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MBAir2010

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No, because MDM is designed to stick around even after a complete wipe and reinstallation of the OS.
which is why most users here stuck with MacBooks
since they can be altered and last no matter which owner does not want them anymore.
 
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profcutter

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I got a question: my wife’s work issued her a computer. After a while, we realized she should have her own, just for privacy and for job mobility. We copied her data, which is all hers, none of which belongs to her job, to her new machine, which we own outright. Guess what copied over? the MDM. How do we get rid of that? The machine claims it’s being managed by her job, but it’s not registered to her job, they don’t have the serial number, it’s our machine. Any ideas?
 

anshuvorty

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Sep 1, 2010
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I got a question: my wife’s work issued her a computer. After a while, we realized she should have her own, just for privacy and for job mobility. We copied her data, which is all hers, none of which belongs to her job, to her new machine, which we own outright. Guess what copied over? the MDM. How do we get rid of that? The machine claims it’s being managed by her job, but it’s not registered to her job, they don’t have the serial number, it’s our machine. Any ideas?
Did you copy/clone the hard drive from the corporate machine to the personal? If so, this could be the reason why the MDM got carried over as well…

I believe the only way to remove the MDM would be to explain the situation to IT and to have them help your wife out.
 

diggy33

macrumors 65816
Aug 13, 2011
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Northern Virginia
I got a question: my wife’s work issued her a computer. After a while, we realized she should have her own, just for privacy and for job mobility. We copied her data, which is all hers, none of which belongs to her job, to her new machine, which we own outright. Guess what copied over? the MDM. How do we get rid of that? The machine claims it’s being managed by her job, but it’s not registered to her job, they don’t have the serial number, it’s our machine. Any ideas?

Back up your data, erase the drive, and reinstall the OS. The MDM enrollment will not kick off during the set up process since the serial number is not aligned to the company's Apple Business Manager account.
 

RumorHasItAppleLied

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Mar 16, 2022
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Dear all of you higher than thou Sherlocks who never went to law school:

When a company terminates an employee, that employee is under no legal obligation to perform any action on behalf of the company after termination. Such actions include the packaging, transportation of and shipping of company equipment. If the employee was forced to sign documents that require such action in order to receive severance compensation, those documents are considered to be signed under duress and are invalid.

The responsibility of recovering and returning company equipment belongs to the company alone and can not be obstructed by the former employee who must hand over the equipment. However, if the company fails to recover such equipment after 1 year, in most states and some times less, then that equipment is considered to be abandoned and becomes the rightful property of the terminated employee.

If you are unable to help #ihavequestions to reconfigure the abandoned MacBook Pro, shut up and allow the technical experts in this forum ro render assistance.
 

chrfr

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Jul 11, 2009
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Dear all of you higher than thou Sherlocks who never went to law school:

When a company terminates an employee, that employee is under no legal obligation to perform any action on behalf of the company after termination. Such actions include the packaging, transportation of and shipping of company equipment. If the employee was forced to sign documents that require such action in order to receive severance compensation, those documents are considered to be signed under duress and are invalid.
In which jurisdiction is this applicable?
 

dukebound85

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Dear all of you higher than thou Sherlocks who never went to law school:

When a company terminates an employee, that employee is under no legal obligation to perform any action on behalf of the company after termination. Such actions include the packaging, transportation of and shipping of company equipment. If the employee was forced to sign documents that require such action in order to receive severance compensation, those documents are considered to be signed under duress and are invalid.

The responsibility of recovering and returning company equipment belongs to the company alone and can not be obstructed by the former employee who must hand over the equipment. However, if the company fails to recover such equipment after 1 year, in most states and some times less, then that equipment is considered to be abandoned and becomes the rightful property of the terminated employee.

If you are unable to help #ihavequestions to reconfigure the abandoned MacBook Pro, shut up and allow the technical experts in this forum ro render assistance.

I can only speak to Massachusetts. Look up abandoned property law in your state. That said, I have beaten Apple in court.
Not sure what you are on about. Company equipment not retuned upon termination is not "abandoned" and is spelled out when you agree to access their systems and obtain the equipment.

If the employee doesn't return, it is theft.

Using a more obvious example to drive the point home.....by your "flawed" logic, an employee wouldn't need to return a company car when terminated.
 

RumorHasItAppleLied

macrumors newbie
Mar 16, 2022
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Not sure what you are on about. Company equipment not retuned upon termination is not "abandoned" and is spelled out when you agree to access their systems and obtain the equipment.

If the employee doesn't return, it is theft.

Using a more obvious example to drive the point home.....by your "flawed" logic, an employee wouldn't need to return a company car when terminated.
I won my case. How did yours turn out?
 

diggy33

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Aug 13, 2011
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Not sure what you are on about. Company equipment not retuned upon termination is not "abandoned" and is spelled out when you agree to access their systems and obtain the equipment.

If the employee doesn't return, it is theft.

Using a more obvious example to drive the point home.....by your "flawed" logic, an employee wouldn't need to return a company car when terminated.
While neither agreeing or disagreeing with you or @RumorHasItAppleLied, at my last company we had plenty of people not return their laptops or cell phones, and when we complained about it, Legal basically told us its not worth it to pursue in court to get equipment back. I thought that logic was particularly flawed.
 

zwest1

macrumors newbie
Apr 20, 2022
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I bought a Macbook off eBay and it had MDM from some school district in Ohio. I had to find their IT dept info from their website and sent them the info and they removed it. Not everyone is a thief.
Hey there! I believe we may have purchased our MacBooks from the same lot. Mine is also managed by a school district in Ohio. You don't, by any chance, still have the contact info for the person who helped you? I tried contacting them with what info I could find some time ago, but they never got back to me.
Thanks for any help!
-Zack
 

0472967

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Nov 15, 2022
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Hi,
My previous company did the same, and they locked out my Mac.Now when I power up I see the screen asking for 6 digits code.
I asked them for the unlock code pin. They say the will send it to me ASAP. Mine is M1 chip late 2021.
After I enter the pin to Unlock the Mac, what should I do to avoid getting locked again?

Thanks!
 

chrfr

macrumors G5
Jul 11, 2009
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Hi,
My previous company did the same, and they locked out my Mac.Now when I power up I see the screen asking for 6 digits code.
I asked them for the unlock code pin. They say the will send it to me ASAP. Mine is M1 chip late 2021.
After I enter the pin to Unlock the Mac, what should I do to avoid getting locked again?

Thanks!
If they unlock the computer and then remove it from Apple Business Manager, they won't be able to manage it again without physical access to the computer.
 

0472967

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Nov 15, 2022
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If they unlock the computer and then remove it from Apple Business Manager, they won't be able to manage it again without physical access to the computer.
is there any way for me (end user) to remove it from Apple Business Manger?
 

chrfr

macrumors G5
Jul 11, 2009
13,709
7,280
is there any way for me (end user) to remove it from Apple Business Manger?
No, it has to be done by the administrator of the owner's Business Manager instance. There's no workaround on this.
 

0472967

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Nov 15, 2022
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No, it has to be done by the administrator of the owner's Business Manager instance. There's no workaround on this.
So, whatever we do, once we connect to the internet it can be locked again?
Many thanks again for your help.
 
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