scanner. Perhaps you can turn off the swipe and you just turn your phone screen on in a "safe zone" and you are taken to the home screen.
 

Fanaticalism

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Well, IMO, the fact that you need 'work arounds' is indicative of a flawed design.
Is setting up Touch ID to be able to use Apple Pay considered a workaround? How about having to load a document from pages one by one to Google docs because the OS won't let Docs look for .doc files in the system memory? Or Android not having a physical mute switch?

Edit: Just to add one more... is making Touch ID more responsive a flaw because now it's too fast to wake the lock screen to access the camera shortcut, forcing you to use the power button to wake the device first so you can then access the shortcut?

Having a trusted device or place is no different from setting up a security pin, password or Touch ID as you're prompted to set it up during installation/setup. In the end, it's not a flaw just because you have to change the way you do something, it's just a matter of utilizing the tools benefits to get maximum efficiency out of what you're using
 
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