Any recent iPhone 6s buyers debating about getting the Nexus P

[Fanaticalism]

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[tbayrgs]

Is setting up Touch ID to be able to use Apple Pay considered a workaround? How about having to load a document from pages one by one to Google docs because the OS won't let Docs look for .doc files in the system memory? Or Android not having a physical mute switch?

Edit: Just to add one more... is making Touch ID more responsive a flaw because now it's too fast to wake the lock screen to access the camera shortcut, forcing you to use the power button to wake the device first so you can then access the shortcut?

Having a trusted device or place is no different from setting up a security pin, password or Touch ID as you're prompted to set it up during installation/setup. In the end, it's not a flaw just because you have to change the way you do something, it's just a matter of utilizing the tools benefits to get maximum efficiency out of what you're using

First, classic knee jerk response in this forum to criticisms of anything not Apple or iPhone related--unable to successfully defend something's deficiencies so lets try to pick apart flaws of the iPhone in response to deflect. Where did I once mention the iPhone or Touch ID?

And second, your just simply incorrect in your latter comment. If you have to change the way you do something to accommodate functionality that cannot be done because of the hardware's implementation, then yes, it's a poor, inefficient design. When putting the fingerprint sensor in a different location on the phone allows it to be used without having to implement other workarounds, the yes, it's a poor, inefficient design. If it was on the front as Apple and Samsung do (or even the side like the Xperia Z5) I would not need to always pick it up or use a secondary unlock method when it's on a table or in a car dock. Security PIN, password, or front facing fingerprint sensor can always be used in these scenarios without implementing a secondary work around--this implementation cannot. That's the definition of inefficient.

 

[Surf Donkey]

First, classic knee jerk response in this forum to criticisms of anything not Apple or iPhone related--unable to successfully defend something's deficiencies so lets try to pick apart flaws of the iPhone in response to deflect. Where did I once mention the iPhone or Touch ID?

And second, your just simply incorrect in your latter comment. If you have to change the way you do something to accommodate functionality that cannot be done because of the hardware's implementation, then yes, it's a poor, inefficient design. When putting the fingerprint sensor in a different location on the phone allows it to be used without having to implement other workarounds, the yes, it's a poor, inefficient design. If it was on the front as Apple and Samsung do (or even the side like the Xperia Z5) I would not need to always pick it up or use a secondary unlock method when it's on a table or in a car dock. Security PIN, password, or front facing fingerprint sensor can always be used in these scenarios without implementing a secondary work around--this implementation cannot. That's the definition of inefficient.

I still think on the back will be just as natural and efficient. My finger goes to that spot on the back when I pick up my phone, just as much as my thumb usually goes around the bottom part of the front.

I am not sure why I wouldn't use smart lock when at home, at work, or in a dock, even if it was on the front.

 

[tbayrgs]

I still think on the back will be just as natural and efficient. My finger goes to that spot on the back when I pick up my phone, just as much as my thumb usually goes around the bottom part of the front.

I am not sure why I wouldn't use smart lock when at home, at work, or in a dock, even if it was on the front.

I'm not saying it will work poorly when used, just that it's not an optimal design--it's subject to limitations that placing it on the front or side is not.

And yes, smart lock/trusted device functionality is great (wish the iPhone had it) but I'd wager the vast majority of consumer's don't use it and you have to use it if you want to avoid the aforementioned limits.

 

[Fanaticalism]

First, classic knee jerk response in this forum to criticisms of anything not Apple or iPhone related--unable to successfully defend something's deficiencies so lets try to pick apart flaws of the iPhone in response to deflect. Where did I once mention the iPhone or Touch ID?

And second, your just simply incorrect in your latter comment. If you have to change the way you do something to accommodate functionality that cannot be done because of the hardware's implementation, then yes, it's a poor, inefficient design. When putting the fingerprint sensor in a different location on the phone allows it to be used without having to implement other workarounds, the yes, it's a poor, inefficient design. If it was on the front as Apple and Samsung do (or even the side like the Xperia Z5) I would not need to always pick it up or use a secondary unlock method when it's on a table or in a car dock. Security PIN, password, or front facing fingerprint sensor can always be used in these scenarios without implementing a secondary work around--this implementation cannot. That's the definition of inefficient.

I think you've been conditioned to believe all responses are defensive in nature in these forums. If you look at my points I also mentioned the lack of a mute switch as it is missing on Android, yet no one sees it as a design flaw but adjustment.

The problem with definitive statements such as "design flaw" is that they stem from lack of familiarity. I can't fathom on how taking advantage of convenient features equates to work around. Smart lock is literally part of the setup process and takes no effort unlike setting nfc tags and the such.

 

[spinedoc77]

Definitely tempted, that is to buy the Nexus P. I would never sell my 6s+. I can't get over that ugly hump/camera though, it looks like a periscope or sock puppet from the back. I do dig the front facing stereo speakers, IMO it's a huge mistake not to have those on a modern phone. And of course I dig the lack of branding on the front. It's very nice and I'm pretty sure I'm going to grab one just to have an Android kicking around my house, although I'm going to wait until tomorrow to see what Microsoft announces.

 

[spinedoc77]

I'm not saying it will work poorly when used, just that it's not an optimal design--it's subject to limitations that placing it on the front or side is not.

And yes, smart lock/trusted device functionality is great (wish the iPhone had it) but I'd wager the vast majority of consumer's don't use it and you have to use it if you want to avoid the aforementioned limits.

I agree it's not optimal, of course that means not optimal for me. The biggest issue I see is activating the FP sensor when you have the phone in a car mount, or lying on your desk, seems activating it one handed might be tricky as well due to the size and slipperiness. But at the same time it's a sacrifice that had to be made, and I'll take smaller bezel and front facing speakers as a trade off. But I can't wait until they release the FP sensors under the screen.

Smart lock/trusted device functionality is AWESOME, I miss it so much on my iPhone. It's probably one of my top features on Android, very powerful and convenient. I think trusted device functionality more than makes up for the FP placement as I don;'t have to unlock it when I'm in the car and it's Bluetooth connected, or at home/work when it's on my network.